Ms Contin+Klonopin

[NARKOS]

I take 0.5 mg of Klonopin daily for panic attacks.(and effexor xr). I wanted to use Ms Contin for pain relief, Vicodin seems to help the best among the opiates besides opium itself. I have tried percocet(makes me jumpy),darvocet, and proproxyphene(too weak). Because of the long half life that Ms Contin has(12hrs), i am afraid that i could have an adverse reaction. When i took morphine in the hospital through IV, i seemed to have a very high tolerance(even though i never used opiates before). The doctors were shocked after giving me 3mg of pure morphine, they asked if i was a heroin addict and started looking for track marks because of my amazing tolerance. They said they have never seen anything like this before. They finally gave me 2mg of dilaudid with the 3mg of morphine and that seemed to dull the pain a little bit. (i had a disk removed from the bottom of my spine and 8 titanium bars put in from an 18 wheeler hitting my car from behind). From that accident i have constant back pain and the only opiate that works is opium for the pain, but i am waiting for my harvest. Does anyone know if the Ms Contin will help me until i can harvest my opium? Someone please help, I can't stand the pain any longer. Thanks to anyone who can help and God Bless.

[superman]

"Does anyone know if the Ms Contin will help me until i can harvest my opium?"

Absolutely it will. the most active ingredient of opium is morphine. morphine cuts through all my worst back pain and even lets me do hard work.
I would suggest maybe even using the morphine so that you don't need to use as much opium. if you're already on morphine, and have some breakthrough pain then you could just smoke a little opium vs. a full dose.

hope this helps

[earthenone]

It will work, depending on how you do it, and how much you do, tollerance is the key. If you have a back injury, your tollerance will probably never go down since if you stop taking opiates you will hurt, I speak from experience on that just get used to it. I dont know about mixing it with klonopin daily.

[GMorris]

This is interesting, I talked to a guy some time ago who said almost the same thing about Morphine. He was in the hospital for some procedure or an accident (can't remember exactly), they gave him Morphine for pain and he said he had zero pain relief. They gave him more, and again nothing. This is an old country boy who claims he has no interest in recreational dope at all. The doctors them gave him a shot of Demerol on top of the Morphine, and he said it was almost instant relief. From what I've heard, there are some who just don't experience any effects from pharmaceutical Morphine, but for whom opium will work. Maybe that's just how their chemistry is, or maybe God created the poppy with its complex alkaloid composition for a reason? Who knows? This is not common, but it is a recognized phenomenon nonetheless. Maybe something like Oxy will work much better for such patients, or a formualtion like Pantopon (don't know if it even still exists), which is just a pharmy extract of opium itself. I think I'm going to search around and see if I can find some studies or something about this. I can't imagine not getting any pain relief from Morphine, that's just scary!

[mmnyc9]

I have heard the same exact thing. Morphine would not work but 50 or 75mgs Demerol would do wonders.

[Mokelly]

Now I know what I'll say next time I need some good pain relief at the ER, "Morphine doesn't work on me for some reason Doc" lol. But seriously, that's a phenomenon I've heard of before, not reacting to the morphine that is. Pretty uncommon I guess but at least most Doctors recognize it like GMorris said. The good thing is that people who endure this problem will most likely be getting some much better I.V. shit though!

[mmnyc9]

I think Demerol is given to people who are allergic to Morphine. Or can't take Morphine based Drugs.

[exitwound]

Originally Posted by mmnyc9

I think Demerol is given to people who are allergic to Morphine. Or can't take Morphine based Drugs.

That's one of the first choices in the arsenal. I would say, based on my mother's (who has an even stronger enzyme mutation gene than I, making her very intolerant of most opioids) recent experience as she battled Pancreatitis and then major surgery to repair her organs:

*Mepergan (combination of Meperidine aka Demerol, and Phenergan - an anti-nausea antihistamine which also potentiates most opiates slightly)
*Fentanyl
*Dilaudid

[THEPAINTER1960]

Originally Posted by mmnyc9

I have heard the same exact thing. Morphine would not work but 50 or 75mgs Demerol would do wonders.

