Obtaining Pure Oxy?

[duck]

OK, I'm starting to care a little bit more about my personal health, and would like to reduce the damage caused to my nasal by snorting shitloads of OC. I love snorting things, so this will not stop, I prefer snorting to shooting even. I just want to reduce the harm as much as possible.

I was thinking:

1) Take 10 80s or so (about 7 days worth for me if I'm maintaining)
2) Remove Coating and powderize
3) Put powder in small vessel (say maybe 3tbs or so)
4) Add limited amount of water, similar to what you would use if you were going to shoot the powder
5) Let dissolve for 30min or so, stirring occaisionally
6)Use insulin syringe to draw up liquid through a chunk of cotton.
7) Squirt the liquid into a new clean, low, wide vessel
8)Repeat 6 & 7 until all of the liquid is in the new clean vessel and the remaining crud in the old vessel is as dry as possible, eat remaining crud
9) Let evaporate over night
10) Then you would have pure oxy + any other binder or filler that was water soluble in the original pill make-up -- which for my purposes the only reason I wanting to do this is to remove the non-water soluble particulate matter in the OC pills that is being inhaled into my lungs for eternity.

Criticism of plan: You will lose a certain amount both in transporting the liquid repeatedly and some left in the crud after you filter.

Do you see anywhere else where I would be losing oxy other than in filtering? Will my plan work?

[seven10kids]

very good idea in theroy. Thanks for sharing!

[Tainted]

Seems like it should work, but it will be difficult to judge how much you need to do. 10 80s would make it a reasonable pile, but eyeballing one dose may be hard, if you get CLOSE to just OC in there, then it will be pretty hard to eyeball amounts around 80mg.


Another thing to worry about, you know how when you push up the line with your razor/credit card, you always get that little bit sticking to the side of said tool, well if your doing 80mg of pure, that's not a whole lot and that little bit that gets stuck is going to contain way more OC then when it's filled with binder and filler. You can always snort it off the card, but in my experience it's hard to do so and I just lick it...


Do let us know how it goes though.

[blackman]

Well then. Your plan sounds very thoughtful as it's focused on protecting your shnoz. A valualbe asset.
Although, I'm kinda confused. If you were to filter the OC multiple times and then let it evaporate, would you actually end up with powder? I mean, wouldn't you have to cook it somehow? Kinda like getting a bottle of ketimine and "cooking" it down on a hotplate or something to get to the powder form. Would only evaporating give you the desired results? Don't let it sound like I know what I'm talking about.

Fuck, these are probably the questions you're seeking answers to.
Sorry if I'm not helpful.

[duck]

In theory, with enough time, I think it would evaporate.

Tainted-- good points. Luckily my tolerance is bananas and if I were to misdose myself it wouldn't be dangerous. I would have to do over half the entire amount to OD intranasally. Hopefully I don't miscaluclate that bad!

And yes, you would have to be much more careful with th resulting powder, as I'm sure it will be VERY little.

That's the main issue I see: the resulting powder will be VERY little. However, I could then just cut it with some sort of water soluble, non-abrasive odorless/flavorless powder. It's not just snorting powder that bothers me, it's the non-water soluble stuff.

Thanks for the expedient correspondence.

[Shadowsblaze]

I don't have any answers for you Duck just another question, would this make Roxi's safer as well, is it worth the effort on Roxi's.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

I thinking very high grade medical prex. glassware\
on low heat warming plate helping spread evaporation and lessen chance of bacteria growth in water will evaporating
also sterile water/ or at least distalled boiled and cooled

YES you will lose so oxy, but that does NOT seem the big concern -right?
maybe invest in wheel filter with mic, of your choosing
one pull would then do it all rather then mutli cottons

FUCK- just 2 pennies off top of me head
me beaker fucked from back in the 'C' days

shit every one of those coffe mug warmer- perfect temp =$9

[duck]

Shadows-- Yeah it would definitely be worthwhile with Roxis as they have, per mg of oxy, a pretty similar level of fillers and binders, at least some of which are water-insoluble so if that's an issue with you (it doesn't bother a lot of people, probably b/c of ignorance of the danger of water-insolubles in the longs (this is bad, right bio/science guys, nurses?), then an exact process as this one (assuming it works) would be the right tactic to employ IMO.

Originally Posted by GOLD N DIEMONDS

I thinking very high grade medical prex. glassware\
on low heat warming plate helping spread evaporation and lessen chance of bacteria growth in water will evaporating
also sterile water/ or at least distalled boiled and cooled

YES you will lose so oxy, but that does NOT seem the big concern -right?
maybe invest in wheel filter with mic, of your choosing
one pull would then do it all rather then mutli cottons

FUCK- just 2 pennies off top of me head
me beaker fucked from back in the 'C' days

shit every one of those coffe mug warmer- perfect temp =$9

I agree completely -- could be improved with a small investment in some crude science equipment

[digby]

Since this is just for snorting anyway, wouldn't it be better to find a way to just leave it in solution, say a small amount - one weeks worth - find a way to eliminate bacterial growth and just use your nasal sprayer as one would use saline solution? I would love to see this kind of solution for other drugs as well, oxymorphone and hydromorphone especially. The key would seem to be perhaps heating slightly after filtering to kill off bacteria and then bottle in a unit with precise enough measurement to avoid OD and life would be grand.

