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Just like it is with every addictive and dangerous drug, they fix our depression and anxiety disorders.
I rarely take xanax, it's hard to find and when I come across it, I usually give it to my friend who loves it and "gets high" from it. Today I had an exam, and got the results back from another exam, which were particularly grim, and I had taken some adderall to study, so I was a complete nervous anxious panicking wreck by about 2:00 PM. My heart was racing, I was afraid my future was over, and I was just feeling like total shit. I come home, pop 2mg of xan, and my problems just seem to melt away. My anxiety about school goes away, letting me figure out the best course of action to solve my problem and move forward. My social anxiety goes away, letting me write a very professional and persuasive email to my professors explaining my concerns. Time just seems to pass more pleasantly while on benzos, my normal OCD and S.A.D (social anxiety disorder) tendencies are greatly muted and controlled, I'm able to interact with people and talk without fear and inhibition, I can start conversations with complete strangers, and generally act like the person that I always wish I could be while in social situations. It's unfortunate that xanax is an addictive evil substance that would just leave me chained to it's dangerous seizure inducing withdrawal. I wish it didn't have to be this way. It's really too bad that the drugs that really help us cope with our problems become our problems. Opioids are such a great anti depressant and anxiolytic, but look where they leave us, constantly fiending and in fear of withdrawal, shelling out hundreds of dollars a day... It sucks that I can't take xanax for my anxiety beacuse I'll end up dependent on benzos, the last place I want to be. Ah, life, so unfair. |
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Never Looked Back
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Yes sir- they certainly do have some good features. Opiates and Benzos are excellent medicine when used properly. I am unable to do so unfortunately.
Eventually, if used too much, the dark side will come out. But xannies relax me too- I can interact with people do things that normally make me nervous. It sounds like adderal as a study aid might not be the best choice for you buddy. The xannies will definitely counteract the negative effects of stimulants, so I am glad they helped you feel better. But watch out, people with personalities like yours (and mine ) are likely to overuse/abuse that type fo medicine eventually. |
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Well, you mention you took 2mg..believe it or not that's actually a huge dose.
Most people (when prescribed xanax by a doctor for anxiety) start out at .25 or .5 (1/8th or 1/4th the dose you took!) Have you tried taking a lower dose and observing the effects? I recently got my sub doc to give me a xannie script and I love it...I only get 15 .5's (equal to 3 and 3\4 2mg bars) per month so there's no way possible to abuse it...it's just enough to take when I start to have hot flashes \ panic attacks, but not enough to make me sleepy or get a physical dependence.. I noticed that the first time I took it however -- it was much stronger than the next two times..makes me think it's attributed to tollerance but who knows...either way, I actually kind of like it now because it's just enough to take away anxiety but not enough to fuck with my alertness. The first time I took it, I did feel kind of sleepy... I don't think benzos provide a euphoric feeling so I doubt I would ever indulge in trying to get high on them anymore (I have in the past but not anything serious)...the only way I could ever abuse them is if I had some coke...gotta have something to fill that empty void that opiates have but benzos lack, ya know? opiates for me provide both the relaxation AND euphoria, but with benzos, it's all relaxation and no euphoria...almost leaves you with this cold feeling like something is missing... Also, I've taken vistaril in the past for anxiety...it works but it makes you HELLA tired...and not in a good way....one pill makes you feel like you just downed an entire bottle of benedryl...just something to consider I guess...they do work though. Ya know what else xanax is great for? Coming down...off of anything really...if you're feendin for coke, H, coming off an acid trip, DXM, whatever...xanax or any decent dose of benzos will turn your feend frenzy nerves off and allow you to get some rest.
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[QUOTE=ryan;431304] ......I noticed that the first time I took it however -- it was much stronger than the next two times.. opiates for me provide both the relaxation AND euphoria, but with benzos, it's all relaxation and no euphoria...almost leaves you with this cold feeling like something is missing........ Also, I've taken vistaril in the past for anxiety...it works but it makes you HELLA tired...and not in a good way........./QUOTE] The only time I actually ever caught a buzz of of xanax was the first time I took it. For about an hour after I took 1mg, my head was all tingly and I had this really pleasant sensation. Never again would I be able to catch a buzz from just xanax. Trying to would always end up with me blacked out but not realizing that I was even intoxicated, xanax, as a recreational drug, is a "sauce drug" (as I heard someone on here reference it, though I forget who), meaning that it goes well with things like booze, opiates (in moderation as this is dangerous), or other things. But by itself it is good for only two things- legitemate use at the correct dose, and taking the edge off of a nasty coke comedown... Vistaril (hydroxazine) is prescribe doccasionally for anxiety, but you are correct in comparing it to Benadryl as it is a strong antihistamine. I find that it does very little for anxiety, especially compared to xanax. |
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Thanks for the advice guys.
