DXM - The King of OTC Drugs

[maycausedrowsiness]

DXM is easily the most accessible drug with any type of recreational value that is available in stores across the country (USA). You can probably get it in other countries as well, but where I'm from you can get the syrup that I posted above (if it worked... I'm really not sure if it did, but if not, here's a link to a pic of the product..http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/image.cfm%3Fid%3D28655%26type%3Dimg%26name%3Dlabel .jpg&imgrefurl=http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm%3Fid%3D28655&usg=__mBh0pKsA33KKLBAvSm W_bKJR8D8=&h=677&w=1350&sz=471&hl=en&start=0&zoom= 1&tbnid=RbXiDuyjyI2ClM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=195&ei=jrZuTe K2CIyisQOo6NS3Cw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcareone%2Btussin%2Bcough%26um%3D1%26h l%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D644%26tbs %3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=317&oei=jrZuTeK2 CIyisQOo6NS3Cw&page=1&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r,s&tx=85&ty=48

Anyway. I can pick up these bad boys at ANY store around me. Stop and Shop, CVS, Walmart.. always in stock. If I were the type of person who suffered from Kleptomania, I assume it would be pretty tempting (not to mention quite easy to) grab these beautiful blue bottles of red syrup for a five finger discount..... Either way, How can you ask for a better OTC drug than a bottle of Dex?

The Bottles I get contain 15mg dex per 5ml syrup. Each bottle is 118ml.. I'm no mathmatician but I think I can handle this one.

118/5=23.6
23.6=24

15x24=360!!!!

360mgs!!!!!!

And let me be the first to tell you, the syrup is not hard to put down AT all. It doesnt taste good like hmm say, Tussionex, which in my opinion is THE best tasting syrup of all syrups but alas, it is not OTC. So all things considered, the shit really doesnt taste that bad. I've drank it with people who bitch and whine about the taste; thats pussy. I grab a can of Sprite and down the bottle in 3 chugs and chase it with the sprite, cant even taste it or tell your even drinking anything... not trying to brag haha just sayin its only 4oz so thats like 3 shots..

I love me a DXM high. I downed myself a bottle about 30 minutes ago and the effects are just starting to settle in.. a nice warmth in my body and my vision has become...not blurry; id say lazy is a more appropriate word. DXM can be a very fun time and I am heading to my college's basketball game and i KNOW it's going to be a fucking experience. I can't wait.

DEX can be very powerful if you come across pure dxm but the syrup is available everywhere and its not even that expensive.. one bottle of syrup is a perfect dose for me. Not too much, not too little. A nice first plateau experience... I think. Let me check...

Threshold unknown
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 400 mg
Strong 300 - 600 mg
Heavy 600 - 1500 mg
Risk of Death 2,500 - 20,000 mg

Those are the basic plateaus, according to a popular drug website. So my dose is a nice "common" experience, which is all I'm really interested in anyway. I get a nice solid buzz and some cool visuals and certainly a mood lift...plus I feel like it mixes nicely with my methadone and the drug itself has sort of an "opiate like" feel to it.. for example, the warmth I get right after I ingest it, and it's kind of an 'all encompassing' type of feeling...

I've only drank two bottles once and it was a pretty heavy experience, which consisted mainly of me curled up in the fetal position on my bed reminding myself that this was just a drug and i will eventually stop feeling like this.. but having a hard time believing myself.. lol

I recorded myself playing guitar during one of my last dex trips, and by record, I of course mean recorded using the 'voice notes' feature on my blackberry haha but youd be surprised its not that bad quality.. but yeah I played REALLY well and came up with some really creative stuff that I've been working with ever since.. and they say dex fries your brain!!

Anyway, since I feel like I just wrote an essay, I feel as though it's appropriate to end with [in] conclusion, dex is a fabulous drug and its availability OTC earns it the crown... dex is the KING of the COUNTER.

350 mg's for like $7.99.. for value it can't be beat. And although many people have mixed opinions on the dex high, I find that in moderate or "common" doses as they put it up there, it can be a very relaxing and enjoyable (id MAYBE even say euphoric) experience. It combines nicely with my methadone, and the ingredients in the sizzyurpppp isnt much besides sugar, sugar, sugar, dxm, water, and coloring. I really dont see the health risks in occasional use, and I also don't find it to be the type of drug I would want to do every day.. although I know this may not be true for some folks.. I know a couple good people who got WAY too into dxm

but I think that if you have decent self control DXM can be an enjoyable and most importantly LEGAL way to get high. It feels like I'm breaking a rule by saying i GET HIGH from COUGH SYRUP but it's legal right?!?!

