Best way to recover

[jook]

Swim makes hydromophone from hydrocodone useing HBR/Boric acid method .What is the best way to recover the Hydromorphone from the solution?

[dizzle]

This guy sounds a lot like icekilla- anybody think this is the same person?

dude,

stop it, no one is going to give you the answers, or spoon feed you.

Fucking read a book, learn about equilbrium points, pH's, mechansims of rxn's, and the answers to most of this shit will come VERY easily.

Don't think opiate chemistry is easy though. It is usually very delicate and a plethora of things can go wrong, easily. Learn EVERYTHING you can about a rxn before you attempt it-
- what are the potential side products?
- when will the rxn (if ever) go to completion?
- get MSDS on all reactants, and products
- Read, re-read, then run a dry run of your rxn.
- for example, if you are trying to hydrogenate something, well, learn the process, learn what is happening on a molecular level, on a electron/proton level. Electronegativity essentially drives most reactions. Try hydrogenating something easy first, (think double bonds), and remember to try and check for a reaction. Either via loss of pressure in your hydrogenation vessel (like the hydrogen is getting used up) or learn a way to check for a reaction- like alkenes cause Br2 water to go from orange-ish to clear

shit like that. You'll NEVER get anywhere if you plan on everything going right along the way. You need to know what the fuck is going on before you try this shit, otherwise when something is a BIT off, or there's a contaminent in there, you'll be lost and end up with no product or (potentially worse) hurting yourself or your "drug test-pilot"

[Opiofiend]

Swim makes hydromophone from hydrocodone useing HBR/Boric acid method .What is the best way to recover the Hydromorphone from the solution?

Yea, get opana.

[dizzle]

Yea, get opana.

hydromorphone ≠ opana

opana= OXYmorphone

dilaudid= HYDROmorphone

Not to mention, getting the oxyM from the new opana's is probably pretty tough stuff.
I'd imagine lots of acid/base chemistry with N.P/OH pulls/washes, that would get you there, i'd imagine.

[Opiofiend]

hydromorphone ≠ opana

opana= OXYmorphone

dilaudid= HYDROmorphone

Not to mention, getting the oxyM from the new opana's is probably pretty tough stuff.
I'd imagine lots of acid/base chemistry with N.P/OH pulls/washes, that would get you there, i'd imagine.

Yea, I actually knew that. In my rush to be a smartass, I mixed up dilaudid(hydromorph) with Opana(oxymorph). Either way, my point was to just get the meds you want, and fuck playing at being walter white.

[jook]

Damned ifino who walter white is but damn .I have searched the forum for info i can;t seem to find .I have a few dozen patents that list all sorts of ways to get what i want.They all use different chems and was hopeing someone would point me in the right direction so i do blow my m0ney on the wrong chems.One that looked good used Acetonitrile/Etoh do get desired product but as stated don't want to waste money on the wrong stuff.Someone point me in the general direction and i can take it from there.I know a good bit about chemistry but maybe not the organic side of it .I was hopeing to get on this site and did.Got a few good pointers and then this .Not pissed just kinda discoraged.I thought the idea of a forum was to help eachother.Am I wrong?