my experiance w/urd

[Chicago]

1rst it takes a few says to negoiate a price & go over all forms, b/c they need to no all the drugs you have ever used in your life. How much op's you take & what kind b/c they need 2 no how to plan out the procedure.

Day 1. B4 you go into the hospital, they want you off all drugs, so they rx you 1 days worth of meds.
30 10/325 norco's
5 pills 2mg clondine
3 tabs of levsin for the stomach
2 caps of 30mg temezpam B4 bed.

Day 2. You have to be at the hospital B4 7a.m. to ck in, then they bring you up to the bed. By 10a.m. the Dr. comes in w/a counsler to tell you how its gonna go down, how you gonna feel afterwords,how long it's gonna take.
During day 2. the Dr. makes a chart for you after taking notes on your addiction. By noon you are done w/all Dr's b/c they are doing procedures 2 a day.

So now you deal w/the nurse's. So they try to find a vein, put you on a morphine drip,no button just drips till day 3, as well as getting i.v morphine every 5hrs. They also give you a clonodine patch b/c takes 2days to kick in, then as in meds they give you valium 10-20mg 4-5 threw out the day, 6mg ativan 3x day. Now the shitty part, the nurse stands buy you & watches you drink a cup of laxative 2x on day 2, so you can get most of your bowls out b4 the procedure. Then b4 bed they give you some strong sleeping meds?4got

Day 3. At about noon they bring you down to the i.c.u. where they preform the ultra rapid detox.Stopping all opiates at 8a.m. To the point. They make you put just a gown on now. When the Dr. came in at 4p.m. to start, the anasthealogist(sp)shoots you up w/a turkey baster of white shit, burns like a fucker, out in less then when I started to yell that fucken burns was the last I remember.
While you are out the nurse puts a diaper on you b/c when you w/d, well we all no what our stomachs & bowls do. Then a tube down your throat for when you vomit.
Now remember this a 7hr procedure, which they are putting a month of bad nasty w/d into 7hrs so it takes a toll on your body.
I wake up at about 2a.m. so it's early day 4. WOW I felt shitty & shit did come out my ass as well I hit the buzzer so they come clean my bed & wipe my ass, walk me to the washroom, but I already went in the bed, oh well, dude said to me shit happens lol, do not worry at all, even though I was embarresed.

Day 4. Dr. number 2 comes in & says to me or shows me on a chart that I just went from 1 month of heroin meth detox to about 2 days of the last of the month.

After this they started to give Naltrexone pills 50mg, I took it for 1 day after that ONLY b/c I was not ready, this was my 1rst detox, anyway they wanted me to stay in the i.c.u 1 more day but I just couldn't knowing I could keep shitting on the bed & puking.
So as weak as I was I pretended to be ok, so w/me convinceing them I can go back to the hotel & promise to come back 2morrow 2 ck back in w/Dr.

Day 5. I felt just like I was in w/d w/out any anxiety & sweats, which is great but my back/legs was in can't even describe the pain. When I went to the bathroom it smelled so bad I was puking while shitting, weak as can be made it to the hospital on the next day, told Dr. How I felt he said it will be about a weak B4 I will sleep or even start to feel better, but the opiates are 97% out of my system. To take home gave me some meds, catapress (clonodine) patch, 12 caps 30mg temezapm, levsin for stomach.

Day 6 Walked into my crib puked on the floor all green, then had my lady have 5 bags waiting for me, starting w/only 1 bag b/c they said I was opiate free. I did all 5 in a hr got CRAZY ENERGY & WENT TO TACO BELL.
This is what got me off 105mg of meth & 15bags a day. I kept w/the heroin but never w/back to meth THAT SHIT IS A KILLER.
THANX.

[I'm-Nod-Addicted]

Day 6 Walked into my crib puked on the floor all green, then had my lady have 5 bags waiting for me, starting w/only 1 bag b/c they said I was opiate free. I did all 5 in a hr got CRAZY ENERGY & WENT TO TACO BELL.


This is what got me off 105mg of meth & 15bags a day. I kept w/the heroin but never w/back to meth THAT SHIT IS A KILLER.

Well that answers the question i was going to ask- ha ha ha!


Good call on the Meth...I've never tried that junk...thank god.

[mark_renton]

Thanks for posting this man! I always wondered how this worked, and though I have never wanted to quite if I ever did I sure the hell wouldn't go with this method.

