A-215

[Raekwon]

Ahhh damn the first shot of the day is the best especially when you've been anxiously waiting all day for it.

But on to my question, since they started manufacturing the A-215/amide brand Oxy 30mg IR's early this year, was there any word of them putting in any anti abuse deterrents in them? I'm asking because it seems like they dont give me the same rush IV'ed like they used to, especially compared to the Malli 30mg's.

So is there any sort of new anti abuse mechanism in them?

[Mallinckrodt]

I think they started putting tolerance in there. At least like every third one.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Mallinckrodt

I think they started putting tolerance in there. At least like every third one.

No it just seems like compared to the mallis oxy IR's they arent as strong when i do the same dosage.

[hydro chris]

Originally Posted by Mallinckrodt

I think they started putting tolerance in there. At least like every third one.

yeah i heard this also
i tried utse for 3min but i couldnt come up with a chemical structure, can you help me out here?

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by hydro chris

yeah i heard this also
i tried utse for 3min but i couldnt come up with a chemical structure, can you help me out here?

I also noticed something when i added water to it, it looked like it gelled up a bit, but then again it could be my eyes playing tricks on me since ive never dealt with any pills that gel up so i dont really know what it looks like when something gels up. Does it turn into a blob of gel or is it lil globs of gel when a pill gels up?

[krinkov]

Originally Posted by Mallinckrodt

I think they started putting tolerance in there. At least like every third one.

I think all of my drugs have this in them nowadays.

[Opiyum]

Man I hate when dealers cut their shit with tolerance and there is no way to know if they have or not. You can't smell it or taste or feel it.
I guess Big Pharma has taken a que from those bastards on the street and started doing it themselves.
Speaking of tolerance I bet if I just snorted an 80 I would be wrecked. Of course it would only last a few days but that's a nice feeling....and probably one I shouldn't think about in this most vulnerable of times.

[Raekwon]

wow, im just asking that since they started making the amides again, did they put any anti abuse mechanism's in them, since it seems like they dont dissolve like they used to before they halted production on them. And they dont seem to give the same feeling compared to the same dosage as of a malli 30mg IR.

[hydro chris]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

I also noticed something when i added water to it, it looked like it gelled up a bit, but then again it could be my eyes playing tricks on me since ive never dealt with any pills that gel up so i dont really know what it looks like when something gels up. Does it turn into a blob of gel or is it lil globs of gel when a pill gels up?

well actually thats just the form of H2O that ur using. btw- be careful.

[Opiyum]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

wow, im just asking that since they started making the amides again, did they put any anti abuse mechanism's in them, since it seems like they dont dissolve like they used to before they halted production on them. And they dont seem to give the same feeling compared to the same dosage as of a malli 30mg IR.

Wasnt really asking for smart ass remarks.

Calm down now honey we are all just having some fun...and not specifically with you just fun in a general sense.
I don't think anyone, as of yet, can answer your question so instead they and I chose to fuck around. It's one of the few things in this world that we enjoy doing other than drugs.

[jersey_emt]

Originally Posted by hydro chris

well actually thats just the form of H2O that ur using. btw- be careful.

Yeah, you need to use the hydroxyl acid form, not the dihydrogen monoxide form. The latter can be highly corrosive and extremely poisonous.

Seriously though....there have been scattered reports of this but nothing factual. If they changed the formulation, the package insert would need to be changed, and it hasn't.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Opiyum

Calm down now honey we are all just having some fun...and not specifically with you just fun in a general sense.
I don't think anyone, as of yet, can answer your question so instead they and I chose to fuck around. It's one of the few things in this world that we enjoy doing other than drugs.

sorry about that man, just a little on edge because of some offline shit going on right now. Ive just been wondering this since they brought back the amides, because before they halted production i dont remember them being like this when you added water for the shot, because it seems like it doesnt dissolve as well as the malli's do. like their would be like chunks of something floating around even though i crushed it to powder. And i dont know if its because its gelling or what. Because ive never had experience with any pills that gel up before.

[Opiyum]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

sorry about that man, just a little on edge because of some offline shit going on right now. Ive just been wondering this since they brought back the amides, because before they halted production i dont remember them being like this when you added water for the shot, because it seems like it doesnt dissolve as well as the malli's do. like their would be like chunks of something floating around even though i crushed it to powder. And i dont know if its because its gelling or what. Because ive never had experience with any pills that gel up before.

Yeah that's definitely odd. If it's a difference as noticeable as you are making it out to be then they must have changed something. I don't do and haven't done prescription meds for awhile now other than the brand name oxy's occasionally so I can't help you at all but I'm sure soon enough someone who knows what your talking about will give you an answer and if not as long as you seem to be getting the same high and rush then just think of it as a different means to the same end.
If it is making that much harder to cook and if it seems to be weaker then that just means you gotta get a different connect or talk to your doc.
Good luck figuring that out anyhow.

Oh and don't worry about being a little edgey. That's something every single person here is very familiar with and no one is going to hold it against you. I just wanted to make sure things didn't escalate and then get out of hand over something very meaningless.

[MethadonBoblow]

This could be from several different things other than some kind of blocker being put in them. One could be your tolerance maybe alot more than it was when they were making them before. Another could be they're paying more attention to the dosage they put in each pill. Before I think there was less DEA looking at the stuff so they didn't have to be so careful about the correct dosage and they use to put too much oxy in them and that's the reason they had to stop making them to begin with. I'm not sure either way but that could be it.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Opiyum

Yeah that's definitely odd. If it's a difference as noticeable as you are making it out to be then they must have changed something. I don't do and haven't done prescription meds for awhile now other than the brand name oxy's occasionally so I can't help you at all but I'm sure soon enough someone who knows what your talking about will give you an answer and if not as long as you seem to be getting the same high and rush then just think of it as a different means to the same end.
If it is making that much harder to cook and if it seems to be weaker then that just means you gotta get a different connect or talk to your doc.
Good luck figuring that out anyhow.

Oh and don't worry about being a little edgey. That's something every single person here is very familiar with and no one is going to hold it against you. I just wanted to make sure things didn't escalate and then get out of hand over something very meaningless.

It just seems weird, i know krinkov made a thread about the amides a month ago saying they gel up, i dont notice major gelling like you would with the malli OC's but i can tell its different compared to the amides that were around before the FDA shut their ass down for a year. So theres gotta be something new to in chemical structure.

Krinkov got any ideas?

Originally Posted by MethadonBoblow

This could be from several different things other than some kind of blocker being put in them. One could be your tolerance maybe alot more than it was when they were making them before. Another could be they're paying more attention to the dosage they put in each pill. Before I think there was less DEA looking at the stuff so they didn't have to be so careful about the correct dosage and they use to put too much oxy in them and that's the reason they had to stop making them to begin with. I'm not sure either way but that could be it.

I'm not comparing my tolerance to back when i first started shooting the A-215, im comparing to lets say a 60mg shot of it to a 60mg shot of the Malli oxy IR. Because i am aware of my tolerance, it just seems weird that im not getting the same feeling from the same exact shot from 2 different brands of the same pill.