The ultimate sub guide!

[pulp90]

i'll go to to my doc for subotex tomorrow thanx for your post it's very usefull

[lister40]

So from what I am reading here, I can take a 50mg dose of loperamide if I'm on suboxone and not experience precipitated withdrawal? I guess that makes sense because I've blasted through the blocking effect with other opiates before.. I was worried I would have PW, but I just realized that lope is basically the same as other opiates.. (obv not as abused and the whole BBB stuff, but it's still an opiate.) I'm going to experiment with a 50mg dose.. I've had some diarrhea lately and wanted to take some lope but though I'd have PW.. I also want to try it to see if it gives any type of "synergy" high or anything interesting if I'm on Subs.. The first few big doses got me high but after 2 or 3 days I didn't feel it.

[Goldmund]

What about a kratom habit and starting or trying to get high from bupe/subs?? Must you wait as long???

[noahzark]

Doctors will tell you that one needs this drug when addicted opiates for at least 6 months or forever. It is a LIE, created for them to make money off of you.

My story.

I was able to use opiates every day for 9 years. I started with OXY but the person who had these dies in an automobile accident and then I only got them once in awhile. I then found a person with access to a "special doctor" who would give huge prescriptionsof of Morphine 100 MG pills and Instant 30's. I would get about 200 to 300, 100 MG time release morphs and maybe 100 30mg instant release pills per month from her. She had AIDS and Hep C and was still an active heroin addict and in addition to this was in a methadone clinic and the doctor did not care or know.

I never missed one day of"getting high or straight". My method of choice was chewing this pills, some brands work better than others but I was addicted.

I had a few periods where because my girl friends would ask me why my eyes were always closing or to enhance sex that I would taper off down to about 200 MG a day but 90% of the time I was into it. During this time I also had another friend who had dilaudid 4 mg and I would bang those I would do this 3 or 4 time a year with a bottle of 100 or two on a binge. Toward the last few years being in Chicago and knowing people who wanted what I had traded, me pure or as they said uncut H. It was hard tan or brown chunks. Often it was too strong to bang. Snorting was enough. I passed out on the floor many times.

You get the drift.

A "best" friend snitched on me for my thing which causes me to acquire in Illinois what they call a class "X" felony which I have been fighting for a year. My lawyer has a bench trial scheduled because the assistant DA wants me to go on vacation for 6 to 30 years for weed only no guns.

I had to get clean and started reading the ultimate sub guide. The first time I went into withdraws was the 13 days I was in Cook County jail for a year ago. They give you some crap drugs if you admit to being addicted but it still messed me up.

Of course feeling sorry formyself when I got bailed out I had a huge binge. Then when I knew the timing of the whole thing I went to a clinic and was honest with them. I decided to be my own doctor. They wanted to give me the 8 MG files and said I had brain damage from the drugs and needed 6 months to a year to get off of these Subs but I insisted on only the 2 MG films and got my way.

It took 6 MG to get me out of horrible withdrawals the first morning it was pure hell. After I felt "normal" I even went out to dinner with my girl friend no lie. She is as strait aS it gets and noticed no difference in me.

The second day for a week I took 2 MG of Sub film a day and feel "normal". After that week I cut the films in half and did 1 MG for 7 days. Right now I am in the middle of one half a MG a day and am doing fine. Yes I cannot sleep well and are addicted to Benzos when I wake up 2 or 3 times a night but it is getting better anddrink almost every night but I have a script for the pills.

Soon I will taper off those because I do not enjoy benzos. I take L-Tyrosine in the morning and HTTP at night too.

Selling you Subs and makingyou take these is a lie for the doctors and drug companies to make money off of"junkies".

To be continued.

[noahzark]

Down to .5 mg a day and feeling "normal".