[I'm-Nod-Addicted]

What did it cost? 'bout 10 G's?

[Waismann]

Rapid detox is medicine and is as good as the dosctors that practice. This is not the way it should be done, and is absurd to keep a patient aunder anesthesia for so long..
In most cases this is how its done...
The Waismann Method of detoxification Under Anesthesia utilizes the most advanced medical technique available for opiate dependency. We have the highest success rate in the country.Patients are treated with the highest level of professionalism, dignity and respect. We are located in Orange County, So California; where we receive patients from all over the world weekly.

Day 1
The procedure takes place in a full service hospital to provide the close monitoring and access to additional medical services or specialists that may become necessary. Patients are admitted the day before the procedure for a complete medical evaluation including history, physical exam, and blood work to evaluate kidney and liver function. Patients also have a Chest X-Ray and an electrocardiogram, and may undergo an exercise stress test if indicated. Patients are instructed to stop taking all opiate medications, and are then started on the Waismann Method pre-medication protocol. Medications are given to prevent or relieve the symptoms of withdrawal, and during this day patients also receive an intravenous infusion of morphine through a PCA to prevent withdrawal symptoms. Additional medications are used to lower the acid content of the stomach and also to blunt the adrenalin or adrenergic response to withdrawal.
It is imperative that patients spend 24-48 hours in-patient so pre-medication can be properly administered to stabilize body functions which help to achieve a smooth and safe procedure.
Day 2
Patients are transferred to the intensive care unit (ICU) to provide close monitoring. Once patients are appropriately sedated and pre-medicated, they are put under anesthesia for 60-90 minutes, and an acute withdrawal is precipitated with medications to block the opiate receptors in the brain while the patient sleeps comfortably. This medically induced withdrawal is controlled and closely monitored by either Dr. Bernstein or Dr. Lowenstein, both Board Certified anesthesiologists who are nationally recognized for their expertise in the use of the Waismann Method. During the anesthesia, patients feel no discomfort, and have no memory of the acute withdrawal once they awaken. After they are awakened from anesthesia, they are closely monitored by one on one nursing staff for the rest of the day and night. Patients are treated as necessary for withdrawal symptoms or discomfort. Most patients feel groggy and experience some mild discomfort after detoxification. Our medical staff is specially trained to ensure patient comfort and safety before and after the detoxification procedure.
Upon awakening, the patient is no longer physically dependent on opiates and has no conscious awareness of experiencing the withdrawal process during the procedure.

Day 3
Patients are transferred from the ICU back to the medical floor where they continue to recover from the withdrawal procedure, receive intravenous fluids and regain their strength. Patients are encouraged to get out of bed and walk and to resume eating regularly. Physicians assess the patient readiness for discharge. About 65% of patients are ready for discharge by the afternoon of Day 3, either to Domus, an aftercare facility, or to their home with a family member.
Day 4
Is for patients who require additional medical care, which have underlying pain issues or other medical conditions that may require a longer supervised recovery The Waismann Method protocol is designed based on each patient individual medical and dependency history. The pre evaluation and assessment are imperative to the success of the procedure. We will not discharge patients until they are medically stable and able to leave the hospital.
Patients are monitored under our care at our hospital to stabilize their mental and physical condition. Usually patients are discharged at least 24-48 hours or when authorized by our physicians.

We are proud to offer our patients the best medicine has to offer for opiate dependency . The major difference between the Waismann Method and other medical detoxifications is the safety, comfort and success of our patients.
Every patient has a different medical and dependency history, and we treat them as individuals with specific needs. Our doctors will not treat a patient with out at least 24 hours of observation, pre-medication, and pre-examination. Pharmaceuticals are the main tool used to achieve the desired result; we need to understand how each patient react to medications, so we can use the appropriate ones to safely achieve our goals of detoxification.
Different doctors in the US have tried this procedure in surgery centers or even offices in order to save on costs. Consequently safety standards are saved as well, compromising results and well being of patients.
The Waismann Method includes a 6 week follow up with a therapist that can be done in person or by phone. Is a great way to help the patients deal with life on life's terms and to have support going back to life without the narcotics.
The cost for the Waismann Method of detoxification is $15,800. In this cost is included 4 days inpatient in the hospital with all the description above.

