80mgHCD/20mgDXM SR

[panda]

ok well, in my intro thread people seemed a bit interested in my compound meds. they are not very common nor talked about online. actually i have seen people fight till there death, saying that they do not make any kind of hydro over 10mg's. i get scripted 90 of 80mg hydro over 20mg DXM SR a month, on top of 15mg oxy ir for BT.

They get delivered to me from the pharmacy, you can Not pick them up. i guess it is some sort of weird rule. they come in a sealed foil pack and inside they are in a bubble sheet. mine are all white caps with no marking's at all. now, i have seen 80mg hydro over 200mg apap, and they were slightly bigger and pink. actually i have seen 10mg all they way to 100mg. maybe i should make a chart with pill strength and color, to help people out who stumble across these?

My pm doc told me the DXM helped with tolerance and to make the hydro work better. i am not to sure if that is true. i open the caps up and dump them down, as soon as they hit water they gel up like no other. i think their is no way to beat the time release in them. i wish i could. also they just don't seem to feel like 80mg's to me, i dunno maybe it is because of the time release?

lastly, the reason why my med is not oxycontin or some other ER is because the pm has a "no oxy" policy, i have a great pcp that gives me the oxy ir. at the clinic, its either the 80mg hydro or 30mg msContin, and the hydro seems to work better for pain. as i use these for pain not pleasure. when i was getting high, i would of got something else.

any questions you may have feel free to ask. also, i have had 3 different people tell me, that a few people at the clinic get 500mg hydro! i didn't believe the first person, actually the second either, but when my uncle told me, i am really wondering. considering non of the 3 people know each other, and my uncle said he seen the script.

[Dr.G]

So you have been prescribed 80mg extended-release hydrocodone? No acetaminophen? I've seen many, many pills, and they tell us solo hydrocodone is not available. If you can put up pic, that would be great. I understand if you don't want to, as I probably wouldn't even bother. As for DXM, dextromethorphan potentates the hydrocodone to make it more "effective".

[panda]

i don't have a camera right now, but i am buying one on the weekend. ill take some pictures then. there is not really much to see, just white capsules with no markings. i should be able to get a picture of them in the bubble package. i just got to chop out some of the personal info.

[DCBA]

Those aren't comercial pills of hydro, they are costumed made for you! You can even get cocaine on costum made pills... Its the pharmacy that makes them so as long as its legal they can make it as long as you got a prescription for them.

[Dr.G]

Thought so. Stamped hydrocodone bitartrate.

[panda]

Originally Posted by DCBA

Those aren't comercial pills of hydro, they are costumed made for you! You can even get cocaine on costum made pills... Its the pharmacy that makes them so as long as its legal they can make it as long as you got a prescription for them.

yea, i know the pharmacy compounds them. a lot of people do not know about this though..

[panda]

ok, i got a pic of a few capsules compared to a nickle(its a buffalo nickle, same size though). the pic aint the greatest, but i just got this camera a few hours ago and am still learning how to use it. it's a good cam, just real high-tech, with touch screen and all. i will get some pics of my capsules in the blister pack, that says 80mg hydro on it, when i figure out how to get close up detailed pics. this way you can actually read it!

[Billy the kid]

Actually even here in the U.S. you can get just about any strength of any med in any combination at a compounding pharmacy. This goes for pills and injectables. What surprises me is that they actually gel up! Single combos of narcotics are almost always schedule 2 even with meds like hydrocodone and codeine that are normally multi entity products. Even many walgreens do compounding especially the 24hr ones.

I dont think the color coating of the pills would be much help because from my understanding most compounding pharmacies identify things differently.

[panda]

Originally Posted by Billy the kid

Actually even here in the U.S. you can get just about any strength of any med in any combination at a compounding pharmacy. This goes for pills and injectables. What surprises me is that they actually gel up! Single combos of narcotics are almost always schedule 2 even with meds like hydrocodone and codeine that are normally multi entity products. Even many walgreens do compounding especially the 24hr ones.

I dont think the color coating of the pills would be much help because from my understanding most compounding pharmacies identify things differently.

true, but imo they should. i remember the first time i got one. it happened so quick i forgot to ask what mg it was! then the guy wouldn't answer his phone. it was pink, my friend told me he had the same size and color capsule and it was 5mg. at the time i had a low tolerance, so i figured 5mgs, take 6. right before i went to take them, the guy called me back. and told me they were 60mg, but ER. he told me if i usually take 30mg's take a whole one. he was right i was good for 10 hours. 6 would of killed me!

to some one just starting out, an opie with no markings, that could potentially be strong is dangerous. i know they shouldn't be abused, but no matter what they still will be..

[U4IC1]

Thats crazy! I have never heard of anything like this. So basically you are saying that the pharmacy is essentially custom making your pills? I have seen and heard of alot of stuff, but never this. I am in pain management and am currently on just oxy for bt pain. I am going to talk to the doc about getting something that is time released also and would love to get some of that ER hydro. How in the world would I bring that up to him. I am so fascinated!

[panda]

Originally Posted by U4IC1

Thats crazy! I have never heard of anything like this. So basically you are saying that the pharmacy is essentially custom making your pills? I have seen and heard of alot of stuff, but never this. I am in pain management and am currently on just oxy for bt pain. I am going to talk to the doc about getting something that is time released also and would love to get some of that ER hydro. How in the world would I bring that up to him. I am so fascinated!

i don't know, maybe tell him that hydro has always worked better but you are afraid of long term use of apap. so you researched on-line and seen that these can be made, and can be made in any mg. you could probably get like a 69mg if your doctor wrote it lol. all i know is, they usually do not write for this. as oxy is stronger it just seems more reasonable then making a pill. i don't even understand why this pm does this. and its either this or morphine.

only 2 pharmacy's in the pittsburgh area, make them. the one is actually in the same town as i am in. the other pharmacy that makes them, uses a colored powder! for instance, i got some 40mg ones back in the day, they were orange and the powder was tinted orange. there is also a few on-line pharmacies that will make them if you have a script.

now, if you want to get high, i do NOT recommend them. i have yet to find a way to break the time release. i open up the capsules and dump them down, as soon as they hit liquid they gel up. i know some people that mix them with tea, and they say that breaks the time release, but i dunno. i am sure there is a way, but i just don't have the urge to get high. as for pain relief these are great, one of the best things i have ever taken, and back in my "using" days, i tried pretty much everything.

[upstate_007]

The one way I can think of to break the time release would be to dump the powder in water and let it sit for 12-24 hours. That should release all the medicine over that time.

Worth a try at least.

[U4IC1]

Well that is truly fascinating. I would love to try it, but I dont have the balls to ask my doc about it. Thanks for sharing this info. Just another thing for me to dream about.

[bronyraur]

I used to take custom-compounded a hydrocodone product before I went on morphine and oxycodone.

It came from a compounding pharmacy, which delivered to your home (you couldn't pick them up, just like the OP). Mine were 20mg SR capsules, and they worked well, it just got to the point where they weren't providing enough relief, so up the opiate ladder I went.

[panda]

Originally Posted by bronyraur

I used to take custom-compounded a hydrocodone product before I went on morphine and oxycodone.

It came from a compounding pharmacy, which delivered to your home (you couldn't pick them up, just like the OP). Mine were 20mg SR capsules, and they worked well, it just got to the point where they weren't providing enough relief, so up the opiate ladder I went.

did they have DXM or anything mixed with them? i had 20mg ones, i think they were white and green.