Anybody have any good DXM stories, memoirs from other worlds accessed by dex, stories from wild trips, bad trips, good trips, woodchips... SHARE

I'm starting to feel the dex kicking in real good, bout to go have a smoke... i hope i get some good replies on this that I can come back and read later when I've had a few beers and I'm nicely fuked...

cheers

-McD

[LayinLow]

Very good, informative post MCD. I love DXM as well... our opinions on "strong & heavy" doses is a little different.. I would say a 'strong' dose starts at 500mg, and anything over 850mg, IMO, is not too enjoyable. You say in your post of 'heavy' doses going up to 1500mg, which is a MASSIVE dose, and I would not recommend that to anyone. I love doses around 700mg personally, and that gets me to a strong 3rd plateau, which is where I have the most fun. Not a dose I would want to be in public, but for at home, perfect.
I had a friend take a 1000mg pill someone pressed from pure powder, and he had the worst time of his life... just way to big of a dose. Surely ok if you're use to strong DXM trips, but for an average user it's too much.
I just don't want someone to read this, and want to go all out on a 'heavy' dose, and take 1500mg like you mentioned. This is a disaster waiting to happen, and I guarantee it will not be enjoyable. I have taken many different doses of DXM, and anything over 750mg or so is not enjoyable anymore.
This is easily the king of OTC drugs, I agree. Not to be taken lightly either. It's not child's play because its OTC, be careful and have fun!

[Thanat0s]

...also soon to very very desirable by those who formerly mocked it,
as threads like this ensure it will be pulled from reddy OTC availability soon enough.

im also one of those fools who used 500+mg daily for over a year...
got me thru tech school in the USAF with honors.

OP: you do know its simply the dxtro-rotary isomer of levomethorphan, which is a very potent opioid, no?


dextroverse.org for all you need to know,
its helpful in w/d and with tolerance reduction as well...

keep it quiet though.

[LayinLow]

keep it quiet though.

Was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread.
Not like it's some big secret anymore though. Anyone with the power to make it RX only, would have a few yeaars ago I'm sure.
Still a good idea to keep it quiet. I just didn't want anyone to read his post, down 1500mg, and flip out.
Your Air Force honors story would be one I'd like to read about Than....

[OpiatedChronically]

Your Air Force honors story would be one I'd like to read about Than....

I 2nd this request. I didn't know you were in the USAF Than. Fuckin A man! One of my grandfathers was in the AF back in the 50s, was an airplane mechanic.

MCD, you pretty much said it all when it comes to DXM, it is a very useful drug IMO. It honestly doesn't do much for any actual cough I may have (it helps a TINY bit) but I've taken about a couple hundred milligrams at a time a few times and had a nice mild trip, I usually was in the dark listening to a playlist of songs I think will sound good during the trip.

I've never had a negative experience, I always had nice little visuals of the walls breathing slightly, little shadow "birds" and such flying around ever so gently in my field of vision in time to the music. My thoughts become much like they do on a shroom trip, deep and intense, sometimes funny, and I get those brief feelings of "I know EVERYTHING" that usually accompanies any decent psychadelic trip.

I've really only had these types of trips on DXM at doses of 200 - 300 mg, and only a handful of times. I seem pretty sensitive to DXM, as it doesn't take much to get me off.

For WD comfort, I use ER forms of DXM syrup, it works well and helps keep away certain symptoms like the chills, anxiety, aches, and has helped me get a little sleep when needed. It deserves respect, for there were times when I dosed a bit too much and felt more disassociated than I had planned, or the dose was too much at once and I got nauseous.

Enjoy your "trip" MCD. I've never taken a common dose like you did and gone out in public to a game, I've always stayed home when I take more than 100mgs of DXM.

[Chuckles]

It is a sad state of affairs when we need to keep quiet about helpful substances...

[maycausedrowsiness]

HAHA Let me be clear... I did not mean to seem like I would advocate the use of doses of 1500mg...

