hydroxyzine as a potentiator

mess4opana · 12-29-2009, 10:58 PM

I utmfse, but i didn't get any info relevant, so I began a new threat. (nod of approval)

ok
I want to know how well hydroxyzine works as a potentiator say as compared to diphenhydramine.

I will search for more info on benadryl used iv, but I wanted to know if hydroxyzine can be used iv, and if it is possible/ beneficial - how may i prepare the capsules i have for 'safer' iv use?

anyone?

JonnyMohawk · 12-29-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mess4opana

I want to know how well hydroxyzine works as a potentiator say as compared to diphenhydramine.

It works a little better in my opinion then benadryl, although they don't technically increase the absorption, they do add to the sedation and overall 'nodding out' feeling.

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Originally Posted by mess4opana

I will search for more info on benadryl used iv, but I wanted to know if hydroxyzine can be used iv, and if it is possible/ beneficial - how may i prepare the capsules i have for 'safer' iv use?

Pills should really never be injected without using a wheel filter but I know some people just won't/can't go to that length, hydroxyzine has a high enough oral bioavailability you will be safer just eating it.

If you do decide to shoot it for some reason please filter it multiple times.

Paregoric Kid · 12-30-2009, 01:55 AM

well it might increase it through CYP2D6 enzyme inhibiting. it definitely beats benadryl. its the only antihistamine I can think of that is also prescribed for anxiety. hydroxyzine is great with methadone and when in wd. its related to cyclizine and meclizine and all three are often prescribed to boost opioid effects. never used it IV, only orally. probably best just to swallow it 20 mins before injecting the opioid.

Uncle Wiggly · 12-30-2009, 02:17 AM

Back when hospitals were regularly dispensing Demerol they would almost always mix it with Vistaril. I'm not sure about it's use as a potentiator but, as PK says, it definitely has sedative qualities.

I've had many injections of Demerol/Vistaril and a few of plain Demerol. Vistaril really goes a long way to help the overall effect.

Larry · 12-30-2009, 04:57 AM

Is it pretty hard to get prescribed Hydroxyzine? What else is it often rx for besides anxiety? Ive always heard good things about this stuff in regards to boosting opiates

Billy the kid · 12-30-2009, 06:02 AM

Its actually super easy to get. I usually just get them by saying its the only thing that helps my nausea. In regards to anxiety, most docs would LOVE it if you asked for these rather than xanax!

Larry · 12-30-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy the kid

Its actually super easy to get. I usually just get them by saying its the only thing that helps my nausea. In regards to anxiety, most docs would LOVE it if you asked for these rather than xanax!

Is there lots of alternatives to Hydroxyzine if you were to ask for something for nausea? What Im asking is would you have to specifically ask for this med if you complained about nausea or is it one of the more popular meds prescribed for nausea?

DCBA · 12-30-2009, 07:06 AM

It's the BEST POTENTIATOR THERE IS!

If you are a legit user for pain you can lower your opiate dose in about 35% to 50% and it will be equal!

And its the best detox i know for benzos!

If this would be OTC it would be the number one cut for heroin.... After a CWE you would get a product that if you mixed with heroin you would have a greater rush when compared to just injecting that heroin.. and greater potency too.. but more sedation as well..
In my past life i used heroin by IVing it, in that life i've done CWEs of it and used about 12.5mg to 50mgs of hydroxyzine mixed with my iv heroin and i can say WOW!!! The rush was way more powerfull than heroin alone... Never tried Diconal but i understand how the addiction of an antihistamine to IV opiates can be a greater rush.... Hydroxyzine IVed with opiates is indeed a great rush..
But like other things it grew a tolerance to it and soon after it lost its interest.. but it does boost opiates a lot!!! specially if mixed in the same IV solution..

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Originally Posted by Larry

Is there lots of alternatives to Hydroxyzine if you were to ask for something for nausea? What Im asking is would you have to specifically ask for this med if you complained about nausea or is it one of the more popular meds prescribed for nausea?

You can ask it for anxiety... Saying you dont want any addictive meds like benzos or SSRIs and that you know that hydroxyzine works well for you without geting you addicted..

