Swim has some Opana ER....

[nick]

Please try soon I'm really want to know what happens and I guess I'm not the only one.
P.S. Glad you're safe and well at home.

[nick]

Please try soon I really want to know what happens and I guess I'm not the only one.
P.S. Glad you're safe and well at home.

[moviebuff927]

Okay (just researched this a little bit and found some disturbing information),

The brand name new Opana ER's have a new time release feature unlike the MS Contins or OxyContins, or their generic counterparts. It's called "TIMERx" and silicified microcrystalline cellulose. In other words, it's harder than the Contins to get into liquid form and also has a form of SILICA microcrystalline cellulose in it! Silica is EXTREMELY bad for your veins and EVEN WORSE for your lungs. Silica inhalation in and of itself (even snorting) could be dangerous! I don't really know what silicified microcrystalline cellulose is, but if it has silica in it, it can't be good. This is all in the prescribing information:

http://opana.com/pdfs/Opana_ER_PI.pdf

I'm guessing that this product has been formulated very dangerously for intravenous injection. It's almost like they want you to hurt or kill yourself if you try and inject this pill. It blows my mind that they go to these extreme (and expensive) lengths to try and hurt people trying to get high off of this pill! I don't know if this was their own decision (Endo Pharmaceuticals) or the FDA required this because of the extreme abuse potential of this extreme opiate. I have never tried oxymorphone, but if it's anything like the codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone wave, it would have to be better than hydromorphone and that's hard to imagine. Almost like a rush more intense than heroin or hydromorphone and twice as dangerous. Anybody ever had Numorphan IV in the hospital? Just wondering if this oxymorphone gives a rush when IV'd greater than hydromorphone.

I'd hold back on injecting until further research is done. This is a new product and a new time release feature...

[moviebuff927]

Here's an article on the different water holding capacities of microcrystalline cellulose, and silicified microcrystalline cellulose:

http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/11297898

[vaxn8]

SWIM has had some of the shittiest of the generic MS Contins: generic Ethex 15mg morphine sulphate controlled-released and yet this same method had me RUSHING from a 15 mg generic MS Contin pill and I have an unbelievably high tolerance! Be careful if you have the 200's, 100's, or even the 60's!

So I just used my own common sense and my knowledge of opiates and injecting. I posted a thread the day this site got hacked and I haven't seen it on here since. I thought maybe the pill manufacturers read that way and said "we gotta shut this shit down and never let the shit get out". I'm telling you, just try it.

The morphine thing is really strange, what do you consider an "unbelievably" high tolerance? 15 mg of morphine straight from a pure vial wouldn't do anything for me, I don't see how you could get that much out of one pill, unless 15 mg is a lot for you or you were talking about more than one pill.

I don't think the method is going to work on these. Every description I have read about the opanas describes gel, not wax. It sounds much more similar to the Endo MS and other endos that gel. It's a nice method for the waxys though! This question could be answered by checking on the inactives in both endo products. I know the endo MS are tough to get working.

That was pretty funny about the site going down when you posted your method, there were a couple of cases where people thought similar things.

Okay (just researched this a little bit and found some disturbing information),

The brand name new Opana ER's have a new time release feature unlike the MS Contins or OxyContins, or their generic counterparts. It's called "TIMERx" and silicified microcrystalline cellulose. In other words, it's harder than the Contins to get into liquid form and also has a form of SILICA microcrystalline cellulose in it! Silica is EXTREMELY bad for your veins and EVEN WORSE for your lungs. Silica inhalation in and of itself (even snorting) could be dangerous! I don't really know what silicified microcrystalline cellulose is, but if it has silica in it, it can't be good. This is all in the prescribing information:

http://opana.com/pdfs/Opana_ER_PI.pdf

I'm guessing that this product has been formulated very dangerously for intravenous injection. It's almost like they want you to hurt or kill yourself if you try and inject this pill. It blows my mind that they go to these extreme (and expensive) lengths to try and hurt people trying to get high off of this pill! I don't know if this was their own decision (Endo Pharmaceuticals) or the FDA required this because of the extreme abuse potential of this extreme opiate. I have never tried oxymorphone, but if it's anything like the codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone wave, it would have to be better than hydromorphone and that's hard to imagine. Almost like a rush more intense than heroin or hydromorphone and twice as dangerous. Anybody ever had Numorphan IV in the hospital? Just wondering if this oxymorphone gives a rush when IV'd greater than hydromorphone.

I'd hold back on injecting until further research is done. This is a new product and a new time release feature...

I'll have to check out the two to see what the difference is in the time-release. You are correct about the silica, not good to be inhaling or injecting. For every time release though, there's a way to release it, just needs some work and further research, nothing's impossible.

I haven't tried them yet, not sure if I would switch to them if asked. If forced to switch, I would definitely be putting in some serious research time on them!

[dorje]

I have IV oxymorphone when it was known as Numorphan or Blue Endos. The rush is better than Dilaudid. Movie Buff-I'll bet Endo has done the microcrystalline job. They lost a lot of $ and reputation when they had to pull Blue Endos from the market. They have designed OPANA to be unshootable. Anyone know how to seperate microcyrtalline silica from the pills ? Fractional distillation ? Nuclear resonance imaging ? Bleach ?

