2mg tablets are $ scam

[SubHuman]

Im just posting this just in case for anyone who may not know the actual price difference between the 2mg tabs and 8mg tabs like I didnt when I got on sub a year ago. Im on subutex now but was started on suboxone 2mg tablets. I stayed on the 2mg tabs for months until hearing from someone they were on the 8mg tablets and they cost 8$ each. I was pissed, the 2mg tablets cost 4$ each so I was paying 16$ for the same 8mgs. I remember my first 16mg/day sub script from the doctor I almost had a heart attackk, it was almost 800$ and the bastard could of saved me 400$ if he just wrote for the 8mg tabs but I was naive to the price difference at the time. I had him switch me over to the 8's when I found out but man I could of saved a lot of money if I had found out sooner. Now thank god I only pay 3.50$ per 8mg tab of subutex and take half a day, $1.75 a day to stay well isnt bad at all, now if only I could go every 2-3 months Id be set.

[Fat Pie]

We just pay a set charge of £7.40 for every prescription here in the UK (on the NHS, at least).

[SubHuman]

Yes I know its better over there, you also get free methadone maintenance right? Id have to/will have to pay 320$ + a month to pay for the methadone clinic, but I dont care as soon as I get some more income Im 99% sure that Im going to be switching to methadone, it will be worth the extra cost to me as buprenorphine hasnt cut it for me for awhile. There was a brief period of maybe two months maybe a bit less where I had experienced what I would call another "honeymoon phase" and the sub was helping my cravings, it was when I had gotten on 'tex and got stable on low dosing. I had minimal cravings compared to usual and was even getting a "glow" by spacing my doses out by at least 12 hours and not dosing over 2mgs but that has faded and Im feeling like I have the majority of the time Ive been on bupe, not sick physicaly but I still feel like shit.

[No Looking Back]

sorry to hear. I couldnt imagine doing this without some kind of insurance. shit my co-pay is $30 no matter how many subs I get. Just told my sub doc I dropped down from 6mg to 4mg a day (in reality taking 2mg/day), and the monthly script still costs $30.

[Snoops]

I've kept an eye on your posts, as far as the bupe' maintenance is concerned. And as an individual that has done the 'done to death. I gotta say.

Its the whole, grass is greener on the other side theory...

Cuz I'm on this side of the fence, wishing that I could jump on over to your side.

Then when I really think about it. Well its maintenance bro.

There is no 'extended' honeymoon phase.

There is no such thing as a "glow" or "buzz" or "high" once you've reached a stable dosage.

And I hate to throw rain on your parade dude. But MMT aint no day at the beach.

What, with all the hoops, and the everyday adventure of reaching 'said clinic 7 days a week...

Oh yeah, and you will be granted one 'carry home dose, every Blue Moon and when Mercury happens to be in retrograde.

That means long intervals of earning the trust of a counselor (whom by no means will understand the concept of addiction, at least IME) at your mandatory sessions together.

And that's only if you've been a good little boy. And didn't toy around with ANY narcotics or stims of the like.

I envy those whom can afford, or are afforded the ability to level out on subs or 'tex.

Just seems like a whole lot less hassles. And you have more creative control over your meds (skipping doses for the weekend thing, *cough* diversion *cough* helpin out a friend in need) you know, that kinda shit?

But then, I'd probably just end up outta shit way before re-up day. Or my shit would get lost or stolen. Or some other type of grand catastrophe would occur.

Story of my life.

I guess I'm just trying to warn you of the potential pitfalls and red tape, when it comes to comparing MMT to Bupe Maintenance.

But in the end, maybe it just ends up the cheaper deal. And in the end its all about your bottom line (Hell, I get my MMT paid for thru Medi-Cal, they don't pay for Bupe) Good luck to you...

[Bricks & Stacks]

as buprenorphine hasnt cut it for me for awhile. There was a brief period of maybe two months maybe a bit less where I had experienced what I would call another "honeymoon phase" and the sub was helping my cravings, it was when I had gotten on 'tex and got stable on low dosing. I had minimal cravings compared to usual and was even getting a "glow" by spacing my doses out by at least 12 hours and not dosing over 2mgs but that has faded and Im feeling like I have the majority of the time Ive been on bupe, not sick physicaly but I still feel like shit.