Clare K.
310-2050808 Office
310-9277155 cell

[GoddessofRATs]

Wow, i had no idea how they did this. I mean, i knew the basics but not exactly how they do it. I'm not sure I'd want to go threw that, even though YOU don't feel the w/d, your body remembers everything. Seems like it would be traumatizing on a subconscious level ya know.

Anyway, that's pretty interesting.

GOR

[Chicago]

Well claire, Dr.Bernstein was 3hrs late but no biggie,
2nd I was sent home back to the hotel from the i.c.u. after 5 bags of saline to hydrate me.
3rd. I think his name was eric, who came to my hotel was a great guy, the one who worked at a health club, but this I went threw at your place at '99, you told me I can have it done in cali or in Israel where there was a war going on, done by your brother I think?

4th the way you described it sounds great, but not how it works b/c YOU HAVE NEVER WENT THREW THIS HAVE YOU.
5TH SINCE I WAS IN SUCH PAIN AT THE hotel you guys even paid for a streatch limo to get back to LaX. B/C YOU GUYS DID NOT KEEP ME THERE MORE THEN 24HRS AFTER MY PROCEDURE, STILL HAVE MY PAPER WORK. YOU TOLD ME ON THE PHONE WHEN THIS IS DONE YOU WILL NEED NOTHING NOT EVEN A PATCH BUT BERSTEIN RX'D ME 2 OF THEM?
WHY?

I HAD BARGNED W/YOU FROM 12 GRAND TO 9GRAND BUT W/HOTEL & AIRFARE WAS COSTING ME 10GRAND. EVERY TIME I CALLED FILLED OUT THE PAPERS I USED A DIFFERENT NAME & FINALLY GOT FROM 12 TO 10 GRAND.
WHY YOU PAY LOWENSTEIN IS ? ALL HE DID WAS MAKE A CHART TO SHOW ME WHERE I WAS AT.
THEN YOUR 90210 PYC DR. SPENT 5 30MIN SESSIONS OVER THE PHONE, WHICH DID NOTHING.
THIS IS WHAT I WENT THREW & HOW I FEEL.

YES I DID THIS AT ORANGE COUNTY HOSPITAL W/BERSTEIN, KOOL GUY. & @ THE WEISMAN INST.
SO AS I SAY, B/C I WENT THREW THIS, I WAS VERY SICK & UNCOMFORTABLE. NOT WORTH THE 15 GRAND WHICH IS ALOT HIGHER THEN BACK IN '99. STAFF WAS GREAT, NICE NURSES.

BUT UNTILL YOU HAVE WENT THREW THIS, PLEASE TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS.
LAST OF ALL, THERE WAS A GUY FROM THE BRONX NY, IN MY HOTEL WHO ALSO COMPLAINED ON HOW HE WAS IN ALOT OF PAIN AFTER THIS.

SO SINCE WRITTEN WHAT YOU HAVE CLAIRE, & I WAS DISCHARGED LESS THEN 24HRS FROM WHEN I HAD MY ULTRA RAPID DETOX, DID YOUR STAFF MAKE A MISTAKE, & WOULD GIVE ME ANOTHER TRY FREE OF CHARGE, B/C SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS MADE A BIG MISTAKE W/ME.

I CAN FAX OVER ALL THE PAPERS SHOWING WHEN I GOT IN & WHEN I WAS DISCHARGED.
LESS THEN 24HRS AFTER MY PROCEDURE, WAS IT A MISTAKE BY WHO?
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PM ME PLEASE DO OR YOU CAN POST A REPLY ON HERE.
B/C THE WAY YOU EXPLAINED HOW IT'S DONE, & THE WAY YOU GUYS DID IT FOR ME, SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A BIG BOO BOO HERE. HAVE ALL PAPERS TO PROVE YOU GUYS DID ME DIFFERENT.

Also your nurse in the i.c.u told me that they had to hold my legs down b/c they thought i was gonna have a seizure, the kicking was that bad she told me?

Originally Posted by Waismann

Rapid detox is medicine and is as good as the dosctors that practice. This is not the way it should be done, and is absurd to keep a patient aunder anesthesia for so long..

Originally Posted by Waismann

In most cases this is how its done...

The Waismann Method of detoxification Under Anesthesia utilizes the most advanced medical technique available for opiate dependency. We have the highest success rate in the country.Patients are treated with the highest level of professionalism, dignity and respect. We are located in Orange County, So California; where we receive patients from all over the world weekly.