I actually just copied that dosing chat from the 'dose' section of the dxm erowid page, as I remember reading it in the past and I wanted to see how much my dose of 360mg. AND I know alot more people read erowid haha so lets hope nobody has gone to Planet Zero on a nice 5th plateau trip from wanting to try a 'heavy' dose..

My dex trip was very enjoyable last night. At the Basketball game, I had a blast. I had a real lack of inhibitions and I was yelling and getting the crowd into cheers and trying to make the other team miss free throws (we were sitting behind the basket) and everybody just assumed i was hammered.

I had a real good time though. I love me a good dex trip, and that was the original reason I started this thread in the first place.

I dont really think we have anything to worry about in terms of it getting pulled off the shelves because of a rather insignificant internet msg board post.. The man HAS to know already about the recreational effects of dxm, it would be foolish to think that they dont know exactly what it is and what it does.

But it REMAINS on the shelves... and in delicious syrup with NO other ingredients other than dxm? It's almost a joke when you think about it. You dont even have to sign for it or anything like those stupid ephedrine products. I can say that dex is the only OTC med that i actually ENJOY... I had a fantastic trip last night

I think that everyone can agree that a low-ish dose is the way to go with this chem. My 360mg was pretty nice.. had I been staying at home by myself listening to music I think I might have gone a bit higher.. it's cool how there are different 'levels' of dxm or 'plateaus' that you can go to..

My vision was very hazy last night, its like my mind was 1 second delayed compared to my eyes.. I really couldn't see that well everything was blurry-ish (I say ish because it really wasnt THAT bad, at all.) and I had a nice buzzing in my head and I was very happily intoxicated by it. I also smoked a few bongs, which definitely added to the high, and I had taken some Adderall and Dexedrine earlier in the day, but only 15mg total so I dont think that made much of a difference on the experience

I have taken the pills before, I think they are called Robitussin Cough Gels... Each pill is like 10mg and I remember I had to swallow like 30 and not liking to do that.. but now that I think about it, since then I've swallowed 40-50 loperamide at once, so I guess I could get the pills. but the syrup is by far my favorite form of the drug. Does anybody use Delsum (i think thats what its called), I think its like an extended release syrup.. What is your DXM product of choice?

I'll probably be waiting about a week before I induldge in dex again, and I feel like If i took the same dose tonight as I did last night, the effects would be diminished and less euphoric...

Peace

-McD

[maniak]

dxm is my fav too!!!!!
i usually trip around 400mgs and its pretty soothing for me.
but how could you watch a game after that is wack.
coz at times all i wanna do in dxm trip is just lie down and come up with crazy stories and one liners to write.
for some reason i dont like listening to anything while i am trippin.
all i want is peace and darkness.
The state that you get in a dxm trip is somewhat very much similar to lucid dreaming.
DXM is easily available, the price is affordable,trip is sooo awesome.
DXM is clearly the king of otc for me.
Ps- i am not a big fan of its hangover.

[surreal]

Hi all,

say, there seem to be lots of people with dxm-experience here in this thread so maybe you can answer this:

i read here and there that dxm (dextrovers, too, for example) with ssri's may, too, like tramadol, interfere and lead to a serotonine syndrom, but i couldn't find verification for this anywhere - does anyone here have experiences with that combo? is that risk to be taken seriously in real life, dosage dependent, and so on?

just asking because i am on several ssri's/snri's and some others which i'm not sure where they fit ...

any info, experiences, what ever?

thanks!

[LayinLow]

Hi all,

say, there seem to be lots of people with dxm-experience here in this thread so maybe you can answer this:

i read here and there that dxm with ssri's may, too, like tramadol, interfere and lead to a serotonine syndrom,
but i couldn't find verification for this anywhere - does anyone here have experiences with that combo?
just asking because i am on several ssri's/snri's and some others which i'm not sure where to put them ...
any info?

thanks!

I have taken DXM in doses I enjoy - 600mg+ while also taking a SNRI close to 7 or 8 times, and have had no ill effects... I have had serotonin syndrome twice from other concoctions, never from anything DXM related. That is something you NEVER want to go through in your lifetime, believe that, so if there are warnings out there... listen to them, not me... especially if you are taking "several SSRIs/SNRIs and others", TOO risky my friend.

