snorting subs long term

weathereporter · 11-28-2009, 01:16 AM

hey peeps.

I snort my subs. Although i only snort 2 mgs at the moment, i have been snorting them for months. Has anyone in a similar position gotten any adverse side effects, such as sinus problems.

thanks
wr

Indy · 11-28-2009, 02:39 AM

Sometimes my nose gets clogged up a bit in the mornings, but i think that's cause i've been smoking more.

No seriously problems yet, once i got what i think was an ear infection, NOT sure if it was related but it's definitely possible. I had a really bad ear/jaw ache whenever i opened my mouth. Took some ibuprofen and antibiotics and it went away. Haven't had that problem since.

This is just theory-craft but i think the fact that they're sublingual tablets that dissolve completely helps make it easier on the sinuses.

30_Units · 11-28-2009, 06:05 AM

this is something I've only seen in myself, but then again, not a lot of people around me sniff subs.

Back when I used to sniff them regularly, I'd get these almost pimple-like sores in my nose that would hurt for a week. When I stopped sniffing subs, they stopped happening. Take that for what you will, but if you experience anything similar, consider just taking it sublingually.

This is beside the obvious congestion and orange boogers.

SHELLEY · 11-28-2009, 06:39 AM

does this get you high?
not trying to be a smartass (for once), it's a serious question

30_Units · 11-28-2009, 07:14 AM

I don't get high from my subs anymore. I did at one point. The 'high' wasn't anything notable beyond say, tramadol, but it was noticeable.

Mostly what happens now is I get more fucked up than I would have if I hadn't smoked bud/done benzos/other sedatives on top of my meds.

So basically like a combo-multiplier on my drug intake, as far as from a recreational standpoint.

When people don't do it often or just don't have a dependence on the drug, sniffing it makes effects come on quicker than if one were just to take it sublingually. A lot like oc's in that singular regard.

They've been helpful in chipping but it's a chore to taper off. You're rather lucky they always made you sick-it's like all the bad physiological parts of being addicted to dope, without a payoff.

SHELLEY · 11-28-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30_Units

You're rather lucky they always made you sick-it's like all the bad physiological parts of being addicted to dope, without a payoff.

that's how methadone was for me actually
all the shitty parts of a heroin habit without any of the fun parts of a heroin habit

limitless_euphoria · 11-28-2009, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weathereporter

hey peeps.

I snort my subs. Although i only snort 2 mgs at the moment, i have been snorting them for months. Has anyone in a similar position gotten any adverse side effects, such as sinus problems.

thanks
wr

Other than a nasty residue caked on my nose and sinuses not really.

dharma bum · 11-28-2009, 12:01 PM

I snort about the same amount. I get a stuffy nose, which is to be expected i guess. What I worry about is my lungs. That orange dust can't be good for them but neither is tar, nicotine, THC, etc. So if I didn't have those latter habits I would be able to tell if it was the Subs that cause me to cough and wheeze in the morning. I sound like a rusty screen door sometimes. The ladies love it.

Dan Steely · 11-28-2009, 12:53 PM

2mgs is a lotta powder. I'd say a sinus infection is just a matter of time and in case you don't know, they suck/last for weeks.

weathereporter · 11-28-2009, 01:10 PM

Hey Shelley, i dont do it to get high, but to be more conservative. Must be the jew in me or something, but i just cant bring myself to take them sublingually, even when i was snorting eight mg.

A weird side effect that i think is related is a shit ton of orange ear wax has been building up in my ear. Like more than usual and it is pretty gross.

I have gotten a sinus infection before from snorting tar, dan. It manifested as a tooth ache cuz it was so deep in my sinuses that it was infecting my gums too. Dentist gave me some 7.5 vics and some anitibiotics. Discomfort was minimal, but id wouldnt like to try my luck at having another infection.

Do you suppose rinsing your sinuses with saline spray would mitigate chances of infection. Becuase i do that obcessively.