Stop taking 4mg a day. I do 2-3 bundles a day of good east coast powder for weeks on end then when I get back to subs I takeI 4ish mg as my "induction" back on but after that 4mg makes me feel like shity and crave dope more

[Locke]

I've kept an eye on your posts, as far as the bupe' maintenance is concerned. And as an individual that has done the 'done to death. I gotta say.

Its the whole, grass is greener on the other side theory...

Cuz I'm on this side of the fence, wishing that I could jump on over to your side.

Then when I really think about it. Well its maintenance bro.

There is no 'extended' honeymoon phase.

There is no such thing as a "glow" or "buzz" or "high" once you've reached a stable dosage.

I don't agree with that. But I've only been on bupe maintenance for about 5 months so I'm not exactly the Ken Jennings of this subject matter. I look back at the days of feeding my pet monkey endless amounts of pods, a period which lasted the better part of a decade, and that was more or less maintenance in itself. Sure, tolerance kicked in over time and consequently led to and increase in dosage, but there were at least five years where a stable dose was had, and i learned to do the same thing i'm doing now with the bupe - spacing out doses more, taking a 24 hour break, potentiating with hydroxyzine or carisoprodrol or whatever, getting regular exercise to speed up metabolism, eating a proper diet, dosing on an empty stomach, etc.

Variety is the spice of life. One doesn't have to view maintenance as end endless stream of dreary repetition.

A bunch of shit you said in that post I quoted is dead on though. The grass is always greener indeed. It's so easy to forget about certain things, for instance I rarely reflect on the fact that I used to have to break up my shit with a stick, had a perpetual bloody rectum, and was incapable of achieving a boner all in the name of making that stupid monkey happy.

[SubHuman]

I've kept an eye on your posts, as far as the bupe' maintenance is concerned. And as an individual that has done the 'done to death. I gotta say.

Its the whole, grass is greener on the other side theory...

Cuz I'm on this side of the fence, wishing that I could jump on over to your side.

Then when I really think about it. Well its maintenance bro.

There is no 'extended' honeymoon phase.

There is no such thing as a "glow" or "buzz" or "high" once you've reached a stable dosage.

And I hate to throw rain on your parade dude. But MMT aint no day at the beach.

What, with all the hoops, and the everyday adventure of reaching 'said clinic 7 days a week...

Oh yeah, and you will be granted one 'carry home dose, every Blue Moon and when Mercury happens to be in retrograde.

That means long intervals of earning the trust of a counselor (whom by no means will understand the concept of addiction, at least IME) at your mandatory sessions together.

And that's only if you've been a good little boy. And didn't toy around with ANY narcotics or stims of the like.

I envy those whom can afford, or are afforded the ability to level out on subs or 'tex.

Just seems like a whole lot less hassles. And you have more creative control over your meds (skipping doses for the weekend thing, *cough* diversion *cough* helpin out a friend in need) you know, that kinda shit?

But then, I'd probably just end up outta shit way before re-up day. Or my shit would get lost or stolen. Or some other type of grand catastrophe would occur.

Story of my life.

I guess I'm just trying to warn you of the potential pitfalls and red tape, when it comes to comparing MMT to Bupe Maintenance.

But in the end, maybe it just ends up the cheaper deal. And in the end its all about your bottom line (Hell, I get my MMT paid for thru Medi-Cal, they don't pay for Bupe) Good luck to you...

Im not looking for a glow or a high, if I wanted that I would of never chosen to get on shitty maintenance drugs, Im looking for stability and some craving relief. Feeling like shit everyday isnt what maintenance should be and thats what BMT is to me. Not to mention the whole "cant get proper pain relief" while on bupe and the fact that theres realy not much info/research on long term buprenophine use. I dont like how it says in the pamphlet from reckitt and benckiser you get from the doc when your inducted that buprenophine can cause hepatitis either. Oh and just because I havent been on MMT doesnt mean I havent taken a good amount of methadone, I know what its all about.

