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Old 12-06-2009, 02:00 AM   #1
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Default DId something stupid tonight

Had a horrible night, so i decided to down 20 x 2mg XANAX

Ive read its very very hard to overdose on xanax the only symptoms I have is Im extremely cold

Please be smart and dont do anything stupid like this

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Old 12-06-2009, 02:38 AM   #2
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Default Re: DId something stupid tonight

Hey Larry, yeah that doesn't sound like the wisest choice.
not all that familiar with Xanax, any Idea what the equal to in Valium?
any desire to discuss the horrible night?
IDK -maybe fell better talking about it?
also wondering if you have a tolerance to benzos in generally

sorry- I know some kind of DUMB questions hey?

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Old 12-06-2009, 03:42 AM   #3
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Default Re: DId something stupid tonight

According to this chart (once posted here by Mollywhopped) 2 mg of xanax would equal 20 mgs of valium.. (times 20=400 mgs of valium! I wouldn't have woken up for sure, let alone be able to type this).
Anyone know if this chart is correct, more or less?

http://meds.queensu.ca/~clpsych/orie...on%20chart.pdf

What happened that it was such a lousy night if you care to share?
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:45 AM   #4
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Had a horrible night, so i decided to down 20 x 2mg XANAX

Ive read its very very hard to overdose on xanax the only symptoms I have is Im extremely cold

Please be smart and dont do anything stupid like this

Lar

You'll be fine, worst that will happen is you'll pass out and fall asleep. The LD50 for benzos is so high that it would be virtually impossible to die from an OD of benzos alone. Throw opies/alcohol into the mix and the odds are not in your favour.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:51 AM   #5
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Ya Saint thats on the low end some charts put 2mg xanax anywhere between 20 - 40mg of valium. I have a huge benzo tolerance well 10mg valium tid also 2mg xanax tid along with
130mg. done - MMT. It is really tough to od on xanax alone normally you just fall asleep. Ive
read you can od on valium though. Not sure the diff. Good luck lar know you've had a tough coupla days, hang in there.
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:07 AM   #6
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According to this chart (once posted here by Mollywhopped) 2 mg of xanax would equal 20 mgs of valium.. (times 20=400 mgs of valium! I wouldn't have woken up for sure, let alone be able to type this).
Anyone know if this chart is correct, more or less?

http://meds.queensu.ca/~clpsych/orie...on%20chart.pdf

What happened that it was such a lousy night if you care to share?
Morning Saint- interesting, since I posted that- I goggle a variety of equalize charts, seems like well 4 out of 10 agree with the cart Mollywhopped posted, the other 6 are giving -
.5mg Xanax = 10mg Valium

so IDK this could be anywhere from 400- 800mg doses according to the sourced charts,
It is just Valium that I am scripted for sleep/muscle spams issues so much more familiar with.
That is just a hell of a lot of benzo in my book, I try really hard to not pick a benzo habit.
skip night , rotated meds etc. and 10mg still after a few years gives me quality sleep.

I'm wondering if Medical community has an AGREED answer on = charts
or if the shorter term duration vs. long term duration of Valium is the issue for difference?
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:19 AM   #7
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Default Re: DId something stupid tonight

Larry, Larry, Larry...
What's been going on dude? I feel as though u r in a rough "space" right now. I hope all is well and u had a really nice long sleep last night. Please give us a "hello" and let us know everything is A.ok

What the hell prompted u 2 do this??? Dont let the small shit in life getcha down. Im here if you ever need a listening ear.

BE SAFE!!
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:31 AM   #8
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Wow dude, so you essentially took 20 bars? Man, I don't think I'd even be able to type with that much Xanax in me... I take 1 mg, and I'm pretty good. Anything more and I'm out cold.

Of course, if you've got a decent tolerance I can see how the worst you're feeling is cold... if you don't have a tolerance, then I truly hope you're alright. I say this because personally, I can take enough opiates to kill an elephant - and still want more, but a little too much Xanax in the system, and I'm blacking out and wondering wtf I did the night before.

Hope everything's ok with you, and whatever it is that made you do this/feel this way, please keep in mind that there are much better ways to solve your problems than hurting yourself (if that's what you were/are trying to do)... and they don't necessarily need to end in a trip to the ER, jail, or god forbid the morgue. Best wishes and please be careful in the future.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:45 AM   #9
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If he doesn't live with anyone, and they didn't take him to the hospital when they saw an unresponsive larry, then he'll probably be awhile before coming back/waking. When I was going through a rough spot a few years ago, in a few instances I ate whole bottles of 2mg xanax, and I'd always be out for a day or two. If not completely passed out-then completely out of it blackout fucked up.

Come back when you're ready and talk to us, larry. I hate seeing people suffer, and I just get a feeling of suffering from your posts as of late. If it's just the missing pills you had that other thread about, that's no reason to try anything like this. There are always options man. And there'll alays be someone on the net to talk with.....sad as I feel saying this, netfolks have helped me out of some tough jams before man-so if you need someone to talk to-just ask.

Hope you're nicely conked out and wake up feeling refreshed mang. Be easy.
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Pop into the men's, brush your teeth, go to your bedroom and hang a "please do not disturb" sign on the door, get comfortable and then we'll see you in two days. Do this soon before you forget.

Sleep tight, Lar.

(but why 20 of 'em?, sheesh)
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LARRY!

the thing that scares me most is that you havent checked back in yet on this thread. Hpefully you're just taking a nice, long, nap!

in the future - come to us and tell us about the night before you make a decision like that. Even ith your tolerance that is A LOT of XANAX
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man unless youre a benzo addict, you dont pop that kinda amount if everythings a-ok and you're just tryin to chill a bit, but if you were flat tryin to off yer shit, akie and opies would be in the picture for sure... we've all kinda tested the waters when shits bad right?

dont wanna put words in an unconscious man's mouth tho, hopefully he wakes up from a deep sleep with a profound realization about the permanence of death and shit.
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I'm sorry Larry.

Would this benzo expedition have anything to do with you losing your pills the other night?
Did you wanna make up for the loss?

Well, have a nice nap!
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Damn man. I've had a couple experiences with benzos in ridiculous doses, and I generally ended up puking and feelin Terrible. Never took THAT much tho. It's worse with klonopins than Xanax tho, cause the kpins last so long. Last time this happened I took 10-12 mgs of kpin, and blacked out for two days then "greyed out" for another three, and lost my job somewhere in there. I have no tolerance cause I really dislike benzos and rarely take em. Problem is when I do take and the pills I took kick in, I go crazy and gobble my whole stash.
Bleh, give me opiates ANY day over that stuff. I'm positive that he'll be fine, unless he took something else with them. Careful Larry, this is no way to handle yer problems.
Time to grow up and learn how to handle this shit intelligently (harsh but true, unless you were actualy tryin to end it all, in which case getting some help goes a long way). Good luck.
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Default Re: DId something stupid tonight

Larry:
not to condone such excesses
but i have done worse
with all manner of benzo

long as opiates or alcohol
are coadministered
you should be fine
maybe sleepy, blackedout
wakeup in jail
but fatal benzo only ODs
are rare IME...

be easy, eh?
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