Larry · 12-30-2009, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCBA

It's the BEST POTENTIATOR THERE IS!

If you are a legit user for pain you can lower your opiate dose in about 35% to 50% and it will be equal!

And its the best detox i know for benzos!

If this would be OTC it would be the number one cut for heroin.... After a CWE you would get a product that if you mixed with heroin you would have a greater rush when compared to just injecting that heroin.. and greater potency too.. but more sedation as well..
In my past life i used heroin by IVing it, in that life i've done CWEs of it and used about 12.5mg to 50mgs of hydroxyzine mixed with my iv heroin and i can say WOW!!! The rush was way more powerfull than heroin alone... Never tried Diconal but i understand how the addiction of an antihistamine to IV opiates can be a greater rush.... Hydroxyzine IVed with opiates is indeed a great rush..
But like other things it grew a tolerance to it and soon after it lost its interest.. but it does boost opiates a lot!!! specially if mixed in the same IV solution..

You can ask it for anxiety... Saying you dont want any addictive meds like benzos or SSRIs and that you know that hydroxyzine works well for you without geting you addicted..

Right now I get a benzo for anxiety, but I was planning on asking for something for nausea before I even heard of hydroxyzine... Im gonna research it little bit more. Does anyone know if this stuff is one of the primary drugs given when requesting medicine for nausea?

DCBA · 12-30-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry

Right now I get a benzo for anxiety, but I was planning on asking for something for nausea before I even heard of hydroxyzine... Im gonna research it little bit more. Does anyone know if this stuff is one of the primary drugs given when requesting medicine for nausea?

no, the usual antihistamines are promethazine and drammamine (almost the same as dyphenhydramine)

mess4opana · 12-30-2009, 12:17 PM

you guys rock, and yeah i dont think this will go in my veins.
i am rx'd for anxiety and ive always used it as a potentiator but you know how the brain can trick you.

i cud prolly ask for a benzo. but that really seems like opening another world of pain

you could prolly get it like was said before - you want a anti-anxiety medicine that is non-addictive

thanks again

at&t · 12-30-2009, 02:54 PM

Yeah.... thats some pretty useful/interesting information there, [ EDIT: ladies and ] gentlemen... Thanks a lot from me too! -at&t

blackwrx · 12-31-2009, 02:21 PM

easiest way to get hydroxyzine: tell the doc you keep getting hives.

Paregoric Kid · 12-31-2009, 07:01 PM

I'd just ask for hydroxyzine for sleep or anxiety since its non-addictive. if you just say you have hives or allergies you might just get promethazine or some other antihistamine, not that promethazine isn't good for potentiating too but if you are trying to get hydroxyzine it would be easier to just ask for it, say you were given it before or something.

Poppylvr · 01-06-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry

Right now I get a benzo for anxiety, but I was planning on asking for something for nausea before I even heard of hydroxyzine... Im gonna research it little bit more. Does anyone know if this stuff is one of the primary drugs given when requesting medicine for nausea?

Larry - we don't use hydroxyzine (Vistaril) for nausea at my hospital. The usual drugs for nausea are promethazine (Phenergan, related to thorazine) and Zofran (ondestron ??sp).
We use hydroxyzine for anxiety in people we don't want to give benzos to. It works quite well for some people and ~~ for others. It IS and excellent opiate potenitator.
Tell your doc "my auntie Rose gave me some when I was all shook up at uncle Harvey's death and it worked great".

12-29-2009, 10:58 PM	#1
mess4opana Occasionally Opiated Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: East Bay Cali-forn-i-a Posts: 54	hydroxyzine as a potentiator I utmfse, but i didn't get any info relevant, so I began a new threat. (nod of approval) ok I want to know how well hydroxyzine works as a potentiator say as compared to diphenhydramine. I will search for more info on benadryl used iv, but I wanted to know if hydroxyzine can be used iv, and if it is possible/ beneficial - how may i prepare the capsules i have for 'safer' iv use? anyone?

