Dope headaches??

[AkPhile]

Well, up here in AK we have some bomb tar, people were fallin out last night off of a tenth. Regardless each one cost 50 bucks but whatever. So I get ahold of this stuff after this chick falls out, and i do my normal shot and im like damn, so i got the other half saved for later. So i get home, do the other shot, and a few hours later im noddin in bed and i get these rediculous headaches, like my brains being split in half. ive still got one and was wondering if anyone knew how that happens? ive been reading this site for a while and im pretty sure the cut isnt too bad, so if anyone knows how this happens let me know=]

[Thai_Stick]

You say "a few hours later". Clarify the timeline here. You were nodding hours after shooting? Or a few hours after the shot, when the nodding ceased, the headache developed? You say you still have it... When did it start, does it always last the same amount of time? Does it only happen with the dope you just got?

It isn't uncommon to get sick after a large dose of an opiate, people refer to it as an "opiate hangover". As far as I am aware the mechanism at work here is just immediate w/d. This is only the case if your headache is developing soon after they opiates wear off, though.

If it comes with the shot I would suspect that it's from the cut.

Anyways, with some more details I could give a more clear answer.

[Larry]

Ive experienced a similar feeling as you it happen afew hours after I took a boatload of methadone after I was wearing a patch ending up nodding out and waking up afew hours later with a massive headache, had to of been a mild overdose

[KoDeInaaaae]

I heard opiates increase cranial pressure that's why they don't really prescribe it for head injurys like a concussion..could this be a posibillity?

[GimpLeg]

I've gotten those the day after doing a big dose of morphine. morphine also makes me throw up in the morning.

[TheHerronDiaries]

the next day after a night of a lottt of use...dope hanger is worse than booze IMO.

[animalpharm]

I think I can safely say that this has never happened to me as a result of a true opiate. I can see it happening with synthetics though, I believe I've gotten this response as a result of Ultram, and occasionally if I take too much Kratom.
But I'm an east coaster and never encountered tar, perhaps it was something to do with the manufacturing - too much acetyl maybe?
It's interesting that you say that it was pretty good stuff, too...

[Saint]

I also used to get a headache after doing a (relative) lot of dope (say 1 gram within 12 hours and after not having used anything except for a low dose of done for months). Symptoms were: dry mouth, bloathed stomach and a continuous *pressure*headache for at least half a day.
Guess I was too greedy.. Happened with bad quality dope but also with the good stuff (however, symptoms were less intense after using *good* stuff).

[GimpLeg]

I would think the opiate would cancel out the pain of a headache. guess I'm wrong.

[RxQueen]

Originally Posted by KoDeInaaaae

I heard opiates increase cranial pressure that's why they don't really prescribe it for head injurys like a concussion..could this be a posibillity?

this is true, and what i'm inclined to think this was.

[euphoricontin17]

I have had the same thing happen to me numerous times after high doses of opiates. Excuciating headaches, so bad I could hardly walk or see. Only after my good buddy more-feen enlightened me did I figure this out.

It makes perfect sense too, example- AK is raving about how good his dope was and I know personally after any extremely-high dose opiate session that I've had, I usually wake up in the middle of the night after nodding off with the most extremely unbearably painful headaches.

Drumroll please, what's causing this is oxygen deprivation to your brain. The unusually high doses/good dope causes a higher amount of respretory depression which when maintained for a long period of time I.E. nodding out/sleeping causes a lot less oxygen to get to your brain than normal. The pain you experience is a result of your brain being deprived of adequate amount of oxygen. The next step is dying, luckily the pain usually signals one to wake the fuck up and BREATH! hope this helps, was a fucking revelation to me, I couldn't figure out what caused it for so long.

[GimpLeg]

got some proof to back that up? while it could be true, I just don't see how that could happen.

[Larkin]

Originally Posted by euphoricontin17

I have had the same thing happen to me numerous times after high doses of opiates. Excuciating headaches, so bad I could hardly walk or see. Only after my good buddy more-feen enlightened me did I figure this out.

It makes perfect sense too, example- AK is raving about how good his dope was and I know personally after any extremely-high dose opiate session that I've had, I usually wake up in the middle of the night after nodding off with the most extremely unbearably painful headaches.

Drumroll please, what's causing this is oxygen deprivation to your brain. The unusually high doses/good dope causes a higher amount of respretory depression which when maintained for a long period of time I.E. nodding out/sleeping causes a lot less oxygen to get to your brain than normal. The pain you experience is a result of your brain being deprived of adequate amount of oxygen. The next step is dying, luckily the pain usually signals one to wake the fuck up and BREATH! hope this helps, was a fucking revelation to me, I couldn't figure out what caused it for so long.

I'll buy that. Maybe dehydration too? I get headaches with stims a lot, which i was led to beleive was from dehydration.

[euphoricontin17]

Yeah, man just read this and see if it does not make sense. I didn't just think this shit up, I just put together the factors and this is what it came to.

When one takes their normal dope/opiate dose, they get feeling good but not to fucked up. AKphile specifically said that his was some bomb dope and he was falling out and such, also this only happens to me and I've heard a few others say too, when they do high doses/potent dope. This increase in the opiate level be it more oxy, stronger heroin ( increased purity) causes a higher degree of respritory depression. Once tolerant to our usual dose as most of us ( at least addicts) are, we do not experience very much resp. depression, BUT when we occasionally get some extraordinary dope or do more than our usual dose to a great degree (read: get really fucked up) we tend to nodd off/fall asleep. While sleeping/nodded we do not have concious control of our breathing rate, our brains simply do it. However, since the increase is respritory depression has occured from the higher dose/increased effect, our normal breathing rate is substantially slowed down along with shallower breaths. Since we are asleep, we have no way of knowing this being as sedated as we are from the opiates themselves. Over time, the brain becomes deprived of oxygen from not getting the normal amount of air it usually dose when we are breathing normally. This in turn causes the pain associated with oxygen deprivation and asphyxiation. If you really do to much, the pain won't be enough to wake you up, luckily in these cases it does.

If you don't believe me just google suffocation symptoms/oxygen deprivation. If you still don't believe me just hold your breath and squeeze your cartoroid arteries for a few seconds, you will begin to pass out and find your have some nasty pain in your head. That's the lack of oxygen. Ever hear of the " choking game " kids use to play? On the news they said the kids would complain of headaches, another good example of how oxygen deprivation causes this, see how it all fits? We all know opiates make your breathing rate slow, this just puts it all together.

[euphoricontin17]

Oh and just to clear this up. I am not saying that anytime your do dope or an opiate and get a headache that this is what's causing it. It could very well be cut or something else. What this applies to is IF your are doing large amounts or larger than your are use to, you fall asleep/nod out and wake up with a HORRIBLE not just any headache, I mean those who have had them can testify, it's close to the worst pain I've ever felt, than theres a good chance this is what happened. It just seems like with what AKphile described, that this scenario fit.