Also wanted to add that the manufacturer (well at least i think so, it's just the name on the bottle) is that Mallinckrodt (sp?) like someone mentioned before. Now considering that it usually takes me 60-90mg to get a serious "rush" off of injecting, it could very well be, as some of the forum members have mentioned, that it is not suited/intended for IV and therefore not as active/potent through the vein.
BUT, there are other factors to consider. What I use, best to my knowledge, is PURE, 100% Methadone Hydrochloride in liquid form, from a pharmecutical company (Mallinckrodt), called 'Methadose'. 30mg would be fine for a rush (and whats noteworthy is that 30mg has been plenty potent in the past for me), i just happen to like the way 60mg and, sometimes, 90mg feels better.
Also, I usually wait about a day between IVing (due to a lack of any more 'done of course/I carry only a few times a week) and everytime, on that other morning, is heaven. I can't really think of anything else contributing to it's efficacy (or lack of)...
All I can say is that when it comes to anyone knocking the injection of methadone, I guess that it is because of a few (following) factors:
- A) they are misinformed and/or unexperienced in the procuring and proper preping + injection of a methadone solution that is intended for IV (a solution that is, just simply, pure methadone hydrochloride liquid),
- B) they have their preference/opinion against it's use for whatever reason (typical phrases/reasons they use: methadone is more active orally, it's metabolized slowly when taken orally (24-36 hrs) therefore better for the recovering addict [i happen to agree with this, even though oral ingestion isn't my MO], it's not active/nearly as potent IV, it's just a bad idea no matter how you do it, etc... blah blah). pretty much all accurate accounts, but basically all bias too. this is typical mentality of anyone who is serious about their methadone maintenance or is trying to recovering from abusing heroin, dilaudid, oxycontin, lortab/hydro/vicodin, etc. While I'm not against their message (in fact i tend to agree with it), I'm also not completely in favor of it. I still enjoy getting "high" when i can, especially if I can do it legally and cheaply.
- C) they have had bad experiences with it (though this is more or less the reason/factor/people that fall into A). They're pretty much victims of unfavorable circumstances and/or addiction-driven (stupid) behavior (which might separate them from A group simply for A's implied ignorance... though ignorance can also influence this group, but in a different way. [i.e. injecting anything BUT pure methadone hydrochloride liquid, expecting smooth sailing and a nice high, being rudely awakened and having suffered a crappy experience, and subsequently writing all forms of methadone injection off]).
PHEW. that was more than a mouthful, but I think I've touched on the basic points of all the negative feedback methadone injection has received in this forum. But, do not misunderstand me; I'm totally against injecting any sort of Methadone that comes in pill form, or strangely colored and/or odd liquid consistency, for the most part. Pure methadone can be separated from it's pill form, but it's not an easy process and seems like more trouble than what it's worth (especially at lower dosages)... but I suppose if it's done right, i'm sure it could be injected and enjoyed properly. Just not for me.
Again, methadone can be enjoyed IV (i'm about to enjoy it right now), but don't expect it to be easy going when trying to find a supply source that is cheap, legal, and proper (as in providing the right form of it to inject). I'm just lucky, FOR NOW. I'll ride it out as long as I can. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy the ride and maintain my status as the envy of the opiophile methadone message forum. :cool: