guy detoxing stabs others and himself with a drill

[Bcough1]

FRENCH VALLEY, Calif. (KTLA) --A mantrying to detoxify from painkillers allegedly crashed his van Sunday into another car, stabbed the other driver with a cordless drill before turning the tool on himself. The man, identifiedas Garrie Apengren, 38, of Menifee, drove his car into the other vehicle just before noon in the 322000 block of Safflower Street in an unincorporated area of French Valley. The man had reportedly not slept for several days as he was going through detoxification from pain medication.

[axe]

Damn. Talk about a bad wd.
I can relate to the misery, but there's never an excuse to take others along on that ride.

axe

[babyd]

I thought the warning is to take caution while operating heavy machinery while on opiates, not coming off of them?

ok, bad pun...I kid, I kid.

Seriously though, I've certainly wanted to impail someone while in wd, but couldn't muster up the energy to actually go through with it.

[TheTalkingAsshole]

ahahahahaha

stabbed with a drill?
it was cordless, so i assume it was working.
id love to drill someone while ddetoxing
dont know about drilling myself though....

if i had to guess, id say fent, or disgustingly high doses
of BTH or oxy, since they in cali

[Chipper]

He obviously didn't know the drill like we do. Joke.

[methadoniac1972]

drilled holes in someone else maybe for that thing whattya call it??? sharing blood to get high??? i dunno maybe he was just a a liitle "bit" pointed in his argument?? pointless it was not..cordless eh? at least he might only get charged w/battery (drill) and not a hole lot else..lemme see...no thats all i got fer now

[Bcough1]

Lmaoo!!! I just picture some crazy sick dude with three days beard growth and without a shower , wide eyed and crazy shaking sick driving down the street into some ladies parked car then grabbing the drill and ramming it into his chest screaming at Jesus like after the guy escapes in the rain from shawshank redemption.. idk thats just how it feels in my minds eye. The.innocent lady is.going "whattt thee fuckkkkkk" when this now bloody man is running at her armed with an equally as bloody drill .

[nick]

Wonder if he got any good meds when he got to the hospital.

[doctor diesel]

Wonder if he got any good meds when he got to the hospital.

Yeah. Formaldehyde.


Doc

[fearofnormalcy]

shoulda just stayed home and not dragged innocents into his anguish. that way, it woulda looked more like this:

[seven10kids]

yeah, that is fucked.

not cool at all, but i dobut you can do much damage with a drill. I want to see the drill, you know the media likes to exaggerate, probably pretty small if it was cordless? could have been a double aa powered one or a big one with a battery pack. what a shitball tho, bringing others into it. maybe there is 2 sides to the story, who knows.? obviously painkillers are being used as the shock factor here.

[Import]

Seriously though, I've certainly wanted to impail someone while in wd, but couldn't muster up the energy to actually go through with it.

Yeah! I'd be too exhausted, weak, amotivated (re-appropriating a real word), and depressed to do something like that.

I'll bet it was the insomnia. I've gone for ~a week without sleep due to w/d, and my decision making wasn't exactly spot on.

But how do you stab yourself while in w/d? The pain would be unthinkable! Even without the w/d, it would be pretty iffy.

shoulda just stayed home and not dragged innocents into his anguish. that way, it woulda looked more like this:

What else are innocents for, but to be dragged into someone else's mess? I try to bring down AT LEAST ten innocents a day. Keeps me sharp, vital, and psychotic.

[nick]

yeah, that is fucked.

not cool at all, but i dobut you can do much damage with a drill. I want to see the drill, you know the media likes to exaggerate, probably pretty small if it was cordless? could have been a double aa powered one or a big one with a battery pack. what a shitball tho, bringing others into it. maybe there is 2 sides to the story, who knows.? obviously painkillers are being used as the shock factor here.

Sure,I agree.There's a whole lot more to this and it's being obscured(as usual) by dumb,press sensationalism.

[SHELLEY]

Sure,I agree.There's a whole lot more to this and it's being obscured(as usual) by dumb,press sensationalism.

that's true of just about every news story ever

[nick]

that's true of just about every news story ever

Yes and no-some subjects are more twisted than others and drug outrage stories get twisted like a fucking pretzel.

[More Feen]

drilled holes in someone else maybe for that thing whattya call it??? sharing blood to get high??? i dunno maybe he was just a a liitle "bit" pointed in his argument?? pointless it was not..cordless eh? at least he might only get charged w/battery (drill) and not a hole lot else..lemme see...no thats all i got fer now

Yeah Metha-D,

Reading your post made me think of all the natural endorphins that the body/brain produces. I think recently scientists discovered that the body also creates MORPHINE (not just some beta-endorphin agonist) but honest to god morphine (in very small quantities though).

For a person jonesing for a fix, they might seriously consider trying to "steal" another person's endorphins (1/4-inch drill required).

Now imagine if there was a gland at the base of everyone's brain that held the equivalent of 300mg of morphine (actually a mixture of endorphins, enkaphalins, and endogenous morphine). If opiate-lovers found out about this, there would be a rash of desecrations at funeral homes & graveyards..., at first.

Then, the murders would start.....

