codeine extraction

[Bonnie100]

Hello, I am also new to codeine since I can get it from Canada. I do not have hydrocodone right now but usually only took about 10 - 15 mg's of it. I need to extract the whimpy 8 mg's of codeine. Does anyone know approximatley how many I would need to do for the same hydro effect? I tried 20 pills but that did not seem to do anything. Please let me know. Thank you!!

[Peripat]

Sorry to have to break this to you...

Basically, you are never going to get "the same hydro effect" out of codeine, because codeine is just so much weaker and at levels much above 400mg a time, you're only going to get sick. As in, hurling your guts up sick. And unlike being on stronger opiates, throwing up isn't much fun at all on codeine. l

Playing about with extracting the acetaminophen from those things is more trouble than its worth - that is, if you don't make a habit of taking them, which is a waste of time if you don't have a habit to feed. If you do take them regularly, you run the very large risk of very serious liver damage, even liver failure, given the extremely high doses of acetaminophen you're ingesting there.

[Bonnie100]

Thanks for the info. I actually extracted about 30 of the 8mg. codeine's from CDA. Needless to say, it made my stomach very upset. I though the ace acetaminophen was extracted out? Does quite a bit still stay in the mixture? I did not get the hydro buzz like you said.
Anyway, I just got in a car accident and received the hydro's again from my Doc. (Could have done without the accident!).

[DirtMcGirk]

actually i found the codiene extraction a very good effect at 300mg of it, ive been doing it for a couple of years and have not felt sick once in doing it, codiene is the main drug in tylenal 3s and it is also an opiate, ofcourse hydrocoidone is better but if you want the same effects i would recomend extracting at least 50 pills and make sure the water is ice cold... so 5o pills = 100ml water but i recomend flushing it with another 50-100ml of water to get all the remaining codiene out

[freezen]

i'm new to the forum, although not to opiate use. can you help me out with the specifics of codeine extraction from tylenol?? much appreciated!

[DirtMcGirk]

well it goes like this , goto a pharmacy(canadian) and ask for tylenal 1's(they contain 8mg of codien per pill) now you can get 30, 50 , 100 or 200 capsuls, of course your going to want the 200's not only because theres more but because the price difference between the 100's and 200's is about 3 dollars so it just makes sence.

Now i ve read differnt ways of doing it, but to keep it simple this is my way: I take 80 pills grind em up anyway, if you have no blender or coffee grinder, i somtimes wrap the pills in 2 plastic bags and hit them with a sludge hammer not too hard as you will rip both bags and lose all the good stuff.. any way pour the grinds into a mug,.. now grab your kettle and boil some water, now to measure the amount of water you simply take the number of pills and x2 and thats the amount of ml's of water you use,..

so in this cxase 80x2 =160ml of water now add the hot water and stir, make sure theres no clumps,... put into the freezer and wait a half hour or just before the point of freezing now put a coffe filter into a sperate mug( i tie an elastic at the top so it does not fall in cause that wouldsuck) and pour the mixed solution, now get another 50-100 ml of freezing cold water and flush the filter after it has completed the first filtration, ....... this will be enough for 2 people too get high, or to store some for another day,...

mix with orange juice and enjoy

[Va_va]

WOOOOOOOOOAAAHHH HOLD ON. It is called a cold water extraction for a good reason. KETTLE ARE YOU INSANE ? codeine disintergrates in light and hot temperatures. You need cold water and need to be using around 100ml for 32 tablets and then re extracting the goop with anouther 100ml and using something good for a filter.

[kramorph]

See Kramorph's thread under general chemistry, but I agree anything above 400mg of CP per dose does make you sick and itchy. I am trying to get hold of some pyridine or boron tribromide for the next step!

[Va_va]

Good luck amigo - you will have a hard search.

400mg of codeine phosphate you say ? Apparently the liver can only use 400mg at a time so i tested that theory by having a whole bottle of codeine linctus which was 15mg per 5ml and 600mg in the bottle. I itched so hard i started to bleed. I would not recomend over 400mg as he says id stay in the range of 300mg or get a more potent opiate.

The overdose of codeine is meant to be 800mg ? And yet they say dihydrocodeine is twice as strong but i easily have 480 - 600mg of dihydrocodeine via df118's and obviously i didnt die ? That one gets me confuddled !

[Peripat]

Originally Posted by Va_va

The overdose of codeine is meant to be 800mg ? And yet they say dihydrocodeine is twice as strong but i easily have 480 - 600mg of dihydrocodeine via df118's and obviously i didnt die ? That one gets me confuddled !

"They say", huh? Who exactly are "they"?

Anyway, in pharmaceuticals as in life, Your Mileage May Vary. And different drugs are going to have different effects on different people at different times. In other words, the LD50 of codeine (if indeed this is what you are working from, with that 800mg figure) has very little to do with dosages of dihydrocodeine, especially for persons experienced with opiates.

[Va_va]

I am referring in general to the many sites you will find dosage guides on inc. erowid. You ought to calm down a bit amigo.

Secondly dihydrocodeine and codeine are not comparable in my eyes they are totally diffrent highs while they may be structurally similar. This being codeine is in actual fact low dose morphine once in the body on the other hand dihydrocodeine being converted into dihydromorphone ?

[Va_va]

Cancel that last bit think i was wrong about dihydrocodeine being converted into dihydromorphone - instead i believe its just converted into morphine at a much higher rate.

Someone verify this ?!

[kramorph]

codeine is your "shit leaf" of the opiate world.And as any pot smoker knows it dont matter how much shade leaf you smoke you will never get the stone of sticky potent buds.Codeine is ok when hanging same as leaf.Codeine can be converted to stronger opioids as can leaf be turned into hash. Keep searching this site and links and you will find everything you need to know.