[surreal]

thanks for the quick answer - not what i wanted to hear, but the voice of reason is speaking through you, undoubtfully first hearing about it i thought it was kind of a hoax, but i found too many hints just in the last hour, even if many say ssri's are not the problem but maoi's ...

maybe i'll risk some 30mg capsules sometime, just 90 to max. 120mg, all i want is a nice euphoric at least slightly opi-like feeling without all too trippy background anyway, but let's see - as you say, serotonine syndrom doesn't sound like fun.
Anyway, thanks again!

[lespaulpower]

dxm is certainly a treasure, however I don't think it's likely to be scheduled by the substance-police goons any time soon; dxm's recreational value has been well known to the DEA for a long time, since the 1950's in fact, but it's currently the only non prescription antitussive available without prescription, and makes drug companies such as Robo big money, some of these big names would not even exist if it weren't for OTC cough sales. DEA already has taken action against pure dxm products being sold online (chem supply, etc), but until an alternative to dex for OTC sale is introduced, I doubt it's going anywhere; also with the already fucked up state of health-insurance, most americans wouldn't be able to handle making a trip to the doctor's office everytime they have a pesky cough. The most I could see happening in the near future is maybe some FDA action requiring it to be sold behind the counter, similar to Psuedoephedrine; which many retailers have already adopted as store policy.

[Thanat0s]

many state and locals ALREADY require an ID and sig in a LOG to purchase DXM...
and it is in fact behind the counter much like p-fed in many localities.

the clerks dont know the diff,
so they THINK yer a meth cook scumbag when you show up weekly for DXM...
i have had it denied to me before due to possible abuse once already.

the shit is so frequently stolen,
and on 'party nights'(fri/sat)
the 'good stuff' is totally sold out while other cough preps gather dust foe weeks...

some stores i know have pulled the safe dexums ENTIRELY
merely on suspicion of how it is abused...

dont be so cocksure it wont get yanked.
if its a slow year, and enough fuss is made
both negative(save the kiddos) AND positive(kiddos/airowidz say A+!!)
bet ya dollars to doughnutz that shit will get pulled...


FFS LOPERAMIDE has been sched'd in the past,
codeine is sched NOW...

DXM pwns both of those meds
as far as an OTC feelgood/freakout is concerned.

bet.

[lespaulpower]

I agree with most of those points for the most part, but in my (humble) opinion, I think it's more likely than not to remain as it is for the forseeable future - Indeed DXM may hold far more 'recreational' value than both opioids lope and codeine; but also consider the fact that the scheduling of drugs by the DEA depends heavily on the ability to produce dependence, a drug such as even a weak opioid like codeine, a minimally abuseable drug which produces a significant physical dependence I believe is more likely to be regulated than a moderately abuseable drug which produces virtually no physical dependence, and at most a modest psychological dependence (I've been hooked on mega-dose dxm for over a year straight, only due to a psychological love affair with its effect) . I'm not implying that the DEA doesn't care about recreational potential, of course it's an issue; look at both salvia and marijuana; but for something such as dxm with such an established place in home-treatment of coughs, I personally don't imagine it being pulled without a viable alternative first being introduced; or perhaps regulations by the fda requiring all preparations to be polistyrex based (long acting), etc.. I don't speak this as absolute 'truth', because it's obviously not, and simply my opinion based on my interpretation of the DEA and the drug market..

Now of course, I could be totally wrong to believe this, and the DEA may surprise me and many others by putting an emergency C-1 status on dxm tomorrow... But I doubt it.. And that's always the first step to an inevitable scheduling..


Addition: DEA scheduling of drugs also seems to be heavily based on stigma and racial issue, or association with a group which government views as a counter-culture (i.e. the hippies in the 60's), and also seems to make a broad targeting of general classes (opioids, amphetamines, coca alkaloids, indoles)

[Count Zero]

Interesting, I always assumed it was crap. I still have no desire to try it (yet) but I appreciate the insight provided by the respected posters here, my mind is certainly more open to it than before I read this thread. I guess I have put it in the same category as pcp cause most of the people I know who did it were losers-come to think of it two of them also did lots of dust.
Glad y'all can get it when you want it. Maybe some day with a real low dose..