Yeah I know 2mg is a big dose, the reason I took/take so much is because of my stupid "more is always better" mentality when it comes to drugs, I'm sure if I took .5 or .25 it would have similarly great affects on my anxiety without the negative side effects (sleepiness, dependence, etc). The thing is, I could never take it before class or school, because it really fucks with my memory and gives me date-rape like amenesia in doses above 2mg. While I know the amnesia would be less with a lower dose, I still wouldn't want to run any risk of taking a drug that's going to make me forget what I'm learning, even if it lets me relax and interact in the classroom better... Such a paradox, but as is life. |
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Never Looked Back
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Yeah.... benzos are about the worst thing for memory imo. I imagine they would not help you retain classroom material one bit.
Next time, just try half a bar (1mg) at home and see how you feel. . . . |
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Oxycontin fixes MY personality disorder....lol
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Good thinking spork.............. Nasty stuff to mess with if you don't have to....
And... Yeah. I most certainly agree! It *IS* sad, and it *IS* unfair that the Human Nervous System has over the years evolved to be such a cruel and sadistic and unforgiving and hopelessly un-fixable/un-correctable(in the long run) bastard... , etc For all the no-good-whatsoever crying about it does, I always found it... I don't know... kind of interesting... The way that if a Mother pre-human Hominid had two children-- One who had an amplified perception of pain, and general Angst/anxiety/etc, and a Second one who feels pretty mellow and happy all the time, It was always the first one who would live and reproduce, and the second one who would die, and/or who would not bother to reproduce, etc.. Gettin' pretty philosophical 'round here.. Sorry about that.... Never mind folks... Good luck with school, spork-- its only midterms, and it'll all be cruising from here until finals.... No worries... and yeah... once again, Freaking benzos, man.... over and out, at&t |
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I used to say the same shit.
But, to be totally honest here, I wasn't *really* broken in the first place. I can look back on my childhood, before I started abusing drugs and alcohol, and I was pretty normal. I'm sure every fuck up doctor out there would have diagnosed me with something but I didn't have a serious "anxiety disorder" or depression disorder. All my mental disorders came, or got much worse, when I started using every chemical psychoactive I could find. Inhalents, Hallucinogens, PCP, Benzos, Cocaine and who-knows-what-else... I'm not so sure I didn't cause myself some mental problems. And I think if I quit every single one of the chemicals I'd be just fuckin fine in a year or two when my brain heals up. |
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Interesting post, Papa Vernie......
I don't know....... Personally, I don't know.... I feel that I was a "somewhat/significantly screwed-up" little kid, who eventually became an "only marginally (??) not very (??) screwed-up" adult.. I remember Very very Clearly the first time at school that they mentioned the word "Heroin." They said something about how "Heroin users end up having to take the drug JUST TO FEEL OK! JUST TO FEEL NORMAL! Can you imagine how terrible that would be?" And I said to myself-- at age what.. 8 or 9 or whatever, I said-- "What? There is some kind of pill or something somewhere you can take that does that? That is great news!" Sorry for (continuing to go on) rambling about useless rubbish, but PV's post reminded me of it, and... shrugs. Sorry... I'll go be quiet now. at&t [edit: PS. But yeah... Papa Vernie sure has that one right-- (American) Doctors these days will diagnose the hell out of (American) kids with anything and everything they can think of.........] |
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I should've mentioned in my post that I can only speak for myself. Of course I DO believe in pediatric psychiatric disorders. But for me, I started to feel "Really" depressed, and have anxiety/sleep problems after I starting using chemicals.
But hey, believe me when I say I used A LOT of chemicals. By the time I was 17 I was a seasoned drug user. We had everything you could think of in my high school. I didn't pass on any of it. And I'll let you guess what I've been doing in the 17 years since then. Lots and lots of drugs... Who the fuck knows what I would've been like. I don't... edit: Maybe it will take more like 4 or 5 years to get back to normal, now that I think about it. That's a long time to not feel quite right. That's what stops me from trying... |
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they really DO lack a sort of "base" feeling in the way of euphoria they are absolutely the end all,be all for coming down tho and a must for "coke without paranoia"
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papa V these are my sentiments exactly,most of the time would we be normal after years of abuse tho? maybe
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if you need benzos then you need benzos. its not just benzos meprobamate and the barbiturates have similar problems. you could try the herb kava which acts similarly in the brain. I have several friends that are dependent on valium, xanax, temazepam, or ativan. I even have a friend with a child that needs phenobarbital for seizures. I used to get ativan and before that valium but its hard to find a good doctor. if you need it and its the only thing that helps you live with a better quality of life then you may have to maintain on antianxiety drugs that cause physical dependency for the rest of your life, but at least its a life worth living instead of one filled with panic and anxiety.
when I got my ativan I would only take them if I really needed to. my ex got scripted valium for anxiety and temazepam for sleep and I really started to like taking a big dose of temazepam with my opioids or to chill out if my ritalin was fucking with me. I could take huge doses and stay awake even without ritalin. after we broke up I was taking ambien to try and get the same effect but ran out and I've only done benzos 2 times since, ativan and valium. in the US it seems temazepam isn't used much recreationally and it doesn't make any sense to me because in many other countries it is the most abused benzo and it seemed to be the best out of the benzos I've tried.
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