12-30-2009, 01:55 AM	#3
Paregoric Kid Never Looked Back Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,385	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator well it might increase it through CYP2D6 enzyme inhibiting. it definitely beats benadryl. its the only antihistamine I can think of that is also prescribed for anxiety. hydroxyzine is great with methadone and when in wd. its related to cyclizine and meclizine and all three are often prescribed to boost opioid effects. never used it IV, only orally. probably best just to swallow it 20 mins before injecting the opioid. __________________ "The magnitude of pleasure reaches its limit in the removal of all pain. When such pleasure is present, so long as it is uninterrupted, there is no pain either of body or of mind or of both together." -Epicurus Sign the Petition to Urge the PA General Assembly to Oppose the Methadone Accountability Package The Sick Life \| OpioWiki \| AllYourSpeechAreBelongToUs.tk \| The Hasheesh Eater http://lp.org http://www.campaignforliberty.com/ Sign the Petition to Urge the Pennsylvania General Assembly to Pass the Compassionate Use Medical Marijuana Act

12-30-2009, 02:17 AM	#4
Uncle Wiggly BONE DADDY MODERATOR SUPER FUCKING SOLID GOLD MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: You Can't Get There From Here. Posts: 2,780	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator Back when hospitals were regularly dispensing Demerol they would almost always mix it with Vistaril. I'm not sure about it's use as a potentiator but, as PK says, it definitely has sedative qualities. I've had many injections of Demerol/Vistaril and a few of plain Demerol. Vistaril really goes a long way to help the overall effect. __________________ Tiptoes in silence 'round my bed, And quiets the raindrops overhead. With her everlasting smile, She stills my fever for awhile. Oh Nursie dear I'm glad you're here, To brush away my pain. ~Jethro Tull~

12-30-2009, 04:57 AM	#5
Larry Opiophile Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 754	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator Is it pretty hard to get prescribed Hydroxyzine? What else is it often rx for besides anxiety? Ive always heard good things about this stuff in regards to boosting opiates

12-30-2009, 06:02 AM	#6
Billy the kid Jr. Opiophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 503	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator Its actually super easy to get. I usually just get them by saying its the only thing that helps my nausea. In regards to anxiety, most docs would LOVE it if you asked for these rather than xanax!

12-30-2009, 12:17 PM	#11
mess4opana Occasionally Opiated Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: East Bay Cali-forn-i-a Posts: 54	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator you guys rock, and yeah i dont think this will go in my veins. i am rx'd for anxiety and ive always used it as a potentiator but you know how the brain can trick you. i cud prolly ask for a benzo. but that really seems like opening another world of pain you could prolly get it like was said before - you want a anti-anxiety medicine that is non-addictive thanks again

12-30-2009, 02:54 PM	#12
at&t Junky Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 348	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator Yeah.... thats some pretty useful/interesting information there, [ EDIT: ladies and ] gentlemen... Thanks a lot from me too! -at&t

12-31-2009, 02:21 PM	#13
blackwrx Occasionally Opiated Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California Posts: 88	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator easiest way to get hydroxyzine: tell the doc you keep getting hives.

12-31-2009, 07:01 PM	#14
Paregoric Kid Never Looked Back Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,385	Re: hydroxyzine as a potentiator I'd just ask for hydroxyzine for sleep or anxiety since its non-addictive. if you just say you have hives or allergies you might just get promethazine or some other antihistamine, not that promethazine isn't good for potentiating too but if you are trying to get hydroxyzine it would be easier to just ask for it, say you were given it before or something. __________________ "The magnitude of pleasure reaches its limit in the removal of all pain. When such pleasure is present, so long as it is uninterrupted, there is no pain either of body or of mind or of both together." -Epicurus Sign the Petition to Urge the PA General Assembly to Oppose the Methadone Accountability Package The Sick Life \| OpioWiki \| AllYourSpeechAreBelongToUs.tk \| The Hasheesh Eater http://lp.org http://www.campaignforliberty.com/ Sign the Petition to Urge the Pennsylvania General Assembly to Pass the Compassionate Use Medical Marijuana Act

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