Now i am just the opposite i can take all the mepirdine you have orally. And man it does nothing to me. Now I.V. was a different story i could feel it but nothing like slamming a nice 100 ms-contin. To me , my personal feeling is demoral is not for me. See ya.

[mmnyc9]

It's amazing how so many people react differently to the same Opiates even the same dosage's. I believe it has something to do with individuals endorphin receptors or the Endorphin itself. Depressive type personalities probably the best example. Some people might be born with the ability to process these chemicals in a effective or ineffective way.

[ontario_opiophile]

Demerol seems to be alot stronger than morphine for me. I don't like demerol though, but taking 6-7, 50mg Demerol's would knock me unconcious and have me choking on my own tongue. And that much morphine wouldnt do much. I remember once I had a huge bottle of demerol 50's and I brought them on a church camping trip lol. I got fucked up every night and snuck away and smoked cigarettes under the stars. And no one was the wiser. lol. Oh good memories. I tried to sniff some demerol when i was up in algonquin park on that camping trip and it burnt like a motherfucker. Don't ever sniff demerol it's awful! it's like sniffing pennicillin it's evil. And don't ask me how i know! lol

[THEPAINTER1960]

Originally Posted by ontario_opiophile

Demerol seems to be alot stronger than morphine for me. I don't like demerol though, but taking 6-7, 50mg Demerol's would knock me unconcious and have me choking on my own tongue. And that much morphine wouldnt do much. I remember once I had a huge bottle of demerol 50's and I brought them on a church camping trip lol. I got fucked up every night and snuck away and smoked cigarettes under the stars. And no one was the wiser. lol. Oh good memories. I tried to sniff some demerol when i was up in algonquin park on that camping trip and it burnt like a motherfucker. Don't ever sniff demerol it's awful! it's like sniffing pennicillin it's evil. And don't ask me how i know! lol

yes i can attest to that sniffing demerol is awfull. But i can never forget these pills we used to obtain when we could;nt get anything else. they were called talwin and one day i chewed one up. I almost died. What an awful taste. I
wil never forget that taste. But i dont know man i used to get 60 of the 50millagram demerol and i would take 5 to 10 orally and not feel anything that great to write home about. Yet if they were taken i.v. so-so. Different people different effects.

[psychotiKK]

Originally Posted by Mokelly

Now I know what I'll say next time I need some good pain relief at the ER, "Morphine doesn't work on me for some reason Doc" lol. But seriously, that's a phenomenon I've heard of before, not reacting to the morphine that is. Pretty uncommon I guess but at least most Doctors recognize it like GMorris said. The good thing is that people who endure this problem will most likely be getting some much better I.V. shit though!

Wait.. what? What's better then IV morphine? IV hydromorphone? IV Fentanyl. I wouldn't know, I've only IVed tar H, but I have an idea of what might be better then the other. Morphine given IV is supposed to feel like H, but still not as great. I hear hydromorphone is extremely euphoric, but I know jack shit about it. Hydro = hydrocodone morphone = morphine I know it's not a straight up cross of morphine and hydrocodone, but I'm guessing it would be like vicodin except much more potent, more euphoric, and can be used IV. I thought oxymorphone would be the same way too. If I'm wrong please correct me because I have no idea whats true. Where did the morphone come from?

[insaneike]

Yes, big time.

I'm also on clonazepam too. 1-3mg daily depending from day to day. I get 60, 1mg a month now. I was on 3mg a day till i got on narcotics.

I ahve a slipped disc, and i also have to have rods put in my back. My surgery is o the 2nf of next month.

later

[TicTacSuicide]

I usually don't take ms contin because it doesn't get me high, but yes, it does kill the pain. If your looking to get high off of it, try something else. But by your condition it sounds like you just want something to kill the pain and ms contin should do.