[devilsdrug]

i hope to contribute to this soon as i have passed on the info so friend can tell his doc yea i said tell cause thats how he has it the fucker but all his old fents are mine, they just wont give them to me all at once which is prolly good idea currently he gets dis

[BigWaves]

Okay (just researched this a little bit and found some disturbing information),

Anybody ever had Numorphan IV in the hospital? Just wondering if this oxymorphone gives a rush when IV'd greater than hydromorphone.

I'd hold back on injecting until further research is done. This is a new product and a new time release feature...

Definitely, this Opanaâ„¢ is a potent motherfucker. Problem with something this strong is what it must do to your tolerance. If one ran out they'd need a handful of percocets to provide a desired effect or even worse, adequate pain control. It could ruin a man for anything less. I used to know the rough estimate-oral oxymorph was something like 10-12x that of [oral]morphine, and dilaudid is about 8x right? Risky bizness.

Kinda scares the shit out of me...but being a degenerate junkie, I still want to try it like all hell. Get "halfway to Elvis" & wander around Downtown Vegas [bat country]

Treasure those babies tho. They'll probably get yanked off the market like Palladoneâ„¢ ("Dilaudid-contin") after a few overdoses come in. It's so unfortunately inevitable. I'll give it less than 12 months. Maybe there's a Vegas line on that.

Enjoy...BE CAREFUL!

[BigWaves]

Okay (just researched this a little bit and found some disturbing information),

The brand name new Opana ER's have a new time release feature unlike the MS Contins or OxyContins, or their generic counterparts. It's called "TIMERx" and silicified microcrystalline cellulose. In other words, it's harder than the Contins to get into liquid form and also has a form of SILICA microcrystalline cellulose in it! Silica is EXTREMELY bad for your veins and EVEN WORSE for your lungs. Silica inhalation in and of itself (even snorting) could be dangerous! I don't really know what silicified microcrystalline cellulose is, but if it has silica in it, it can't be good. This is all in the prescribing information:

http://opana.com/pdfs/Opana_ER_PI.pdf

I'm guessing that this product has been formulated very dangerously for intravenous injection. It's almost like they want you to hurt or kill yourself if you try and inject this pill. It blows my mind that they go to these extreme (and expensive) lengths to try and hurt people trying to get high off of this pill! I don't know if this was their own decision (Endo Pharmaceuticals) or the FDA required this because of the extreme abuse potential of this extreme opiate. I have never tried oxymorphone, but if it's anything like the codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone wave, it would have to be better than hydromorphone and that's hard to imagine. Almost like a rush more intense than heroin or hydromorphone and twice as dangerous. Anybody ever had Numorphan IV in the hospital? Just wondering if this oxymorphone gives a rush when IV'd greater than hydromorphone.

I'd hold back on injecting until further research is done. This is a new product and a new time release feature...

Here's the company that holds the patent for TIMERx along with a load of information on the site. Spooky shit. Different kinds of drug "release"; steady, decreasing, and a "burst" variation.

http://www.penwest.com/timerx_profiles.html

[insanesteveo]

Here's the company that holds the patent for TIMERx along with a load of information on the site. Spooky shit. Different kinds of drug "release"; steady, decreasing, and a "burst" variation.

http://www.penwest.com/timerx_profiles.html

that would be a great company to invest in, and its stock is only about 17 bucks a share.

[HeidiW]

I've wondered about Opana's myself . . .
Whoever mentioned the HCI Muriatic or Hydrochloric acid was right. That shit should take care of the gel.
Have you tried breaking down with vinegar? Let me know your results, as me and everyone else I'm sure anxiously awaiting your findings.

[vaxn8]

^ HCl may speed it up, but if you look at the tech specs on their system, just letting it sit in plain water should do it. It's going to take a while for all of it to be relesed, but water is all it takes to get it to start. They actually have some pretty cool pics of how it works.

Also, I think I'd try it without the acid first unless you have some way of measuring pH. The pH is going to change the confirmations and reactivity of the two reagents they are using to make the time release happen. It was really a good idea, but I think they may have either overlooked the obvious or just thought junkies aren't patient enough to wait for it to release in H2O.

[Azrael]

Saline seems to help with a lot of the stubborn type pills like Endo MScontin. When I say it seems to help, I mean it helps the matrix break down better than plain distilled water. Also if I can shoot ENDO Mscontin 100mg pills, than it's gotta be possible to shoot these Opana ER pills, I always heat the powder first, ala crisping, though I don't have it smoke and change color like most people who crisp, as I have no idea how they keep the morphine from turning airborn as smoke. My method yields around 60% of 100mg, which sucks, but it's better than taking morphine orally, that's for damn sure. Sorry to ressurect this old post but I was very curious about opana and though if anyone has any right now this might be some helpful information.

-Azrael

[exitwound]

I'm hoping to come away from my next doc appt. with a script for at least 120 5mg Opana, preferably 120+ of the 10mg. This will be for breakthrough pain on top of Duragesic patches, or barring that, Opana ER. (probably 60mg at a time to start, a 40 and a 20 taken 3x per day)

My primary experiment is going to be plugging them to get added effect since oral bioavail. is so low, and I have no injection experience.