An Idiot With Some IRs

[Levity]

I have access to Morphine IR 15mgs, and, well, I'm just looking for the best way to get the most out of them (with the exception of injection).

I'm half-retarded, so any words of wisdom would be great. Preperation, dosage suggestions, anything.

Thanks guys.

[chemboy7]

Well besides telling you to UTFSE, which I'm sure you weren't looking for, I would say that the next best thing if you don't have injections in you would be anal administration, i.e. plugging, browning, loading the mole hole. Search for either of the first two terms and you will find all the information you need to pull it off. But enemas aint everybodies thing, and if your not willing to take one in the arm I'm guessing you would be uncomfortable taking one in the ass... probably your best bet, to get the most out of them, is to stick to snorting them.

[exitwound]

Stick em up your bum.

Or, crush them, dissolve them in hot water, let cool, and use an oral syringe to "inject" in your ass. This will come on faster. Either method should work, and will absorb more efficiently than oral.

[WarmCyanide]

The administration method chem and EW are referring to is termed "per rectum" in medical circles. it is almost, if not as effective as IV with certain drugs. (especially if a patient is seizuring and giving anticonvulsants IV is impossible) what a pain in the ass it all works out in the end dont worry there's light at the end of the tunnel shitty way to get high etc..
but I really fancy chem's synopsis: loading the mole hole. or EW "inject it in your ass" (another great bumper sticker that could be made. but yeah UTFSE

[chemboy7]

Originally Posted by WarmCyanide

The administration method chem and EW are referring to is termed "per rectum" in medical circles. it is almost, if not as effective as IV with certain drugs. (especially if a patient is seizuring and giving anticonvulsants IV is impossible) what a pain in the ass it all works out in the end dont worry there's light at the end of the tunnel shitty way to get high etc..
but I really fancy chem's synopsis: loading the mole hole. or EW "inject it in your ass" (another great bumper sticker that could be made. but yeah UTFSE

Per Rectum, PR, Loading the mole hole, it's all the same... at the end of the day your still just shoving it up your ass. I would suggest you went with an aquous solution as opposed to just cramming it up there though, much more effective and I would rather have a syringe up my ass then my own finger anyday (if I had to pick). I would say that it would be more comparable to an IM injection then an IV... don't go expecting a great rush from it or anything, just an optimum absorbsion type thing. There are alot more waiting bloodvessels in the mucous membrane in your ass then there are in your nose.

[renton]

if the IR pills are properly filtered are they fairly safe to inject? Anyone here done it a few times and lived to to tell the tale?

[SirDonkeyPunch]

Originally Posted by renton

if the IR pills are properly filtered are they fairly safe to inject? Anyone here done it a few times and lived to to tell the tale?

i iv'd some controlled release ones earlier tonite, but yes i have banged the IR's before, they where 5's i beleive. There was a lot of filler, but to my surprise i didnt need as much as i normally do (milligram wise). Maybe it could be because i got most all of it dissolved in the water, while with the other oc's i sometimes cook em and the wax or whatever traps it. But in any case, ive noticed they work exceptionally well.

[MIVgezzer]

Originally Posted by renton

if the IR pills are properly filtered are they fairly safe to inject? Anyone here done it a few times and lived to to tell the tale?

I get 120 every 2 weeks and shoot almost all of them... I get the 30 mg
It hasen't killied me yet and been doing it for years...

Have a great day

MIV G

[Levity]

Thanks for all the sage words of wisdom. I'm going to try both snorting and plugging next time I'm hooked up.

As for preperation is it best to just grind up the pills using the ole mortar and pestel method? From there I imagine it's just as easy as chopping up a line for snorting or mixing with some filtered water for plugging.

As for dosage, my tolerance is quite low; 40mgs of hydrocodone sends me up pretty well. Is two pills (30mg) a good starting point? Higher? Lower?

What about potenators? I assume because digestion is being bypassed, grape fruit and tagament is useless here. Anything else I could use (benzos or hydro wise) to better the experiance?

Finally, needles are out of the question because I'm deathy scared of them. What can I say? Deep down I'm a scared little girl.

Thanks again eveyone.

[chemboy7]

O.K. Levity... didn't think you would be down for riding the brown train. Alot of IV user's even look down on it, I just assumed you would have some hold ups. I wouldn't even mess with snorting them if you can get over the weirdness of shoving something up your ass (I believe this is worse in straight males then anyone). If you want the most effective way to brown them look to this thread:

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthrea...light=browning

As for dosing, I would go with the same amount I was used to snorting (and expect to get alot higher)... I am assuming that was your original route of administration, maybe not. Either way, if your just used to using them orally or intranasally, I would say to use your regular dose and expect greater results. I am of course a hedonist at heart though, and would suggest that on the side of err you may want to slightly reduce (if not cut in half) the normal dosage if your regular route of administration is orally.

[Zoop]

I injected MSIR capsules a while back. These particular ones were made by the same company that makes MS Contin and Oxycontin (this was actually before oxycontin even came out!), and these MSIR caps were full of little red beads. the shit would dissolve, but it produced a very (VERY) red solution. When injected, there was so much dye in there (it is tartrazine, I think), that I got a bad flushing reaction from it. I had injected similar doses of H, morphine from other pharms and never got that same effect, so I am sure it was from all that red dye.

Are the ones you got "MSIR" and are they filled with red beads. In that case I wouldn't snort or inject them, just brown 'em.

OBTW, what's UTFSE? I gots ta know!

[chemboy7]

Originally Posted by Zoop

OBTW, what's UTFSE? I gots ta know!

Zoop, it's good to see you around brother... you stay away way too long. UTFSE (use the fucking search engine) - A common reply to questions that get brought up in threads that have been answered already numerous times and could have been solved by a simple use of the search engine. Alot of people get P.O.'ed about this sort of thing and reply with that, I atleast answered the question and hoped at pointing him at the plethora of information available via Opiophiles search engine before his thread was derailed into nothing but UTFSE.

[renton]

I find a brown method produces a nice warm high so that's why I almost always use it. But snorting morph or oxy is more intense fast high for some reason but it doesent last aslong. So if you got no problem shoving crap up your nose give pluging a try, you got nothing to lose except some decency lol.

[Levity]

Chemboy - thank you a ton for directing me to the link. I'm just anti-needle becauseI'm scared of them. It comes from a lot of hospital time with inept nurses trying to find my viens.

I'm going to try anal administration this weekend. I'll post my results.

[shaunclo]

Originally Posted by Levity

Finally, needles are out of the question because I'm deathy scared of them. What can I say? Deep down I'm a scared little girl.

Thanks again eveyone.

You know what Levity, dont even for one second think that being scared of needles makes you a "scared little girl" as you put it, I guarantee you it will pay of in the long run because of it. Be very fuckin happy that you are never going to stick yourself, cause I doubt you want to go that far down the rabbitt hole.