need some help

[nuts4roxies]

so swim has finally got health insurance and is planning on going to the doctor in a few days for his anxiety problems swim does not sleep for days at a time eats very little sometimes not at all for a couple days, picks his lips and nails until they bleed and on occasion suffers from panick attacks swim has taken xanax before and it works wonders he is able to have a anxiety free day but it is hard to find where he lives swim plans on telling his doctor all these things

swim also believes he may know where his anxiety about a year and a half ago swim passed out while on shrooms and hit his head on a hard wood floor when he regained consciousness the right side of his face was numb and he was scared to death not wanting his parents to find out about his drug use he decided not to see a doctor and since the expiernce he has suffered from anxiety which he believes might be caused from ptsd

this is only swims theory my question is do you think me telling my doctor what happened with the shrooms could make him less likely to perscribe swim xanax also besides what the symptoms swim already actually suffers from is there anything else swim should say that will put him in a better postion to be perscribed the xanax sorry the post is so long thanks for any advice in advance

[blackman]

Swim should try and use some punctuation.

But no, I would not tell the doctor about your mushroom use.
Actually, I would just tell your story minus the mushroom part. Seems honest enough.
Do you have any serious panic attacks? Can't breath and such?

[nuts4roxies]

yeah but mostly his face gets real red and he gets lightheaded but the panick attacks dont bother him as much as all the other stuff thanks for the advice though

[blackman]

Perhaps you not sleeping and eating might be resolved with some anti-depressents.
I'm not sure. But your symptom of not eating makes it sound like more than just an anxiety problem.

[nuts4roxies]

you maybe right about the anti depressants my anxiety could stem from depression but honestly i dont feel depressed right now im open to anything that may help the only reason i would rather be perscribed xanax is because i have taken it before and it has work and i would rather not go through ten different meds that dont work when i know the xanax does

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[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

"Swim should try and use some punctuation." blackman

LOL- 3 paragraph one run on sentence
I concur, LET THE 'SHROOMS PART OUT
any drug illect use makes swim like BAD

BUT THINK before you get benzo habbit
you will if you get scripted- IMO

just sayin

[nuts4roxies]

thanks for the concern man

[Dhedmo]

Definitely don't talk about mushrooms! LOL.

I used to only use Valium when I flew, or occasionally to sleep if I was treating my back. But when I started work in a boiler-room call center, I shot up to 60mg a day. (Turnover for this place, in 06, was over 100% in sales!)

Doc suggested effexor, and anti-depressant.

That shit made me squailly. It was the most horrible feeling. I went back to the benzos, but I didn't need them too much longer. The orig company had been bought by a big fish before I started, and at the end of the year corp. flew in and cleared out exec mgmt and sales mgmt. New guys were great, it became a really positive place. Eventually everything was consolidated out of state, and I ended up being among the handful of employees on the last pay run.

BTW, I didn't really have any trouble kicking the benzos, for some reason. It may have been naivete, because I had no expectation for wds. Night sweats were outrageous for a couple days, but that was it for me. I know it's not the case for many others, based on the number of skeptical eyebrows raised whenever it comes up. And take their warnings seriously. For some, it's a tougher kick than fent, and if that's true then it must be a mf.

Xanax has a much shorter half-life than valium. Whatever your dose of valium, if taken as directed you can dose once a day and be good for 24 hrs, although it will stay in your system longer.

Good luck.

[Chemical_Boy]

Yeah... The people responding are correct in that if you mention the shrooms, 999,999 out of 1,000,000 doctors will not give you xanax no matter what. A fairly large number of docs will try you on an antidepressant as well, before moving to anything potentially habit forming especially with the way that you are describing everything regarding sleep and other symptoms.

If it were me, I would go about it a bit differently- although you have the general idea of what needs to get done. First I would let the doctore know that this is not the first time that it has happened. Then I would list the common antidpressants that I have tried for same problem in the past- such as effexor, lexapro, and specifically Paxil (read on and you will see why Paxil) and that one of the side effects that made the cure worse than the disease was that all of the ADs seemed to make you jittery and give you insomnia- even after you waited a month or two (this is important because a lot of docs will tell you that the side effects get better as you get farther along the time-line.

