best way to take Kadian

[harbacious]

Hey everyone,

Well the doc just perscribed a new one for me; Kadian. Never even heard of it before today. It's 30mg sustained release morphine in a capsule with about 20 tiny white balls inside of it. I'm sure I could just chew them up, but what would be the best way to do this.

I've also got 20mg oxys, as my doc is trying to see if this new medication will help negate the tolerance i'm building to the oxy. I usually take the stuff legit, but sometimes I just need to feel that rush. sucks being an opiate freak, but i'm sure you know what I mean.

Anyway, i've been on nothing but tramadol (granted about 1.5grams per day) for the last 10 days, so my other receptors are pretty much cleared out. Although I'm sure my Mu Receptor is good and fucked up for a while, I don't wanna rush into the new meds and waste my lowered tolerance. Any suggestions.

Oh, by the way, when I was perusing the pharmacists disclaimer docs on Kadian I saw something I've never noticed before on other opiate meds. Kadian is the first drug I've seen that specifically targets Cimetidine as one of the (avoid these drugs if using this medication), for all you non-potentiators out there, you probably know Cimetidine better as Tagamet, but I'm really surprised to see a potentiating medication listed as something to avoid. By that same line of thinking they should say to avoid Grapefruit Juice and DXM, I mean they all help to do the same thing, right?

[salutaridine]

I have read data that suggests most people can only metabolize around 500 milligrams of tramadol in a given day, and that taking higher doses just ends up being flushed and not metabolized, as it is the metabolite of tramadol that is more potent I believe,the rest of the tramadol isnt even used bya the receptors,you might try taking less tramadol and see if you percieve a real difference. Or try at least taking 500 milligrams at a time and waiting 18 hours..........
At least you have a script for better pain relievers!

[sistermorphine]

i'd never heard of kadian either till it was Rx'd to me - ten 100mg caps/day (till recently the methadone waiting list was 3-5 years here (yeah, why even put the "3" in 3-5??) 4 years ago my body just sorta gave out on me - it wasn't an od - a doc took me on, put me on kadian, and spent 4 months begging the meth dr to take me on...kadian is supposed to be like "extra" sustained release, it's supposed to last a full 24 hours. i've heard non addicts claim it does but it never did for me. i had to go to the pharmacy daily to get my pills and take them infront of the pharmacist - i tried for a while but it work'd like shit so i started mouthing them, palming them and with a bit of trial and error finally figured out how to shoot them. the little beads are the hardest little bastards to bust open - i had to use a mortar and pestol (spelling??) to finally crush them...cold cook, you add any heat to it and it's trash. you think oxy gells up bad, man you should see this. just keep mixing in spoon with unheated h2o and use a decent filter, if it doesn't run clear don't shoot and filter again- i don't know about the 30's but the 100's work'd just fine