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    Default Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt? ??

    I am well aware that everyone's body chemistry is different and in no way should my experiences be considered gospel and with that being said....

    I had a bit of a suicidal meltdown back in june and wound up in a psych ward for a few weeks and even though i was still given my normal pain meds 5- 30's a day they put me on 60 mg's of cymbalta as well as 300mg's of gabba 3x a day...

    Now when my chronic abuse of my pain meds resulted in a 2 week period of forced abstinence i noticed i did not get 2/3rd's of the normal withdrawal symptoms... IE, no restless leg, cold flashes and my mood was stable. the latter being the biggest driver towards relapse.

    Even right now i have been over 96 hrs without any opiate at all and i feel fine...

    Well, 70 percent would be an accurate number...

    and as far as pain my neuropathic pain and lower back probs are practically nil.

    If depression during withdrawals is a driving force towards relapse it might be something worth looking in to.

    Maybe it will help some poor schmuck like it is helping me...

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    Lyrica worked really well for my neuropathic pain. Unfortunately, it made me gain 15-20 lbs in only 6 weeks, starting weight of 100 and extremely athletic at the time.

    I spent 13 years on Neurontin prior to that, which did control my pain somewhat but had zero side effects of weight gain.

    Cymbalta, helped my neuropathic pain also, but after 2 years on it, it just stopped working. We tried going up on the dose but it didn't make a difference. So, I had to go off it and that was a nightmare in itself....see he other thread on Cymbalta withdrawal or Google it.
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    I cant say enough good things about neurontin. my neuropathic pain is horrendous at night and before neurontin I was lucky to be able to sleep for an hour or two at most before having to get up for a couple hours then try it all again. now Im able to sleep for at least 3-4 hours before having to adjust positions & I dont ache constantly. on the other hand, lyrica caused horrible swelling in my lower legs & feet so I had to quit taking it after only 1 week.

    I havent tried cymbalta because I had a bad reaction to a similar med so my dr advised against it but Ive heard good things about it when it does work for people with pain and/or depression.

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    Unfortunately, as good as a med as Lyrica is for chronic neuro pain issues, I see trouble ahead for them in sort or another.
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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    lyrica has horrendous withdrawals my father told me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefiend View Post
    lyrica has horrendous withdrawals my father told me.
    Interesting, I didn't have that experience and neither have the patients I can think of, but FUCK Cymbalta, I wanted to die.
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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    Pregabalin and gabapentin both mimic GABA so it's little surprise that there are issues with abstinence syndrome. I would expect them to be similar to GHB in the dependence they can cause. The pharmaceutical development business is dirty and underhand. I'm sure they knew damned well that the stuff was addictive but I'm just as sure that the results got buried to get product to market.

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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    I've heard gabapentin can have terrible withdrawals. Has anyone experienced these?

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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    I take Gabapentin and love the stuff for Opiate withdrawals along with lope works great for a few days , Cymbalta on the other hand was no help at all for me as far as pain. but Gab. is good stuff helps with nerve pain as Tabitha said.

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    I had awful withdrawals from gabapentin when hospitalized for kidney failure. I was miserable as fuck.

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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    I use Neurontin for sleep and for fibromyalgia and it certainly helps with sleep, not as much as I would like, but much better than relying on benzos.

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    I'm on neurontin for nerve pain. I take such high doses and have been for 3+ years that it does nothing for wds. I've tried cymbalta and it did not help at all.


    On several occasions, due to my procrastination, I've had to quit neurontin ct and i've had no wds. The only thing I noticed has a huge increase in nerve pain. neurontin doesn't eliminate all of my nerve pain, but when you start to feel electrical shocks shooting down your legs into your feet/toes, you know that it does help some.
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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    I've heard gabapentin can have terrible withdrawals. Has anyone experienced these?
    As I have said before (probably even earlier in this thread), I was on Neurontin (brand)/gabapentin (generic) for 13 years at fairly high doses for my weight for neuropathy/neuropathic pain.

    I CT'd off of it without any problems at all. However, you can see from other peoples answers, this obviously isn't universal.

    Now, CYMBALTA, THAT was an entirely different story, for me.
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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    I certainly think this is possible, I had a freind (RIP Mike) who used to swear by a gabapentin and doxepin combo, he said they removed 95% of his wd symptoms.

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    Can you clarify this, please?
    I certainly think this is possible, I had a freind (RIP Mike) who used to swear by a gabapentin and doxepin combo, he said they removed 95% of his wd symptoms.

    You are just referring to removing opiate withdrawal sxs and not speaking of Cymbalta and/or Neurontin as an opiate-free way of pain management?
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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    Im with you Lortabitha. I just cant say enough about nuerotin. Im on the starting month of it getting my body adjustedto it before going ro a higher dose. Im on 100mgs 3 times a day and my pain in my legs (especially sciatic nerve) and my arms are almost totally gone! My back pain is still there but id say its also 25% reduced!

    Im excited as all hell to go to 300mgs 3 times a day next month cause i wanna see if it lowers my back pain even further cause honestly that would just be fucking amazing!
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    just a helpful note to anyone who has been scripted 600 mgs gabapentin or more... the 300 mg capsules are about half the price of the 600 mg tablets in equivalent doses ( in other words take 2 capsules instead of 1 tablet if you do not have insurance). I had been getting the 600 mg tablets for about a year before a pharmacist told me about the price difference and it has saved me hundreds of dollars over the last few years.

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    Default Re: Cymbalta And Neurontin... A combo to consider as an opiate free way of pain Mgmt?

    hydrophile quoted:
    .....Im excited as all hell to go to 300mgs 3 times a day next month cause i wanna see if it lowers my back pain even further cause honestly that would just be fucking amazing!
    I would undoubtedly expect greater effects (pain relief, as well as side effects) from 300mgs TID than the 100mgs TID that you are on now! Side effects are definitely dose dependent.

    Just also be careful with changing over as it may make you sleepy/uncoordinated at first. You may want to try and taper up a little, like perhaps at least the first day (one day minimum, if no problems), skip the AM 300mg dose and just stick with your 100mg dose there. Then try the other 2 doses at 300mg and see how you do. Titrate up or back down depending on side effects.

    Remember, some people can go up and down with little to no problems and some may have a much harder time. For example, I was at 100mg TID for approx. 6-9 months, I believe (and that was my third try at the medication!). Just be careful is all I am saying, and if you have any significant problems, call your dr about your dosing.

    900mg per day is still quite a low daily dose (for neuropathic pain), so you have a ways to go with your dose, if necessary!

    Good luck, hydrophile!!
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