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    Default What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Does it show up as just Opiates, or will it fall under oxycodone? Or do they even test for it. Also wondering what specific metabolites they test for on the 'opiates' part.

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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Hydrocodone will show as hydrocodone, hydromorphone, or both.

    edit: extremely high concentrations of oxycodone can pop pos on opiate screen. this may be true for hydrocodone but I don't know for sure.
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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    If it's one of those tests that break down the opiates into different classes, it'll show up as Dilaudid, since hydrocodone is a pro-drug (i.e.- not really active on its own) and the liver enzymes (cytochrome P450) will demethylate the 3 position of the Hydrocodone, and thus give you hydromorphone, or dilaudid.

    FYI, if you look at a structure of these, you will see that oxyC or oxyM have an OCH3 at the 14 position, and the hepatic enzymes won't touch that position.

    So long answer short, NO, you'll not drop dirty for Oxycodone if you've been taking hydrocodone, you'll drop dirty for hydroMORPHONE.
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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by dizzle View Post
    If it's one of those tests that break down the opiates into different classes, it'll show up as Dilaudid, since hydrocodone is a pro-drug (i.e.- not really active on its own) and the liver enzymes (cytochrome P450) will demethylate the 3 position of the Hydrocodone, and thus give you hydromorphone, or dilaudid.

    FYI, if you look at a structure of these, you will see that oxyC or oxyM have an OCH3 at the 14 position, and the hepatic enzymes won't touch that position.

    So long answer short, NO, you'll not drop dirty for Oxycodone if you've been taking hydrocodone, you'll drop dirty for hydroMORPHONE.


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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by dizzle View Post
    FYI, if you look at a structure of these, you will see that oxyC or oxyM have an OCH3 at the 14 position, and the hepatic enzymes won't touch that position.
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    -OH @ 14
    -OCH3 @ 3

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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    OMG you're so right!!!!!! I'm sorry! wow, oops!!

    Correction to above post,

    In oxycodone/oxymorphone the 14 position has an -OH, NOT an -OCH3!!!

    however, what I said about hydrocodone, that the 3 has an -OCH3 and then the liver demethylates it to an -OH is correct. Sorry if that caused any confusion.
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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by HeroInMyVeins View Post
    Also wondering what specific metabolites they test for on the 'opiates' part.
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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    On a 10-Panel, you're gonna pop + on the Opi Panel

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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Oddly enough, the only opiate I've taken in the past 2 weeks was prescribed dilaudid.

    I just took a pee test today, and it showed-up positive under the OPI2000 panel??!!??

    I really didn't understand that, I thought that one needed a specific panel for hydromorphone and another for morphine (OPI2000).

    Its a good thing I did that (I was just playing around), but I would have confidently strode-in for a real piss test believing:

    "Go ahead and check for morphine metabolites idiot. I ain't took nothing that makes morphine metabolites for weeks now!"

    There are many ways to go about checking urine, maybe the company that made this test did so to cover: morphine, hydromorphone, codeine, hydrocodone and smack.

    IDK, but I swear it was clearly positive.

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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Once, I had taken an at home 5 panel test with OPI/METH/THC/COC/AMP... I had only taken Oxycodone for the entire month. I showed negative for OPI's. And I know the test was accurate, cuz I popped + for THC, and I had been smokin' to boot.
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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoops View Post
    Once, I had taken an at home 5 panel test with OPI/METH/THC/COC/AMP... I had only taken Oxycodone for the entire month. I showed negative for OPI's. And I know the test was accurate, cuz I popped + for THC, and I had been smokin' to boot.

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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoops View Post
    Once, I had taken an at home 5 panel test with OPI/METH/THC/COC/AMP... I had only taken Oxycodone for the entire month. I showed negative for OPI's. And I know the test was accurate, cuz I popped + for THC, and I had been smokin' to boot.
    Because the Codones do not pop positive in standard 5 panels. More and more places are aware of this though and are starting to add 7 or 10 panel tests.
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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Alright well I'm on Drug Court (intense probation where we are tested like once a week) and I think they use this one http://www.redwoodtoxicology.com/pro...panel-dip.html And I'm just curious what opiates it won't test for. I don't see Hydromorphone on there, but that's the drug I got arrested for you would think they would test for my drug of choice

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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by HeroInMyVeins View Post
    Alright well I'm on Drug Court (intense probation where we are tested like once a week) and I think they use this one http://www.redwoodtoxicology.com/pro...panel-dip.html And I'm just curious what opiates it won't test for. I don't see Hydromorphone on there, but that's the drug I got arrested for you would think they would test for my drug of choice
    You are lucky they dont send it out to a lab. Most drug courts do especially here in socal. What city are you in?
    From that website, it looks like the opiate related tests are BUP, EDDP, MTD, OPI, OXY, PPX corresponding to Buprenorphine, Methadone Metabolite, Methadone, Opiates (Morphine), Oxycodone, and Propoxyphene. I forget if hydromorphone or oxymorphone will test positive for Opiates. Other than those two, you can get away with Fentanyl, Tramadol


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    Default Re: What does Hydrocodone show up as in a 10 panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by havok View Post
    You are lucky they dont send it out to a lab. Most drug courts do especially here in socal. What city are you in?
    From that website, it looks like the opiate related tests are BUP, EDDP, MTD, OPI, OXY, PPX corresponding to Buprenorphine, Methadone Metabolite, Methadone, Opiates (Morphine), Oxycodone, and Propoxyphene. I forget if hydromorphone or oxymorphone will test positive for Opiates. Other than those two, you can get away with Fentanyl, Tramadol
    oxymorphone will come up if you take oxy or oxymorphone since oxy breaks down to oxymorphone. So if they are checking for oxy they are actually looking for its metabolite oxymorphone . So if you take straight oxymorphone (Opana) its comes up as oxy on a drug screen.

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