Morphine Injections after Suboxone?

[chopstix]

Insomnia is what pushed me back into steady dope use, in spite of a benzo script. Nothing makes me sleep like opiates do..

[mikells43]

and the only reason it threw him into w/ds is cause he did not have suboxone in him before that. so the key to shooting subxone successfully without causing w/d is to simply take one or a few the right way before u do it, not that i would do it, i have needle phobia.

[Duckfeet]

I'm happy for you Saint. After a while, I too, thought your're switchover wasn't working, and you held on longer than I could have, but I know being on methadone so long has problems. I worry about the same things, and also have passport, and love to travel freely, and am hoping one of my private docs will give me methadone pills for pain, so I'll backup, as I so want to go back to Nicaragua, and also want to travel again in Europe.

In any case, like others, I appreciate so much that you honestly were willing to give us your log of experiences making the attempted switch to subs, from methadone. Didn't work for me either, and I paid a few thousand to a clinic, who eased the transition with a week of oxys, but I too am back on methadone, and, of course, my hope is to be on heroin maintenance some day, but as I get older, I fear it may not happen, and need to make the best of this...

All the best to you!

Originally Posted by Saint

And yes, both build up in your system. I still must have had 0.75 mgs of buprenorfine in my blood 150 hours after taking my last dose of 12 mgs subuxone. Maybe more because I was on a higher dose a few weeks before that.
It's my third day on methadone now (well, seventh but 3 since I can actually feel it) and although on the same dose I feel some difference (a good side-effect is that I almost stopped taking any benzo's completely: I finally get some good sleep now that I'm on methadone again)

[Dirtyrockstar]

i like experiements especially the ones where swim gets to use.

hypothesis: you can enjoy morphine despite the presence of subbies in your blood.

on the 21st at 6pm SWIM has 12mg of suboxone IV. no negative effects, no real euphoria once the pot wore off, some mild sedation no longer noticable the next morning.

skip ahead 48hrs. based on 37hr (maximum due to IV administration) half life max sub level in blood would approximate 4.3334 mg. this could be different tho based on some study i read that says when your body becomes accustomed to subbies the half life can drop as far as 20hrs notwithstanding individual anomalies.

the 23rd at 6pm SWIM has 120mg of morphine. SWIM nods in and out til 4am.

conclusion: of course you can.

thankyou for listening i hope you enjoyed this as much as i did.

[mikells43]

i had 4mg of dialudid in the er 10 hours after my last sub dose and it was around 8mg . and felt nothing.... i had a kidney stone , so i really needed pain killing action. but the bupe blockaide did it . next day. got some msir pills and took 2, no releif, so went back on subutex lol. everyones diff in how ur body processes it. i dont want to get high eather so i really dont worry about that...

[Frank Zito]

I took a half an 8mg. subbie around 1 this afternoon and TOTALLY wasted 2 4mg DILLIES later on in the evening. Banged the Dills around 9 p.m. and felt VERY little. The sad part is that I KNEW better but I boogied down anywayz. Stupid, stupid.

[laudaphun]

Originally Posted by mikells43

i had 4mg of dialudid in the er 10 hours after my last sub dose and it was around 8mg . and felt nothing.... i had a kidney stone , so i really needed pain killing action. but the bupe blockaide did it . next day. got some msir pills and took 2, no releif, so went back on subutex lol. everyones diff in how ur body processes it. i dont want to get high eather so i really dont worry about that...

As much as suboxone has improved the quality of my life, it's things like this in the back of my head that make me wish to get off of daily dosing, or at least reduce my dose. I don't think I'll ever be able to get by without having some suboxone around.

[mikells43]

i think of it like this, if theres something thats going to happen its going to happen. i have no control over anything but my own self. i can handle anything as long as im clear minded , and if something bad happens ill handle it when it comes by. if i really needed more releif then i would have did something else but there was not that much pain, i was just being a bitch. ill taper off someday but today i dont need too im great, and subutex has improved my life too but i can't owe it all to that,, it took alot of work by me to change too.

[Dirtyrockstar]

gotta leave that gap depending on dosage but 48hrs is usully pretty safe, 60hrs just to be ever safer, but thats just me, please dont let swims experiene lead to the wastage of precious precious dilly's