[Keystone]

Amen. I get 120 8mg subs for $25. $800 is absolutely outrageous. Maintaining the original habit might even be a better option that dropping almost a grand every month on subs. From reading through the various threads on this matter, I feel as though there are huge discrepancies on what people pay.

Edit: I was trying to reply to NLB's post. Still struggling with the basics I guess haha. This is the first forum/ message board I have ever been a part of. Ultra noob status I guess.

[To Each His Gnome]

I think some meds/pharmacies are just like that for some reason (price-wise, anyways). I was getting #45 1 mg Xanax a month and it cost me $14.74 per script refill. I recently got bumped up to #90 of the same 1 mg Xanax per month, but it only costs me $15.95 to fill the script. WTF? I'm not complaining, of course, but I thought it was quite strange that doubling my script quantity only added $1.21 to the bill...

[Ironic]

I have insurance, but my 2mg and 8mg Suboxone pills do not cost the same as the 8mg did. I don't remember how much it cost, but I think when I was prescribed 4 mg/day and got 8s it was double the price.

Currently, I pay $25 for 30 2 mg pills per month.

[SubHuman]

Yes the 8mg tablets are double the price of a 2mg tablet, but that doesnt mean the 8mg tablets are more expensive per mg. An 8mg is double the price of the 2mg and costs 8$ while the 2's cost 4$ but you are paying 16$ per 8mg tablet if you buy the 2mg

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I have insurance, but my 2mg and 8mg Suboxone pills do not cost the same as the 8mg did. I don't remember how much it cost, but I think when I was prescribed 4 mg/day and got 8s it was double the price.

Currently, I pay $25 for 30 2 mg pills per month.

If I was you since you have insurance Id be telling my doc Im craving bad all the time and worried about a relapse, if you're copay is 25$ a month regardless of how many pills you get then you might as well be getting the most you can to stockpile.

[Ironic]

Yes the 8mg tablets are double the price of a 2mg tablet, but that doesnt mean the 8mg tablets are more expensive per mg. An 8mg is double the price of the 2mg and costs 8$ while the 2's cost 4$ but you are paying 16$ per 8mg tablet if you buy the 2mg

--- auto merge ---


If I was you since you have insurance Id be telling my doc Im craving bad all the time and worried about a relapse, if you're copay is 25$ a month regardless of how many pills you get then you might as well be getting the most you can to stockpile.

Yeah, I want to attempt both a switch to Subutex (I have an IBD, I plan to say maybe Subutex will work better), and a mg increase..however I also want to switch from Temazepam to something else and I don't want to..idk my doctor is cool but it is almost like he experiences information overload. My insurance is awesome and I don't have a copay, otherwise this would really piss me off. I usually get two main points across per appointment (if needed), sometimes only one. He might flat out deny me the Subutex, I just assume that because I hear some doctors do.

[SubHuman]

First time I asked for subutex (for financial reasons) he shot me down, he didnt say no but he held up his finger as to say hold on a second and he left the room after I asked him if he could switch me to it and when he came back in he gave me that 75$ discount card for the garbage film and I was so dissappointed. I thought for a second that he was gonna give me the 'tex because he smiled when I asked him like he understood and then when he gave me the film I was pissed. I tried talking him outta the film and I couldnt even do that.

I was on that shitty film for 4-5 months and then one day in the waiting room I was thinking to myself "Im gonna ask him again" because he never remembers anything I tell him from appt to appt. I mentioned it to the nurse this time though and got her on my side and she knows how its hard for me to afford sub because I pay out of pocket and I heard her tell him I wanted to be switched and then when he came in he was cool and said "so you wanna switch to subutex because its cheaper?" and I said yeah and he wrote it for me. So yeah even if you dont get it the first time you ask try again after a few more appts, unless your doc is realy firm about not writing it when you ask. If you show compliance and have clean drops and have been seeing the doc for awhile then I dont realy see why the wouldnt do it.