As far as the paxil goes, you are likely to have this thrown at you first if your doc likes SSRIs and you mention anxiety, as Paxil is the leading FDA approved SSRI for anxiety. I mention anxiety because you are more likely to get Xanies for anxiety- the acute kind not the chronic- than you are for sleep (without again becoming a guinea pig for a while).

So check up on panic attacks. Your symptoms include some that would be indicative of a panic attack diagnosis. But also better let them know that during these episodes you can here your heart beating in your ears and you have a hard time functioning normally for a little while (like ten or fifteen minutes) in that you get flustered if people are talking to you or asking questions and such.

Anyhow, good luck with that.

Also, what has worked in the past for me is mentioning that since this is not the first time of having this happen, what has helped in the past was a combo of (Insert preferred antidepressant here) for the generalized anxiety and a script of 20-30 xanax per month (.5 or 1 mg, these are the sizes most likely used on someone who dies not have a history of taking them, particularly the .5mg ers) written to take one tablet every four to six hours on problem days as needed. Specifically asking for a non habit forming med for the same issue takes the focus off of the fact that you are asking for a habit forming med by name. At least in my experience.

[nuts4roxies]

yea i thought that mentioning the mushrooms would most likely be bad but i figured if i was honest about it it make work out better for me but from your guys post i can see i was being naive and if valium is more effective that would be great im really only to do this to try to get ride of these problems

and for the no punctuation does it really matter i mean if you guys are gonna start grading me on it i'll try to keep it in mind but come on can it really annoy you that much that you need to point it out we are not in school we are on a website for people who love opiates not people who love correcting grammer

[Chemical_Boy]

Originally Posted by nuts4roxies

o punctuation does it really matter i mean if you guys are gonna start grading me on it i'll try to keep it in mind but come on can it really annoy you that much that you need to point it out we are not in school we are on a website for people who love opiates not people who love correcting grammer

Go easy there Nuts4Rox.... It is nbd, but it makes things easier to read. I don 't think anyone is jumping down your throat, but I think even if you look in the guideline for the site it asks to try to write correctly so that threads read easily, flow, and read well.

I don't think anyone expects perfection, but a little effort is all that is asked for....

Let us know what happens with the Doc..... Success or failure, how you went about it, etc.....

[Dhedmo]

Originally Posted by nuts4roxies

yea i thought that mentioning the mushrooms would most likely be bad but i figured if i was honest about it it make work out better for me but from your guys post i can see i was being naive and if valium is more effective that would be great im really only to do this to try to get ride of these problems

PLEASE: Don't misread my post. I was on a pretty large dose of valium and was just lucky to be able to walk away with no boo boos.

Wait for some more advice. Xanax might be a better way to start, esp if you have an opi habit. Opis and benzos can be lethal (search for threads), and diazepam has a long half-life (meaning it still counts toward your total even when you don't feel it anymore, and thus you may be prone to overdo it, which, with an opi habit, can be deadly).

Hey, you might even get what you need from effexor. It made me feel like a cross-section of my toilet outtake pipe, though...

Be careful.

[nuts4roxies]

sorry i misread your post and as far as other things working besides xanax im all for it as long as it helps the only reason im hoping for xanax is i know it helps i just dont want to get perscribed something that doesnt help and go to my doctor saying i need something better or stronger and he thinks im fishing for a good high id rather just get .25mg xanax and thanks for the advice on the dangers of mixing

[Chemical_Boy]

It can definitely be hit and miss. So much easier if you can feel out the doctor beforehand. Otherwise it is pretty much a crapshoot. Some Doctors are real cool,

Some Drs are easy, some are damn near impossible.

[nuts4roxies]

well i've been to the doc before and hes cool but he has never perscribed me any narcotics so im just gonna keep my fingers crossed and hope whatever he gives me helps and if it doesnt hopefully he will be cool if i tell him i need something stronger and not take it the wrong way im just nervous that cuz im young he may think im just looking for a high

but im sure that when he see my lips and nails he will see that im serious