Day 1

The procedure takes place in a full service hospital to provide the close monitoring and access to additional medical services or specialists that may become necessary. Patients are admitted the day before the procedure for a complete medical evaluation including history, physical exam, and blood work to evaluate kidney and liver function. Patients also have a Chest X-Ray and an electrocardiogram, and may undergo an exercise stress test if indicated. Patients are instructed to stop taking all opiate medications, and are then started on the Waismann Method pre-medication protocol. Medications are given to prevent or relieve the symptoms of withdrawal, and during this day patients also receive an intravenous infusion of morphine through a PCA to prevent withdrawal symptoms. Additional medications are used to lower the acid content of the stomach and also to blunt the adrenalin or adrenergic response to withdrawal.

It is imperative that patients spend 24-48 hours in-patient so pre-medication can be properly administered to stabilize body functions which help to achieve a smooth and safe procedure.

Day 2

Patients are transferred to the intensive care unit (ICU) to provide close monitoring. Once patients are appropriately sedated and pre-medicated, they are put under anesthesia for 60-90 minutes, and an acute withdrawal is precipitated with medications to block the opiate receptors in the brain while the patient sleeps comfortably. This medically induced withdrawal is controlled and closely monitored by either Dr. Bernstein or Dr. Lowenstein, both Board Certified anesthesiologists who are nationally recognized for their expertise in the use of the Waismann Method. During the anesthesia, patients feel no discomfort, and have no memory of the acute withdrawal once they awaken. After they are awakened from anesthesia, they are closely monitored by one on one nursing staff for the rest of the day and night. Patients are treated as necessary for withdrawal symptoms or discomfort. Most patients feel groggy and experience some mild discomfort after detoxification. Our medical staff is specially trained to ensure patient comfort and safety before and after the detoxification procedure.

Upon awakening, the patient is no longer physically dependent on opiates and has no conscious awareness of experiencing the withdrawal process during the procedure.

Day 3

Patients are transferred from the ICU back to the medical floor where they continue to recover from the withdrawal procedure, receive intravenous fluids and regain their strength. Patients are encouraged to get out of bed and walk and to resume eating regularly. Physicians assess the patient readiness for discharge. About 65% of patients are ready for discharge by the afternoon of Day 3, either to Domus, an aftercare facility, or to their home with a family member.

Day 4

Is for patients who require additional medical care, which have underlying pain issues or other medical conditions that may require a longer supervised recovery The Waismann Method protocol is designed based on each patient individual medical and dependency history. The pre evaluation and assessment are imperative to the success of the procedure. We will not discharge patients until they are medically stable and able to leave the hospital.

Patients are monitored under our care at our hospital to stabilize their mental and physical condition. Usually patients are discharged at least 24-48 hours or when authorized by our physicians.

We are proud to offer our patients the best medicine has to offer for opiate dependency . The major difference between the Waismann Method and other medical detoxifications is the safety, comfort and success of our patients.

Every patient has a different medical and dependency history, and we treat them as individuals with specific needs. Our doctors will not treat a patient with out at least 24 hours of observation, pre-medication, and pre-examination. Pharmaceuticals are the main tool used to achieve the desired result; we need to understand how each patient react to medications, so we can use the appropriate ones to safely achieve our goals of detoxification.

Different doctors in the US have tried this procedure in surgery centers or even offices in order to save on costs. Consequently safety standards are saved as well, compromising results and well being of patients.

The Waismann Method includes a 6 week follow up with a therapist that can be done in person or by phone. Is a great way to help the patients deal with life on life's terms and to have support going back to life without the narcotics.

The cost for the Waismann Method of detoxification is $15,800. In this cost is included 4 days inpatient in the hospital with all the description above.

Clare K.

310-2050808 Office

310-9277155 cell

[Duckfeet]

I should have let you know, that this is a *hugely* controversial topic on here, more so even than it used to be...but it's legit...have at it....I know I google around, and have heard stories...sure haven't heard many positive ones, tho everybody wishes it were true. hell, even the "medium slow" detoxes, like the 21 day one, rarely work, and this one is controversial as hell...but again, all those who have had *positive* experiences with fast detox, oughtta post...I know I paid five grand for a really nice sounding medium slow detox, combined w/oxycontin and all kinds of nice stuff...but once it was over...it was over... :-)

[EleusisII]

I remember reading an article where they interviewed a doc that did these. (Not anything credible like the Weisman method. Just an asshole doc who did the whole thing in a hotel) He said that part of the huge cost, is to make addicts know that addiction has a price.

