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    Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    Figured I'd see if anyone else shares my experience when dealing with xanax in the two most common forms (err shapes).

    Heres the thing with me, quick sum-up:

    I usually take .5-1mg Xanax almost always in the "football" shaped small pills...but pretty often I'll get ahold of some white 2mg "bars" -generics on both-

    When I have the 2mg bars I always break them in half for my usual 1mg dose, and I get much better anxiety relief, and an overall "calmer, warmer" feeling than when I take 1mg in the "football" pills (usually 2 x .5mg orange ones, but sometimes the 1mg pill).

    The effects are always so different it's almost like they are two totally different drugs.

    I am confused as to why it's not the same since its the same mg and the same drug either way...

    Weird eh?

    I just wondered if anyone has the same experience with this and/or any related thoughts on the topic.

    Thanks for reading!

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    Im going to have to agree with you. I take
    about 1mg a day as well. Sometimes 2mg.
    A bar always has me feeling better than 2 footballs.
    Cant explain it but i feel ya

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    same exact thing here...fuck them foolzballz gimme da barz B)

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    Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    much appreciate the responses, glad I'm not alone on this... may the good bars be with us!:wink:

    I'm still open to any other comments/ideas on this "phenomenon"

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    It could just be that psychology plays a big part in tolerance (and it does.)

    Could also be that the two forms are somehow formulated differently in a way that affects bioavailability/absorption. I've heard this enough about various different forms of various different things that I imagine that, at least in some cases, there must be more to it than just the psychological difference...but who knows.

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    If each 1mg football is 15% off and only has .85mg in it, the two of them would only have 1.7mg. Remember the propagation of errors.
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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    placebo.
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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    I have fairly severe anxiety issues that date back 10+ years.

    I was getting turquoise colored generic BARS or LADDERS and they left me hungover as hell.

    My old pharmacy, (big chain) sold yellow bars and I awake feeling great. I've never had the brand name, just generics.

    I take 2 MG before bed every evening. It keeps even keeled all day.

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    Always seems to be a debate on what generics are better than others, what brands, etc.

    They are all the same. I doubt anyone can tell they took .87 versus .97mg.

    The bars are just more popular for some reason and command a higher street price.

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    It's pretty much impossible for an FDA-regulated pharmaceutical product to differ by that large of an amount anyway. Even a difference of a few % is very, very unlikely, and would be the result of a single batch error that would probably, as far as I know, be a big deal and lead to a recall. Generic manufacturers are absolutely not allowed to arbitrarily produce a generic equivalent for say, 1 mg xanax that only contains 0.87 mg, or even 0.97 mg of alprazolam. They're called equivalents for a reason, and for certain drugs, that big of a difference could potentially be dangerous.

    It is possible, however, that if the pills originated from an online pharmacy, they could be something other than what they're supposed to be.

    It's got to be either a psychological factor, or a difference in formulation that makes one form more readily absorbed than another, and even that isn't super likely.

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    I had a doc once tell me that since a 2mg bar is bigger that even thiough the pill has been thoroughly mixed, sometimes the strength of the pill is not evenly distributed. so if you break a 2mg "bar " in half you may not get exactly 1 mg per half. It mostly could be cooncentrated in only one portion of the bar. He also told me that the bars have some sort of "time release to them unlike the footballs.
    I dont think this is true, but this was some eally old doc that told me these things. I dont think he correct though on the time release, but I can see the bars not being exactly 1 mg per half.

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    personally i thought the round bars or "wagon wheels" were the best

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    Thanks for all the feedback guys, pretty interesting responses...with the exception of the simple "placebo" response,
    no offense but I think you could swim around this entire forum tossing around that generic response. I mean, I didnt start taking these things yesterday...it's definitely not just in my head.
    I am constantly able to repeatedly test this scenario, and it has had this effect everytime...every single time.

    I feel like the bioavailablity/absorption responses probably have the most logical thought behind them. Also, the bars dont command any more "street" value per mg than any of the others 'round here, if anything you can work out to get more mg for your money with the bars.

    Also, on the split bar theory...I get the better effect with both halves, so I dunno about that.

    Anyways, thanks again.

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    Yeah i love the white wheels, I think I get more feeling out of them. Little stronger generic maybe? I like to mix match and get half bars and half circles and comparing the buzz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqfchair View Post
    It's pretty much impossible for an FDA-regulated pharmaceutical product to differ by that large of an amount anyway. Even a difference of a few % is very, very unlikely, and would be the result of a single batch error that would probably, as far as I know, be a big deal and lead to a recall. Generic manufacturers are absolutely not allowed to arbitrarily produce a generic equivalent for say, 1 mg xanax that only contains 0.87 mg, or even 0.97 mg of alprazolam. They're called equivalents for a reason, and for certain drugs, that big of a difference could potentially be dangerous.

    It is possible, however, that if the pills originated from an online pharmacy, they could be something other than what they're supposed to be.

