Best Drugs For Insomnia/Recreation

[Levity]

I have terrible insomnia; my mind races, I'm never tired at appropriate times, I don't sleep at night, ect. My doctor and I have ruled out parasomnias like nightmares, sleepwalking, and sleeptalking. My sleep apnea is within normal ranges (everyone has sleep apnea, mine is no worse than anyone else's), so that isn't causing the insomnia. I don't have restless leg syndrome either.

I just can't shut my brain off long enough to fall asleep.

So far I've tried... Lunesta, Sonata, Ambien (5mg and 10mg), Ambien CR, Seroquel, Nortrypltine, Estzasolam, and Temazapm. Only the Ambien 10mg and Temazapam 30mg works to any degree of effectiveness, and even then, not very much or very often.

So, I figure maybe you opiated friends o' mine can offer up some suggestions as to goodies to try?

[Curio]

when I was going through a divorce about 15 years ago, I would step up to the bar and ask the guy serving the drinks if I could have 'the equivalent of a large safe' to be dropped on my head....

course I had a lot of blackouts and amnesia during that time period as well, so those would be your trade-offs!

[Babydollangel]

xanax (alrprazalom) will shut your brain AND your memory off.....

[vaxn8]

I am really tough to get to sleep, most of the regular stuff doesn't knock me out but the following 2 did.

First, ambien at a higher dose. I am not positive what the dose was, it was several years ago, but it was rx'd at a higher than normal dose and it worked, i was shocked. I liked it because it didn't have a hangover effect.

Second, amitriptylene. Again, at a very high dose, but it did knock me out. Unfortunately horrible morning after effects - zombie-like!

Third and maybe the best since you haven't tried is chloral hydrate. That's the stuff they are talking about when they "slip someone a Mickey". That is some seriously strong shit! A few times I took way too much and don't have a clue what i did for 3 or 4 days. I definitely didn't show up at work, but i don't remember a thing. At a slightly higher than normal dose it knocked me out for the night. The downside is it tastes horrible. It is a liquid and a nasty one, even mixed with juice as recommended!

[Levity]

Would it be appropriate to ask my (legit) doctor to prescribe Xanax?

Chloral hydrate interfers with liver function and cause liver damage. I damage my liver enough without adding this on top of it.

Amitriptyline (Elavil) probably won't work since Seroquel and Nortrypltine didn't. These drugs are virtually psycho-chemicaly identical.

So I may request some Doggy-Bones, as Xanax is called here. Any other recomendations?

[HeidiW]

I would suggest Halcion for insomnia. It's an excellent benzo. I sure wish Placidyl was still around. I can't find any pharmacy that can get it.

[Babydollangel]

Originally Posted by Levity

Would it be appropriate to ask my (legit) doctor to prescribe Xanax?

Chloral hydrate interfers with liver function and cause liver damage. I damage my liver enough without adding this on top of it.

Amitriptyline (Elavil) probably won't work since Seroquel and Nortrypltine didn't. These drugs are virtually psycho-chemicaly identical.

So I may request some Doggy-Bones, as Xanax is called here. Any other recomendations?

hmm how to request it?? i dunno how to ask for it per say (i have GAD and have to take it to ward off panic attacks)
I do know you can buy them on the streets or if you know the right person ...(disclaimer here : not advocating that just stating facts !)
I DO know that xanax will do the trick for you for sure !! cure that insomnia right up as well as add in amnesia ...lol
try to stick to lowest effective dose of x. though.. lots of bad stuff could happen if you dont... also never drink while taking it.
just gotta think of a way to ask dr for it i guess....maybe say you have a friend whom it has worked wonders for the insomnia and maybe that youd like to try it being that youve already tried other things that he/she prescribed that isnt working..
I hear alot of people talk about ambien and sonata and i have taken both and neither of them help with my insomnia at all. I also have some temazapam (thinkin it has xanax in it) and it doesnt help me like the x. does BUT it might be that its a small dosage thus not effective for me since i take x. regularly anyways.
hope this helps some. If you need help or info on xanax (alprazalom) feel free to pm me as i know this drug WELL. I did lots of research on it while trying to wean myself off of it several months ago..(now im on it again).
anyways, just tryin to help some here.

[chemboy7]

Originally Posted by HeidiW

I would suggest Halcion for insomnia. It's an excellent benzo. I sure wish Placidyl was still around. I can't find any pharmacy that can get it.

If the Temazapam didn't do the trick Halcion wont be of much use.

[Babydollangel]

Originally Posted by HeidiW

I would suggest Halcion for insomnia. It's an excellent benzo. I sure wish Placidyl was still around. I can't find any pharmacy that can get it.

I have heard of halcion but I think it was for some other purpose than anxiety or insomnia ....never heard of placidyl but sure wish there was a way to request some of these meds ( for legit reasons) without sounding like *you know a little too much* (or is that what they call drug seeking behaviour! ha. anyways I have discovered the more educated you appear (and i am one of these that will get prescribed a med and look it up in my pill ref guide as well as online just to find out all i can about it) but the more informed you are the more they act as if you are trying to just get drugs !! pisses me off so much !

[ZodiacKiller]

Originally Posted by Levity

I have terrible insomnia; my mind races, I'm never tired at appropriate times, I don't sleep at night, ect. My doctor and I have ruled out parasomnias like nightmares, sleepwalking, and sleeptalking. My sleep apnea is within normal ranges (everyone has sleep apnea, mine is no worse than anyone else's), so that isn't causing the insomnia. I don't have restless leg syndrome either.

I just can't shut my brain off long enough to fall asleep.

So far I've tried... Lunesta, Sonata, Ambien (5mg and 10mg), Ambien CR, Seroquel, Nortrypltine, Estzasolam, and Temazapm. Only the Ambien 10mg and Temazapam 30mg works to any degree of effectiveness, and even then, not very much or very often.

So, I figure maybe you opiated friends o' mine can offer up some suggestions as to goodies to try?

I'm assuming you only have this problem when you're not opiated, correct? If that's the case, I share your plight. I take Bupe during the week and binge on weekends---no problem sleeping while fuckered up, it's during the week on Subutex that I have the same problem. I'm lucky to get 3 hours a night, and that's usually interrupted.

Since me and the wife have been in the Sub program, the doc had been prescribing benzos, usually Temazepam 30mg, which didn't really help in getting solid sleep, but was great for other WD symptoms such as anxiety. 'Till today, that is---he put us both on a trial-run (7 days worth) of Rozarem, which is something new (I've seen TV commercials). I haven't looked over the info sheet that came with it, or even tried it yet---which I won't do 'till Monday, because today is Friday=Heroin time, yay!

But I will post here to let you know how/if it works. I have a feeling it won't, and even if it does, I'm gonna tell my docc it doesn't, because dammit, I want my benzos!

Anyway, long story short: it's called Rozarem, and that's all I know, sorry...


ZK

[nick]

I just love the names of pills in the US."Better living through chemistry" should be your national motto.

[ZodiacKiller]

Originally Posted by nick

I just love the names of pills in the US."Better living through chemistry" should be your national motto.

That's my personal motto, that's for sure, except for maybe "humans suck" but that's a whole 'nother can of worms, heheh.

But yeah, the names they're coming up with are so fuckin' stupid. My favorite is the one for some bone-strengthening drug called "Bonesta". Who comes up with this shit, I wonder...


ZK

[HeidiW]

Originally Posted by chemboy7

If the Temazapam didn't do the trick Halcion wont be of much use.

Good point. Temazapam is Restoril, correct?

[bronyraur]

Have you tried Trazadone? It's technically an antidepressant, but it is guranteed to knock just about anyone out. The brand name is Desyrel. It worked for me when all the traditional stuff failed. It does have a very slight morning hangover which is dose related (higher the dose=greater the hangover)

[orangejuice]

They prescribe trazadone to alot of addicts that go through treatment centers. I was prescribed 100mg at night for the 30 dayz i was in and it didnt really help me. I have no tolerance to any benzo or sleeping pill for that matter, just coming off alot of methadone. All im sayin is trazadone really didnt help me much. it did however make me tired as fuck real fast, but that didnt last long enough for me to fall asleep. But like i said im doinn a lot of methadone and those fuckin w/ds are the fukkn reaper...