Dan Steely · 11-28-2009, 01:36 PM

probably helps. try to keep all your sniffin paraphanalia super clean too. fyi, if you can get the sublinguil down just right it's actually even more effective than sniffin ime. I couldn't usually. my mouth just got too spitty but a couple times lying in bed with dry mouth I was amazed. fyi2 get off sub while you still can. long term is a bad idea.

austinslacker · 11-28-2009, 01:49 PM

I snort 4mg every 3 hours. supposed to help subside the pain, for I'm CP. I do get a buzz feeling which sometimes I enjoy and other times don't. As for any sinus problems,etc.. none. I don't always follow this regimen take less most of times. My PM dr. has me convinced subutex helps the pain... Dunno. I suffer from neuropathy and Degenerative Disc Disease. Read internet article claiming it is being considered for cancer patients in UK and other parts of Europe. Check out Wikipedia.

Dan Steely · 11-28-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austinslacker

I snort 4mg every 3 hours. supposed to help subside the pain, for I'm CP. I do get a buzz feeling which sometimes I enjoy and other times don't. As for any sinus problems,etc.. none. I don't always follow this regimen take less most of times. My PM dr. has me convinced subutex helps the pain... Dunno. I suffer from neuropathy and Degenerative Disc Disease. Read internet article claiming it is being considered for cancer patients in UK and other parts of Europe. Check out Wikipedia.

you are f'n over your opiate tol for little benefit. you need another dr. find out all you can about sub from every source you can find.(should be standard procedure whenever you take a drug) many dr's are misinformed re sub

austinslacker · 11-28-2009, 01:55 PM

Sorry for the duplicate

ratfink · 12-18-2009, 02:52 AM

hey o-philes,been awhile since my last post but my input on this is-i have been snorting subs for close to a year now,2mg in the morning,2 later on and then 2 more at night.i have to say i haven't had any serious problems,i would have to agree with darhma bum about the lung thing worrying me sometimes but i always make myself believe that since they are sublingual, when they get into your lungs they dissolve and it wouldn't be that much moisture in your lungs at a low dose. of course everyone knows fluid build up in your lungs isn't a good thing but i have wondered for awhile now how much damage does it really do,maybe someone can answer that.

11-28-2009, 01:16 AM	#1
weathereporter Occasionally Opiated Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: here Posts: 13	snorting subs long term hey peeps. I snort my subs. Although i only snort 2 mgs at the moment, i have been snorting them for months. Has anyone in a similar position gotten any adverse side effects, such as sinus problems. thanks wr

11-28-2009, 02:39 AM	#2
Indy Never Looked Back Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Green Bay Posts: 3,614	Re: snorting subs long term Sometimes my nose gets clogged up a bit in the mornings, but i think that's cause i've been smoking more. No seriously problems yet, once i got what i think was an ear infection, NOT sure if it was related but it's definitely possible. I had a really bad ear/jaw ache whenever i opened my mouth. Took some ibuprofen and antibiotics and it went away. Haven't had that problem since. This is just theory-craft but i think the fact that they're sublingual tablets that dissolve completely helps make it easier on the sinuses. __________________ "If after I depart this vale you ever remember me and have thought to please my ghost, forgive some sinner, and wink your eye at some homely girl." - H.L. Mencken

11-28-2009, 06:05 AM	#3
30_Units Opiophile Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: mdtn Posts: 977	Re: snorting subs long term this is something I've only seen in myself, but then again, not a lot of people around me sniff subs. Back when I used to sniff them regularly, I'd get these almost pimple-like sores in my nose that would hurt for a week. When I stopped sniffing subs, they stopped happening. Take that for what you will, but if you experience anything similar, consider just taking it sublingually. This is beside the obvious congestion and orange boogers. __________________

11-28-2009, 06:39 AM	#4
SHELLEY Never Looked Back Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Haiti... I mean Cuba... I mean Miami Posts: 4,455	Re: snorting subs long term does this get you high? not trying to be a smartass (for once), it's a serious question __________________ shelley's stories are always totally fictional and even so, she is much, MUCH cooler than you and has lots more money hypothetically, of course FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-28-2009, 07:14 AM	#5
30_Units Opiophile Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: mdtn Posts: 977	Re: snorting subs long term I don't get high from my subs anymore. I did at one point. The 'high' wasn't anything notable beyond say, tramadol, but it was noticeable. Mostly what happens now is I get more fucked up than I would have if I hadn't smoked bud/done benzos/other sedatives on top of my meds. So basically like a combo-multiplier on my drug intake, as far as from a recreational standpoint. When people don't do it often or just don't have a dependence on the drug, sniffing it makes effects come on quicker than if one were just to take it sublingually. A lot like oc's in that singular regard. They've been helpful in chipping but it's a chore to taper off. You're rather lucky they always made you sick-it's like all the bad physiological parts of being addicted to dope, without a payoff. __________________