    It's got to be either a psychological factor, or a difference in formulation that makes one form more readily absorbed than another, and even that isn't super likely.
    I thought generic drugs were allowed a 15% variance, give or take? Surely, none of them would ever want it to get out that their product is 15 % weaker than a name brand product (especially where potency is an issue).

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddragon3668 View Post
    I thought generic drugs were allowed a 15% variance, give or take? Surely, none of them would ever want it to get out that their product is 15 % weaker than a name brand product (especially where potency is an issue).
    has anyone ever posted a source verifying that? I know its been debated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkin View Post
    personally i thought the round bars or "wagon wheels" were the best
    me too the round mylans are my favorite every other mylan benzo i hate tho, i eat just about every kind of xanax except the .25s and im partial to different generics but size doesnt matter i feel the same eating 8 peaches as i do 2 bars or 4 blues( FYI in philly if u say blues it means xanax not roxis)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylercwxzy View Post
    I like to mix match and get half bars and half circles and comparing the buzz.
    I wish I could compare the buzz, I can take 2mg or 8 and not tell you which one I've taken I've been on high doses for so long, stupid.

    Generic manufacturers are absolutely not allowed to arbitrarily produce a generic equivalent for say, 1 mg xanax that only contains 0.87 mg, or even 0.97 mg of alprazolam.
    I always thought they were allowed somewhat of a variance as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolofinell View Post
    I wish I could compare the buzz, I can take 2mg or 8 and not tell you which one I've taken I've been on high doses for so long, stupid.
    I always thought they were allowed somewhat of a variance as well.
    I feel you, when I got back on subs (which I need to find a different doc already because mines a quack.) I slowed down, because i was taking 10-12mg a day of xanz. I weened myself down abit then took a 2 week break. I still have a tolerance but it takes about half as much to get a nice benzo buzz. Try a few day break maybe if you can? Unless you'll w/d.
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    I am not sure on the drug formularies, but I have always noticed differences in the different generics in different dosages especially where xanax is concerned, not so much with other drugs. Could it have something to do with the fillers they add? I am sure different peoples body chemistry plays a role here, and I would be almost positive some of it is psychsomatic. Even as has been shown here it seems to be a matter of personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaxie View Post
    Candyman, here in the south, if you ask for blues, you're going to get valium. Funny how it's different elsewhere, I would have never known that.
    thats funny Smaxie...here in my part of the south if your talking blues, your talking blue watson 10 hydrocodones

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    I get prescribed the 1 mg blue "footballs", while a friend of mine gets prescribed the 1 mg green "footballs" (just different generic versions of the exact same thing), and my friend who gets the green ones swears up and down that they are "WAY more potent" than the blue ones I get. I think they feel pretty much exactly the same (as they should).

    As for bars- doctors around here do not prescribe bars for some reason. I know a ton of people with xanax scripts, and they are ALL footballs. Not sure why. Come to think of it, I haven't even SEEN a bar in at least 5 years; and the last ones I did see came from out of state. I've also gotten the blue round Mylan generics (just for one refill- wasn't my usual pharmacy), and didn't notice any difference (that I can remember, anyway) from the footballs.
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    thats funny Smaxie...here in my part of the south if your talking blues, your talking blue watson 10 hydrocodones
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    thats funny Smaxie...here in my part of the south if your talking blues, your talking blue watson 10 hydrocodones
    Haha, yeah around here, "blues" could mean Valium, Xanax footballs, 10 mg Vikes, 15 mg Morphine, or Roxis... You REALLY have to make the person specify when they say they can get "blues" around here.

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    it's been ages. I only used to get the bars. But from what I remember, the ones with the gg were better then the ones with the single G. There can be a slight difference in potency in different brands. Most people probably barely notice.

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    I got some round 1mg from Walmart and liked the blue footballs better.. I guess everyone is different, I found some green footballs I bought and they were the best. Just can't find a pharmacy that carries them.

    As for the bars I got some yellow ones and they were pretty good.

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    Interesting...in the phunny pharm where I work we give the bloo footballs- when we use xanax which is ONLY when someone comes in already prescribed it.
    Otherwise we use ativan IM for fast short action or clonazepam for long smooth action.

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    Have to agree with the majorty here, also for me 1 brick will grab me more than 2x tabs?

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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    didnt read all posts, but I have to agree with OP, seems like footballs are a bit weaker than half a bar. very weird. Like I can take 2 1mg pills and it doesnt seem to hit me anywhere near like how one bar would hit me. weird shit... been like that for a while so i know its not an "off batch" of something. . .
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    Default Re: Xanax "Bars" vs. "footballs" (aside from different mg dose)

    Quote Originally Posted by seven10kids View Post
    didnt read all posts, but I have to agree with OP, seems like footballs are a bit weaker than half a bar. very weird. Like I can take 2 1mg pills and it doesnt seem to hit me anywhere near like how one bar would hit me. weird shit... been like that for a while so i know its not an "off batch" of something. . .
    Thanks, looking back I should have ran a poll on this topic, didnt realize so many people who be interested enough to give their thoughts....seems pretty split on peoples thoughts about this.

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