Ms Contin: Snorting vs.sublingual ingestion?

[NARKOS]

Which would provide the longest high, snorting(intranasal) or sublingual(under the tongue)? I have 30 mg MS Contins. I have been snorting half of a pill crushed but the high doesn't seem to last very long. Oral consumption lasts 8-12 hrs, too long for me too do anything important. Smoking in a vaporizer seems to work, but there is NO drowsiness at all(but my pupils pinpoint so i know the morphine is being ingested properly)? Any ideas anyone? addition: I also take 0.5 mg of klonopin daily for panic attacks, and have noticed that my pupils stay pinpointed for long periods of time when snorting the pills.Any reason why?

[Bad Monkey]

Have you tried to seperate the morph from all the crap,this will leave you a more potentent yeild,thus allowing you to do much more with it.I think snorting this 'freebase' will have the desired effect.

But what I'm not sure of is how long the buzz will last.That is the controlled release is due to a compressed of the tablet?or morf thats geneticly modifyed strain designed to last longer.

[jab]

My vote is neither.

MSContin is best either orally, as scripted, or IV. Sublingual will not defeat the time matrix. Snorting is horrible, as it doesn't beat the time realease matrix, and once in contact with nasal liquid will gel up in your nose; making you lose some of the precious goods.

Oxycontin is good insuflated, but not MSContin. Good luck.

[Paregoric Kid]

morphine is a complete waste taken orally. from the studies I've read on sublingual morphine administration it seems that most people end up swallowing the morphine solution instead of having most of it be absorbed sublingually. so if you can snort the brand of morphine you have go ahead. IV is the best and plugging is just as good as an IM injection, so I've read.
some brands are a pain in the ass to break the time release. kadians are the best extended release I've seen, you just crush the beads to break the time release mechanism.

[GMorris]

Of the two or three different brands I've encountered, all of them were perfectly snortable, and I enjoyed them just as much as an IR. If they are crushed VERY fine, it will defeat some or most of the timed-release mechanism in my experience. Of course, everyone is different so I say give it a try and if you don't like it, try some other way. Now as for sublingual, I have serious doubts that it will do much good. I've held the IR's in my mouth for a period of time, but the biggest problem I have is that I'll salivate so much that I end up with a mouth full of spit and have to swallow it eventually. Unless someone makes a formulation specifically for sub, it's not likely to be very efficient, and especially with the MSContin!

[exitwound]

What about crushing an MSContin, dissolving the powder in water (or in the case of the Endo mscontin, it becomes a sustained-release gel that only releases a little faster than the tablet does when solid), and plugging?

Since the Endo version I get doesn't fully dissolve in water, does rectal administration make any sense? Will the increased absorption level make up for the potential lost intake due to not being able to keep the gel in contact with the intestinal lining for its full dissolution time?

[ontario_opiophile]

Snorting is a fucking waste. I haven't snorted for years but when I was younger I used to rail shit all the time and it didn't work very well. In my opinon, oral administration is better. The amount of drug that gets wasted up the nose is too much. It always sticks to the nose and clumps up or goes too far and goes directly down your throat, orally. I just don't like it. But it seems to work well for other people so who the fuck knows? Also, the taste is shitty. I don't like the drip at all. The only drip I was ever fond of was a cocaine drip. Cocaine stands alone because it has an anesthetic effect on the nose and throat, thus giving you no shitty taste. I hate cocaine but god I have fond memories of the drip. I just can't imagine railing an MS contin or MS instant release. I just dislike the feeling you get in your nasal/throat area. I don't mind the taste of pills sublingually, I just dislike the taste when it's went up my nose. Most of the shit you sniff up your nose ends up dribbling down your throat anyways so I don't really see the points of going the nasal route. I prefer oral to sublingual but I don't mind sublingual, I think it's pretty cool. Everyone has their own preferences though, none of the routes of admin are wrong. I wonder if there is any routes of administration that we haven't talked about. There must be some weird shit. Like Subpenile lmao. Or vaginal. Oh god..imagine that.

[bogumil]

Voted for snorting but only cause I had to choose one. I snorted the IR and the crushed long times and I have the feeling that the long times are working better when snorted. But somehow it makes me only tired.

[alowishus]

Gotta brown those boys!!!

Waste waste waste!!!! I hate waste, and to do anything else is a big waste.

[exitwound]

Originally Posted by alowishus

Gotta brown those boys!!!

Waste waste waste!!!! I hate waste, and to do anything else is a big waste.

Will an MS Contin absorb well rectally compared to orally? Will the Endo variety, which gel up effectively no matter how well finely crushed, really stay in contact with the anal mucosa long enough for that to make sense?

[alowishus]

Swim says so....worked fine for him. He had the NAAP brand which would do the same (jell up) he just added more water.... you don't want a gooy mass

I think you'll get a couple of "here here's" from people around here on this one.

Necking is just so wasteful even if you use tag and/or grapefruit.

[God_Albino]

my tolerance is too high for oral/snorting to do any good, but i can never get the trick to work on beating the gelly.

i thought i finally got it right last time, i got the shit to one side, but it ended up gelling back up any way.

i hate wasting them, but until i can get a clean shot out of one whatre you gonna do

[duck]

I've never had any brand of extended release morphine that was anything but absolute hell to snort. My nose still feels weird every once in a while from this one time I snorted a MS Contin 100. Will never do that again.

People always say it's a waste to eat it, but I have gotten off quite nicely from eating the Avinza 120's, MS Contin 60s and MS Contin 100's.

[Poppylvr]

Originally Posted by exitwound

Will an MS Contin absorb well rectally compared to orally? Will the Endo variety, which gel up effectively no matter how well finely crushed, really stay in contact with the anal mucosa long enough for that to make sense?

Wipe the coating off the pill & let it dry.
Grind the ms contin to a very fine powder, add water.
Then plug that baby! If you use the search engine here you will find an excellent thread on how to plug drugs, and ms contin really absorbs best rectally. At your drug store you can purchase a 5 cc syringe with a soft silicone tube designed to give babies medicine by mouth. Trim the tube length down and this makes a world class plugging device.
Enjoy.

[ka11ink]

Originally Posted by Paregoric Kid

morphine is a complete waste taken orally. from the studies I've read on sublingual morphine administration it seems that most people end up swallowing the morphine solution instead of having most of it be absorbed sublingually. so if you can snort the brand of morphine you have go ahead. IV is the best and plugging is just as good as an IM injection, so I've read.
some brands are a pain in the ass to break the time release. kadians are the best extended release I've seen, you just crush the beads to break the time release mechanism.

Is there any difference between kadian and avinza, I've yet to find any.