I think this has been brought up before and seemed to be a good idea back then as well.

It just seemed like a lot of extra work to get it back into dry powder form - and the small amount would make waste pretty much unavoidable. If you could keep it wet, far less waste and far less hassle.

[duck]

Originally Posted by digby

Since this is just for snorting anyway, wouldn't it be better to find a way to just leave it in solution, say a small amount - one weeks worth - find a way to eliminate bacterial growth and just use your nasal sprayer as one would use saline solution? I would love to see this kind of solution for other drugs as well, oxymorphone and hydromorphone especially. The key would seem to be perhaps heating slightly after filtering to kill off bacteria and then bottle in a unit with precise enough measurement to avoid OD and life would be grand.

I think this has been brought up before and seemed to be a good idea back then as well.

It just seemed like a lot of extra work to get it back into dry powder form - and the small amount would make waste pretty much unavoidable. If you could keep it wet, far less waste and far less hassle.

I have done this exact thing with oxy and it works superbly. The mist is perfect, dosing is straightforward and it never clogged or degraded.

HOWEVER -- 2 things.

First, the liquid drains to the back of your throat at least 2-3x as bad as with powder, and I prefer intranasal (I know the oral bioavail. blah blah blah) '

Second, this is a fetish thing. I am extremely addicted to snorting powder, ritual and what not, all that...I am obsessed with it as much as the drug -- nasal mist aint the same -- I love lines.

[Shadowsblaze]

I was making a spray with my roxi's but wanted to add a 60 morph er and crushing added the gel to the mix and was not good with the gel in your nose.

But I took one and left it in 2 mils. purified water.

After 12 hrs. the pill had expanded and was clear gel with material in its center after 24 hrs. it expanded even more was completely clear and took in alot of the water but released alot of bitter tasting solution. I drew that off and it was a good additive for the roxi. The remaining gel was bitter tasteing as well so I ate that.

I couldn't judge the results as I had only done it before with all the material gel and all.

Same here with the ritual deely likeing lines and the instant head thing. Plus I get real good results by hitting real slow.

As a matter a fact sounds like a good idea about now.

[upstate_007]

Originally Posted by duck

OK, I'm starting to care a little bit more about my personal health, and would like to reduce the damage caused to my nasal by snorting shitloads of OC. I love snorting things, so this will not stop, I prefer snorting to shooting even. I just want to reduce the harm as much as possible.

I was thinking:

1) Take 10 80s or so (about 7 days worth for me if I'm maintaining)
2) Remove Coating and powderize
3) Put powder in small vessel (say maybe 3tbs or so)
4) Add limited amount of water, similar to what you would use if you were going to shoot the powder
5) Let dissolve for 30min or so, stirring occaisionally
6)Use insulin syringe to draw up liquid through a WHEEL FILTER.
7) Squirt the liquid into a new clean, low, wide BLOOD vessel
8)Repeat 6 & 7 until all of the liquid is in the new clean BLOOD vessel and the remaining crud in the old Bvessel is as dry as possible, eat remaining crud


Criticism of plan: You will lose a certain amount both in transporting the liquid repeatedly and some left in the crud after you filter.

Do you see anywhere else where I would be losing oxy other than in filtering? Will my plan work?

There you go. Fixed that fucking plan right up for ya chief. Harm reduction? Never heard of it.


All seriousness aside........... I think your plan might work. I do have a few suggestions though

- Try it with one or two 80s. No need to fuck up a whole bunch of perfectly good drugs if it does not work out the first time.

- The evap portion of the process will be the most critical. You need to spread the liquid as thin as possible over as large of a surface area as possible. I tried just letting water evaporate on it's own one time in a beaker. All I got was moldy water. Use a hair dryer or something. That gets shit moving pretty quick.

[Wilshire]

Ah... This is the kind of talk that makes me want to become a chemist! That would be the only way one could possibly obtain true pure oxycodone... Oh the possibilities...

[30_Units]

The only thing I can think of, and forgive me if this has been mentioned, but if you repeated a squeeze, filter, evap, add more water, repeat system over several, I don't see how you'd lose very much. The more you rush though, the more that'll be left in suspension.

This all rides on how well the crushed matrix holds onto the oxycodone and at what rate that diffuses into water I guess. Of which I truley have no idea.

But good plan-it'll work, no waste involved as long as everything gets ingested, which it sounds like's the plan.

Report back!

[euphoricontin17]

hey, sorry for the OT but I remember awhile ago in a thread talking about oxy tolerance, this one dude just says

" Back when dude had pure oxy for $45 a g, I was doing 2 g's of oxy a day"

ah man that just makes me laugh. I think it was duck or someone who said

" I want to believe this, I really do. But I can't"

hahaha