I know. What the fuck?!?

Anyways, it seems like a good option, if the only thing holding you back from quitting, is wds. And if you can afford to blow 15 grand just like that.
Because all you pay for, really is to be free of those four days of hellish wd's. (If someone would give me 15 grand to go through really bad wd's I'd probably do it. But that's just me)
The hard part is to stay clean, as everybody here can attest to.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Originally Posted by Duckfeet

I should have let you know, that this is a *hugely* controversial topic on here, more so even than it used to be...but it's legit...have at it....I know I google around, and have heard stories...sure haven't heard many positive ones, tho everybody wishes it were true. hell, even the "medium slow" detoxes, like the 21 day one, rarely work, and this one is controversial as hell...but again, all those who have had *positive* experiences with fast detox, oughtta post...I know I paid five grand for a really nice sounding medium slow detox, combined w/oxycontin and all kinds of nice stuff...but once it was over...it was over... :-)

I agree with you Duckfeet. And yes, this is a hugely controversial topic. Very interesting none the less.

[Waismann]

You had your treatment in 99 that is almost 10 years ago . A cardiologist does not have to have a heart attack to know how to treat a patient. So I don't think is a fair comment to say I don't know what I am talking about until I go through it.
As I mentioned this is medicine, and as with all medicine there is a progression in treatment protocol. When you did it the procedure probably lasted 6 hours now we are able to do it in less then 2 hours to minimize the risks.
Regarding you leaving to a hotel room, we have understood through the years that most opiate dependent patients need extra time to adapt to "any" discomfort of the transition...How much discomfort will be determined not just by the procedure outcome, but by the physical and mental state of the patient. We all handle things with different intensities. We offer our patients that best available medicine for dependency, but at the same time with give them respect and dignity. The cost has gone up and so as what we offer...Hopefully one day will be able to get the financial aid to help all patients ...

[Chicago]

BUT WHAT YOU GUYS DID FOR ME IN LAST MONTHS OF '99. IS NOT EVEN WHAT ALL THE PAPER WORK IN THE PACKET PROMISED ME. I CAN FAX THIS TO YOU, HAVE ALL THE PAPER WORK. I CAN GIVE YOU MY NAME & YOU WILL SEE MY PROCEDURE WAS DONE WRONG. WHY DID YOU GUYS APPOLIZE & GET ME A LIMO & TRY TO UPGRADE MY TICKETS, BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIABLE.
JUST THINK IF YOU DID A PRO BONO OF ALL THE THOUSENDS OF PEOPLE YOU CAN GET AS CUSTOMERS OFF THIS SITE, JUST THINK. THATS ALOT OF PEOPLE/
I JUST THINK I SHOULD HAVE GOT WHAT PROMISED, YOU WOULD TO CLAIRE, MY FAMILY DIPED INTO THERE SAVINGS, BROKE TILL THIS DAY.
I JUST WANT WHAT I SHOULD HAVE GOT & I DID NOT, EVEN IF YOU CUT THE TIME DOWN OF THE URD, U LET ME GO BACK TO THE HOTEL FROM THE I.C.U. 12HRS AFTER THE PROCEDURE ALONE, WEAK & VERY SICK.

Originally Posted by Waismann

You had your treatment in 99 that is almost 10 years ago . A cardiologist does not have to have a heart attack to know how to treat a patient. So I don't think is a fair comment to say I don't know what I am talking about until I go through it.
As I mentioned this is medicine, and as with all medicine there is a progression in treatment protocol. When you did it the procedure probably lasted 6 hours now we are able to do it in less then 2 hours to minimize the risks.
Regarding you leaving to a hotel room, we have understood through the years that most opiate dependent patients need extra time to adapt to "any" discomfort of the transition...How much discomfort will be determined not just by the procedure outcome, but by the physical and mental state of the patient. We all handle things with different intensities. We offer our patients that best available medicine for dependency, but at the same time with give them respect and dignity. The cost has gone up and so as what we offer...Hopefully one day will be able to get the financial aid to help all patients ...