11-28-2009, 12:01 PM	#8
dharma bum Never Looked Back Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,307	Re: snorting subs long term I snort about the same amount. I get a stuffy nose, which is to be expected i guess. What I worry about is my lungs. That orange dust can't be good for them but neither is tar, nicotine, THC, etc. So if I didn't have those latter habits I would be able to tell if it was the Subs that cause me to cough and wheeze in the morning. I sound like a rusty screen door sometimes. The ladies love it. __________________ Don't let them say of the man sentenced to death "He is going to pay his debt to society," but: "They are going to cut off his head." It looks like nothing. But it does make a little difference. Albert Camus

11-28-2009, 12:53 PM	#9
Dan Steely Never Looked Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: the land of the free? Posts: 2,074	Re: snorting subs long term 2mgs is a lotta powder. I'd say a sinus infection is just a matter of time and in case you don't know, they suck/last for weeks.

11-28-2009, 01:10 PM	#10
weathereporter Occasionally Opiated Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: here Posts: 13	Re: snorting subs long term Hey Shelley, i dont do it to get high, but to be more conservative. Must be the jew in me or something, but i just cant bring myself to take them sublingually, even when i was snorting eight mg. A weird side effect that i think is related is a shit ton of orange ear wax has been building up in my ear. Like more than usual and it is pretty gross. I have gotten a sinus infection before from snorting tar, dan. It manifested as a tooth ache cuz it was so deep in my sinuses that it was infecting my gums too. Dentist gave me some 7.5 vics and some anitibiotics. Discomfort was minimal, but id wouldnt like to try my luck at having another infection. Do you suppose rinsing your sinuses with saline spray would mitigate chances of infection. Becuase i do that obcessively.

11-28-2009, 01:36 PM	#11
Dan Steely Never Looked Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: the land of the free? Posts: 2,074	Re: snorting subs long term probably helps. try to keep all your sniffin paraphanalia super clean too. fyi, if you can get the sublinguil down just right it's actually even more effective than sniffin ime. I couldn't usually. my mouth just got too spitty but a couple times lying in bed with dry mouth I was amazed. fyi2 get off sub while you still can. long term is a bad idea.

11-28-2009, 01:49 PM	#12
austinslacker Opiophorum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: TX Posts: 214	Re: snorting subs long term I snort 4mg every 3 hours. supposed to help subside the pain, for I'm CP. I do get a buzz feeling which sometimes I enjoy and other times don't. As for any sinus problems,etc.. none. I don't always follow this regimen take less most of times. My PM dr. has me convinced subutex helps the pain... Dunno. I suffer from neuropathy and Degenerative Disc Disease. Read internet article claiming it is being considered for cancer patients in UK and other parts of Europe. Check out Wikipedia. Last edited by austinslacker; 11-28-2009 at 01:51 PM.. Reason: none

11-28-2009, 01:55 PM	#14
austinslacker Opiophorum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: TX Posts: 214	Re: snorting subs long term Sorry for the duplicate

12-18-2009, 02:52 AM	#15
ratfink Occasionally Opiated Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ms Posts: 13	Re: snorting subs long term hey o-philes,been awhile since my last post but my input on this is-i have been snorting subs for close to a year now,2mg in the morning,2 later on and then 2 more at night.i have to say i haven't had any serious problems,i would have to agree with darhma bum about the lung thing worrying me sometimes but i always make myself believe that since they are sublingual, when they get into your lungs they dissolve and it wouldn't be that much moisture in your lungs at a low dose. of course everyone knows fluid build up in your lungs isn't a good thing but i have wondered for awhile now how much damage does it really do,maybe someone can answer that.

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