M F

PS- No such gland exists (AFAIK), but THIS would make a great premiss for a movie treatment--no?? Kind of a twist on the Zombie Theme (over-done, yes, but this one would be a bit more believable, scientifically). For all of you struggling writers out there, if you use this idea, give Ol' Morfy some credit (and some $$). I can also help with the writing--keeping it grounded & more-or-less accurate:

" BRAINS !! " they half-screamed, half-mumbled; as bits of their previous victims' pineal glands flew haphazardly from their blood-stained lips.

[mainline]

Yeah Metha-D,

Reading your post made me think of all the natural endorphins that the body/brain produces. I think recently scientists discovered that the body also creates MORPHINE (not just some beta-endorphin agonist) but honest to god morphine (in very small quantities though).

For a person jonesing for a fix, they might seriously consider trying to "steal" another person's endorphins (1/4-inch drill required).

Now imagine if there was a gland at the base of everyone's brain that held the equivalent of 300mg of morphine (actually a mixture of endorphins, enkaphalins, and endogenous morphine). If opiate-lovers found out about this, there would be a rash of desecrations at funeral homes & graveyards..., at first.

It's also specualated that aside from true morphine (not endogenous morphine, aka endorphins), the body can produce minute quantities of the simpiler Morphine analogues, such as Diacetlymorphine and Dihydromorphine.


Pretty wild shit, if it's true.

[More Feen]

Yeah, very strange.

can you imagine the Black Market for "cadaverine" (opiate drugs from a cadaver)??

Prolly wouldn't need "human" specifically, most mammals would have similar chems, if they could be found & isolated from the brain, or a gland.

Imagine certain LE orgs trying control that!:

-- "Put that brain down--NOW! or I will shoot you!"

-- "Quick partner, that druggie is trying to eat those pineal glands (evidence), choke him out so he can't swaller 'em!"

M F

[nick]

Yeah, very strange.

can you imagine the Black Market for "cadaverine" (opiate drugs from a cadaver)??

Prolly wouldn't need "human" specifically, most mammals would have similar chems, if they could be found & isolated from the brain, or a gland.

Imagine certain LE orgs trying control that!:

-- "Put that brain down--NOW! or I will shoot you!"

-- "Quick partner, that druggie is trying to eat those pineal glands (evidence), choke him out so he can't swaller 'em!"

M F

You been reading fear and loathing again,bro? What did I tell you about that?

[Bcough1]

You been reading fear and loathing again,bro? What did I tell you about that?

We went to las Vegas with a suitcase full of brains

[methadoniac1972]

You been reading fear and loathing again,bro? What did I tell you about that?

i was thinking about the adrenochrome in the book it "lights you up like being plugged into 440 volt socket" ya beat me to it but good brains do taste..i mean think alike

[methadoniac1972]

Yeah Metha-D,

Reading your post made me think of all the natural endorphins that the body/brain produces. I think recently scientists discovered that the body also creates MORPHINE (not just some beta-endorphin agonist) but honest to god morphine (in very small quantities though).

For a person jonesing for a fix, they might seriously consider trying to "steal" another person's endorphins (1/4-inch drill required).

Now imagine if there was a gland at the base of everyone's brain that held the equivalent of 300mg of morphine (actually a mixture of endorphins, enkaphalins, and endogenous morphine). If opiate-lovers found out about this, there would be a rash of desecrations at funeral homes & graveyards..., at first.

Then, the murders would start.....

M F

PS- No such gland exists (AFAIK), but THIS would make a great premiss for a movie treatment--no?? Kind of a twist on the Zombie Theme (over-done, yes, but this one would be a bit more believable, scientifically). For all of you struggling writers out there, if you use this idea, give Ol' Morfy some credit (and some $$). I can also help with the writing--keeping it grounded & more-or-less accurate:

" BRAINS !! " they half-screamed, half-mumbled; as bits of their previous victims' pineal glands flew haphazardly from their blood-stained lips.

zombies love brains that were previously residing in the skull of a drug user...i remember when i was around 10 and due to an asthma, attack ,my breathing was in audible and i was starting to smurf out (blue face etc) the nurse gave me a shot of pure adrenaline ..within 10-15 seconds..i was onto chasing the stimulant dragon...great post btw..more feen

[OCD]

I have certainly felt like stabbing somebody or myself while sick as hell, but I was so tired that I didn't have the energy to even bother.

[Spork]

yeah, that is fucked.

not cool at all, but i dobut you can do much damage with a drill. I want to see the drill, you know the media likes to exaggerate, probably pretty small if it was cordless? could have been a double aa powered one or a big one with a battery pack.

You ever seen hostel?

[smokey]

Have you all seen the documentary of that 1 fellow with an uncountable amount of drunk in public arrests. Well this last time I checked into detox there was a guy that looked just like him, and was equally nuts. The first instance after an NA group the leader asked him to join the circle to pray out, he gets up starts punching himself in the face then proceeds to bang his head on the wall. The next instance he tied a navy knot with his sheets around his neck and hung himself in his room. Some one randomly walked in the room and saw him hanging, blue, the whole ten yards, and saved his life with seconds to spare. The last time I was in detox I can swear the loonytoons came alive with all the kooks there, however it re-assured me that this disease is nothing to mess with, when I get there age I can be the same or worse.

[Spork]

Necroed thread, and, in the spirit of Fae, your avatar is almost exactly like LALifers, so you probably just bumped this thread to make me think he was still alive .

[thatoneguy]

Cool story bro