[Chicago]

ALSO WANTED TO SAY IF YOU WOULD BE GREAT ENUFF TO GIVE THIS ANOTHER GO THE CORRECT WAY, I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO MOVE TO ANY REHAB FACILITY ANYWHERE IN THE U.S.
JUST TO SHOW EVER ONE OF THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IF THIS IS DONE CORRECTLY IN YOUR WAY...AS YOU STATE IS THE CORRECT & MOST EFFECTIVE METHOD WOULD WORK, LETS SHOW THE PE0PLE.
I WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES IF THIS IS DONE CORRECTLY THIS TIME.
THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME ON THIS SITE FROM ALL OVER & READ THIS, WHO TELL A FREIND WHO TELLS A FREIND,WHO TELLS ANOTHER EXC, WITH USING ME & TELLING I AM WILLING TO DO ANY & ALL REHAB AFTER THE PROCEDURE IS DONE & BRINGING & POSTING ALL MY RESULTS UP, YOU WOULD MIN TRIPLE YOUR 2008 YEAR JUST ON THIS SITE.
ALL I WANT IS TO GET WHAT I WAS TOLD & BY EVEN READING THE PACKET YOU SENT ME DAYS BEFORE THE PROCEDURE OF DIRECTIONS & EVEN THE AFTER CARE, THIS IS NOT WHAT I GOT CLAIRE.
JUST THINK OF WHEN SOMEONE GOES FOR OPEN HEART SURGERY, THAT IS WHAT THEY EXPECT, EXAMPLE EXPECTING A TRIPLE BYPASS & ONLY GET A DOUBLE OR EVEN WORSE A SINGLE BYPASS, IS WHAT I FEEL HAPPEND FOR.
SO PLEASE FEEL WHERE I AM COMMING FROM, WAISMANN DID THIS, AND THAT IS WHO I PAID, DON'T YOU THINK I SHOULD GET WHAT IS EXPECTED.
THINK OF WHAT THIS CAN DO FOR THE WAISMAN INSTITUTE IN MANY WAYS.

Originally Posted by Waismann

You had your treatment in 99 that is almost 10 years ago . A cardiologist does not have to have a heart attack to know how to treat a patient. So I don't think is a fair comment to say I don't know what I am talking about until I go through it.
As I mentioned this is medicine, and as with all medicine there is a progression in treatment protocol. When you did it the procedure probably lasted 6 hours now we are able to do it in less then 2 hours to minimize the risks.
Regarding you leaving to a hotel room, we have understood through the years that most opiate dependent patients need extra time to adapt to "any" discomfort of the transition...How much discomfort will be determined not just by the procedure outcome, but by the physical and mental state of the patient. We all handle things with different intensities. We offer our patients that best available medicine for dependency, but at the same time with give them respect and dignity. The cost has gone up and so as what we offer...Hopefully one day will be able to get the financial aid to help all patients ...

[Chicago]

THIS WHAT YOU REALLY TYPED CLAIRE, THE REST OF THE STEPS ARE SOMETHING YOU POST ON ALL WEB SITES B/C I CHECKED THIS OUT, THIS IS WHAT YOU TELL PEOPLE IN CORRECT MEDICAL TERMS & ALSO ON A INDETAIL RECIPE KINDA POSTED IN ALOT OF PLACES.
SO IN YOUR OWN WORDS JUST LIKE THE BOTTOM PART I HAVE UP REALLY IS IN YOUR OWN WORDS.
SO PLEASE GET BACK TO ME OR ALL OF US @ OPIOPHILE.ORG IN YOUR OWN WORDS ON WHAT HAPPEND.
IN WHAT YOU WROTE BELOW IN YOUR OWN WORDS, IS AS GOOD AS IT'S DOCTORS THAT PRACTICE.
YOU ALSO MENTION THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN...
IT WAS THE WAISMANN INSTITUTE DID MY ULTRA RAOID DETOX, SO IF THAT IS WHAT YOU SAY & IT IS AFACT YOU DID TYPE THIS, PLEASE EXPLAIN B/C THIS SMELLS REALLY FUNNY AFTER RE READING YOUR POST. I THINK WE ALL @ OPIOPHILE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THIS? IS THIS A ADMITED MISTAKE?

[quote=Waismann;216605]Rapid detox is medicine and is as good as the dosctors that practice. This is not the way it should be done, and is absurd to keep a patient aunder anesthesia for so long..

In most cases this is how its done...

[Chicago]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WAISMANN DID THIS FOR ME?

[quote=Waismann;216605]Rapid detox is medicine and is as good as the dosctors that practice. This is not the way it should be done, and is absurd to keep a patient aunder anesthesia for so long..