Watson 3576 80MG... Anyone know anything about these?

[durden]

I've googled and found only the most basic info, and a search of the forum yielded zero hits... Weird. I seem to have come across what must be a slightly more obscure pill.

Sounds like they are morphine sulfate extended release 80mg... Anyone know the scoop on the ER system on these? Is it defeatable in any way? I tried to crush the small pellets inside the capsule with a metal spoon, but they really just sort of flattened out and wouldn't get down to powder to snort. I'd really love to bang them, but insufflating would be better than nothing... Just really don't wanna resort to having to eat them.

Perhaps letting them soak overnight in water like the old Opana ERs would work?

[Doublewire]

The safest and most efficacious way to use it would be to plug it. I don't believe morphine has much of an intranasal BA–as far as I know, rectal is the best short of shooting them, which is inherently dangerous.

[durden]

The safest and most efficacious way to use it would be to plug it. I don't believe morphine has much of an intranasal BA–as far as I know, rectal is the best short of shooting them, which is inherently dangerous.

Yeah that sounds like the smartest way... Getting past the ER without having to worry about the ER crap traveling along. Is a 12hr soak pretty much the accepted standard for these, too?

[StackBundles]

Well... Google tells me they are ER's. I would treat them like a Kadian. They are preppable to get a clean shot, but it is a semi-hassle. If that is the route you are looking to go, I will fill you in on the safest way to prep them.

You don't need a 12 hour soak, just a pill grinder, a needless syringe, and a regular rig.

[blackman]

I agree with StackBundles man. Treat them like kadian.

Crush the pellets as best you can (it's pretty easy). Dump the pellets and powder into a spoon. Do an initial wash and a second rinse and try to put both solutions in the same rig and you should have >65mg in the shot. Maybe more.

Hope everything works out.

[durden]

Wow, cool, so you can just wash what comes out of the pellets, filter with cotton and good to go? I figured the ER system was something molecular and a real bitch that would require 12 hr soaks and microwaves and nuclear fission and the other crazy tricks people talk of with these pesky anti abuse systems.

[blackman]

If it's anything like kadian (just another ER morphine with the pellets) then it shouldn't be a problem.

Only one way to find out. For science!

[durden]

If it's anything like kadian (just another ER morphine with the pellets) then it shouldn't be a problem.

Only one way to find out. For science!

Lol...

Poor veins... Sigh.

[Defense34]

"take chances get messy , make mistakes!" i live my life (esp drug and sex life) by magic school bus advice and all it got me was on probation and prob a bastard child in NOLA HAHA

[durden]

Well, just a quick update... I gave this a shot and I don't think I succeeded. Tried to crush them up and give em a couple of washes. Seemed like the water was a little bit syrupy, and slightly cloudy. I shot it, got a little weak in the knees, and have a pain behind my eye (probably random but hopefully not a stroke lol). Anyway, I don't think I'll be shooting many more of these. Probably stick to the safe route and plug. :/

Oh well, ya win some, ya lose some. On the other hand, I did make Opana ER work, injected, once, and that was pretty damn cooool.

[blackman]

Sorry it didn't work for ya man. Although if you're banging opana then I'm not that surprised you didn't get much out of it if you only tried one of the 80s.

[durden]

Good point; though I will say it's been over a year since I did that. My tol is pretty low these days. The opana days were crazy though, hehe. Shame they're crush proof now, or so I've heard.

[StackBundles]

I used to prep Kadians the following using the following process:

I would grind the beads to a dust with pill crusher/grinder.

Funnel the resulting powder into the BACK of a needless syringe, or a regular 1cc syringe that has the need CUT off resulting in a small hole at the end.

Once you have funneled the powder into the barrel, put the plunger into the syringe.

Carefully depress the plunger, compressing the powder into the space of about 15/20 units.

Next, draw 70-80 units of water into the syringe. Vigorously shake for a minute to a minute and a half.

Depress the plunger, forcing all of your liquid out into a spoon.

The resulting liquid will be somewhat milky, but all of the "bead" material will remain pressed into a little pellet at end of your needless syringe.

Draw the resulting liquid into your regular syringe, filtering it through cotton. One or two passes through a cotton usually renders the solution clear....

You are now ready to as safely as possible inject your Kadians.

I hope that this all makes sense. Feel free to ask any questions.

[deadzone]

I used to prep using micro filters but these just don't work like the brand name. It was a white foamy mess. After the micron I did have a nice clean shot but I didn't feel a single tingle and it should have. Sad days.