BEFORE SUBOXON.....Your stories.

[seagullsuber]

Before the wonder drug of suboxone and subutex were readily available, what techniques did any use to escape the misery of WD.

Obviously, benzo's are my favorite but when I couldn't get them I used Imodion AD. I dont mean a couple Imodioum, I would take about 70 to 90 pills a day. Walmart sells a generic type that is really small and you can swallow about 30 at a time -- and thats without a drink. Remember when you were a kid and needed a drink of water to swallow a pill. It took me 5 or 6 tries to get it down -- nowadays I can swallow 3 "good" pills at a time w/o a drink.

so this question posed on this thread is this; How to escape w/d before subs were accessible.

[dorje]

Shoot heroin.
Get some Dolophine
Codeine
Codeine cough syrup . You could actually get bottles without a prescription by signing a book at the Pharmacy. The book always had names in it like "Abe Lincoln, Cough Syrup,etc" The stuff tasted horrible and you had to work to hold it down but it stopped WD's.

[Opiyum]

Ive heard of people doing this ^^^ before but never could do it myself....is it only available at privately owned drug stores or do you think you could get it at an Eckerd or a CVS or the likes?

[OpieContin]

When I could get them I would take those shitty ass Darvocets, the big reddish ones. They actually would help the worst of the WDs. Another time I swiped a bunch of samples of Tramadol (ultram) from the office of a minor emergency center Doc. These also helped with the worst of the worst.

O.

[seagullsuber]

has anyone else tried the Imodiom technique -- a bunch at once? It has loprimide in them which is somewhat of a narcotic (something like that, i could be wrong)

[Opiyum]

Im pretty sure thats its technically an opiate though it doesnt cross the BBB so it cant have euphoric effects but it will help with WD's. At least it did for me thanks to someones advice. It does leave you constipated to a point that no human being should ever have endure.
From what I have heard the liquid form tis the easiest to deal with but I didnt know that when I did it.
As far as it being an opiate im sure its more complicated than i said but there is a lot of info here on the subject if you take a peek. I may be wrong this is kinda like my way of testing myself i guess. See how well the old thinkin' machine is workin'

[shaunclo]

Before good ol suboxone days, you just had to sweat it out. I have never swallowed a shitload of immodiums, I really doubt (besides physocologically) that it helps. Even thought "technically" has opiate qualities, I dont think it works.

I guess just stock piling benzos would be the most common thing for curing w/d's

[CUBErt]

I guess just stock piling benzos would be the most common thing for curing w/d's

Yea, Benzos were the only way I knew about back when I first discovered that I would be sick without dope.

[dorje]

Ive heard of people doing this ^^^ before but never could do it myself....is it only available at privately owned drug stores or do you think you could get it at an Eckerd or a CVS or the likes?

This was well in the past in New York on the lower east side. I can't remember the name of the syrup but it was godawful tasting-they made it that way so you wouldn't want to drink half a bottle-so we did.

Now a days, the doctor is more likely to prescribe a cough syrup (Tussionex, Vicodid, etc) than a pain med. But it will help with WD's. The Vicodid is nice since it does not have Tylenol in it. Tussionex is better. Low end is codeine cough syrup.

[nick]

If one searches long and hard one can score codeine linctus in the UK.If fractured memory serves one,there are 300 mgs of codeine a bottle.Enough to stop wds for a while.More widely available is collis browns which has opium,chloroform and morphine in it,enough for a buzz if on doesn't have a habit.
Good by all,one is off to take his medication.

[seagullsuber]

the imodiom works to an extent. Ofcourse it wont take the WD away but it allows you to perform daily activities (work, etc.) Now, working wont be easy but the AD will get you through. If you take enough, it will take away that god awful feeling in your legs and getting extremely hot and extremely cold. These are the two aspects that imodiom can help. As far as taking a shit, youre more likely to be struck my lightning. and when you do shit, your asshole stretches to the size of silver dollar (please dont use that comment against me)

[blackdog]

wow, we is living in da modern age then,huh?
back in the old days of good dope and free love(can't seem to find neither today)
anyhow to stem off the wd's till yer next dose one would eat sweets such as twinkies,cup cakes,real sweet cake and chocolate,supposedly chocolate has some effect on us,uh-oh watch out now were gonna need a scrip fer chocolate buzz.but seriously it would help you hold off a sick fer sure.
and when i did my first inpatient, all they would do fer me was clonapin and misc.
otherwise it was being a slave to methadone clinic and their gestapo rules
shhhiiiiittttttt f dat them days is over. kiss my ass nurse krachet!!
peace da/dawgg
OPIOPHILE RULES!!:cool:

[Zoops]

wow, we is living in da modern age then,huh?
back in the old days of good dope and free love(can't seem to find neither today)
anyhow to stem off the wd's till yer next dose one would eat sweets such as twinkies,cup cakes,real sweet cake and chocolate,supposedly chocolate has some effect on us,uh-oh watch out now were gonna need a scrip fer chocolate buzz.but seriously it would help you hold off a sick fer sure.
and when i did my first inpatient, all they would do fer me was clonapin and misc.
otherwise it was being a slave to methadone clinic and their gestapo rules
shhhiiiiittttttt f dat them days is over. kiss my ass nurse krachet!!
peace da/dawgg
OPIOPHILE RULES!!:cool:

Hey that's FUNNY!

I have used the over-the-counter codeine cough syrup. In the U.S., you can get it in most states. I reckon the laws concerning its sale are pretty much the same in any state that allows selling it. In The Commonwealth of Virginia, the rules is:

Purchaser must be at least 18 years of age (this means that whoever buys it has to be 18, does not mean you have to be 18 to USE it).

Cannot purchase more than 4 ounces of 10mg/5ml (one bottle) in 48 hours. One 4oz. (120ml) bottle has 240mg of codeine phosphate in it).

Pharmacist can sell at his discretion (that means they can tell you 'no' if they want).

I have used this stuff many times. It's a wonder that it is still available without Rx in the USA. My feeling is that it will remain that way for quite some time.

The best luck I've had with buying this stuff is by going to a 24-hour pharmacy (we have several around here, all of them are CVS's) after midnight, like some time between 1am and 4am. The night shift pharmacists are generally cooler about it than other pharmacists.

The mom-and-pop pharmacies, of which there are fewer and fewer these days (CVS, Rite Aid, Eckerd, Save-on, Walgreen's and Wall Mart are taking over) are probably your second best bet, but at the same time there's some of those type pharmacies where there's some totally uptight pharmacist (these are 9 times out of ten female pharmacists) who wouldn't sell it to the parent of a 3 year old who's in great distress from coughing so much. This actually happened to me, my wife and I were travelling out of town, still in Virginia though, and our son was coughing up a storm. So much that the poor guy started crying because his throat hurt so much and he couldn't stop. I thought I'd try and get some of this codeine shit for him, as that's actually what your supposed to use it for! The first pharmacy we went to, this dumb chick pharmacist who prolly got out of school like a month before told us that "It against dee state law. You need prescription for dat. I can't sell to you without dee prescription" (it was obvious that English was not her mother tongue.

Second place, the pharmacist (this was also a female pharmacist) did sell me a bottle, because she saw how bad my little boy was coughing. It made him stop coughing.

[seagullsuber]

does it get you high, or just take away WD? if so how much u need to take?

[sobermeth]

Before suboxone or methadone I would usually pop a few valium or other benzo and drink a few beers...and try sleep through some of the worst w/d's. The next day my legs would feel like I ran a marathon and my sheets would be soaked with my cold sweats. Methadone and suboxone are blessings for w/d symptoms, although I prefer methadone which to me is a more effective and less variable drug.