[Thanat0s]

LPP:
the DEA/FDA cares fuck all about 'dependence...'
if that were the criteria, why would cannabis, lsd, psilocybin, PCP, amphets, MDMA all sched when LOPE isnt?!

its 'euphoria' or likelyhood of repeat use due to enjoyment coupled with racial or status quo pandering that gets substances classified restricted...

for years i did DXM nearly daily,
and at times i had a harder time going without it than any of the drugs mentioned above.

actually
the only drug i came to rely on daily other than opiods of MJ was DXM!

[lespaulpower]

As I said in my last post, lsd and many of the psychedelics were scheduled as a reaction to the 'hippie counterculture' of the 1960's during the vietnam era; psychedelics were linked with the 'countercultural movement', while years earlier Marijuana was linked with 'dirty mexican immigrants', PCP on the other hand may serve to offer evidence to that point... Lack of physical dependence but decent recreational value (to those who actually found such a state enjoyable).. I'd also like to add that most of those drugs (lsd, psylocybin, pcp, marijuana) have had little to no track record of a widely ACCEPTED medical application prior to being scheduled; which is reflected by their C-I status; no accepted medical use.

Additionally, in all of DXM's recreational history; I fail to see any suggestion of its ties with an "undesireable minority", so the question is whether the simple fact that it's euphoric to many takes precedent over its medicinal value (in the eyes of the Goons) to merit its scheduling; unless it becomes particularly popular with middle-eastern or south korean kids in our high-schools I would assume that the euphoric value alone falls a bit short of meriting a ban of otc sales; sure the dea is overzealous, but based on my interpretation of history, It wouldn't follow the pattern.

On the other hand, Salvia Divinorum was exciting for many kids but had no potential for physical dependence, however it had no established medicinal use.

In the case of Loperamide, I would say that the DEA decided that its high demand and popular medical value outweighed its very small risk of physical dependence, as in the case with DXM - it is valued as one of the staples of over the counter medicine, with no current alternative other than opioids.

The way I see it is, scheduling a drug usually happens when it fits one of the two categories: a) no medical value and recreationally enjoyable, or b) has medical value but is highly addictive BOTH physically and psychologically.

Which is basically how the laws are written as well. Which leads me to believe DXM is not very likely to be pulled; at least not until an alternative is introduced, which perhaps they are eagerly working towards currently... but still

I'm not trying to discredit your statements at all, because they do have merit and make sense, but I really beg to differ. I'll be the first to speak out against the DEA and the CSA, but I tend not to predict an impending crackdown unless my interpretation of the past leads me to believe it.

In closing, I'd be willing to bet a 10-pack-of sharps that we won't see DXM yanked anytime in the next 10 years... Unless it becomes especially popular within the muslim-american culture or the tea party movement

I AM very cynical of the government, but I guess you could say more of a 'reasonably cynical'..

[ryan5892]

i dont give a shit, ive taken this stuff twice, and the worst 2 days of my life ensued.

[Trixz]

Personally i enjoy taking smaller doses of Dextromethorphan that extremly large ones, dont get me wrong i love the trip but when i take 450+mgs really trying to get anything productive done throught the day is almost impossible. But if you take a smaller dose say 150-200 mg's its just like taking a mild opiate almost like an opium high but with more energy, thats a good dose if you want to go out and enjoy life with some friends or maybe go fishing. In my opinion while on DXM it is very hard to concentrate on things like watching tv or going on the computer because your so spaced that the tv just looks like a box with moving pictures lol. Although at high doses laying down and listing to music is a very awesome experiance. One time i was laying on my bed listining to various types of music with my eyes closed and i felt as though my body was moving through this large endless tunnel with cool looking lights and you can actually feel the turns in the tube you almost feel as if your body is being stretched out and you feel waves of energy flowing through your body which feels quite awesome but still, i recommend lower doses.

[LorTabitha]

Hi Trixz,
Just a friendly hint. Posts are kind of hard to read and much more likely to be skimmed over or skipped completely if you do not use frequent paragraph breaks.

[Trixz]

Ok thanks, im doing my best to see how the forum works, thanks for the tip

[doctor diesel]

Does anyone from the UK know if there is an OTC DXM formulation that has ONLY DXM as the active ingredient?
I once drank 300mg of Covonia Night Time, not knowing it contains diphenhydramine as well as DXM, and all I got from it was projectile vomiting. Not an experience I would want to repeat.


Doc

[Trixz]

robitussin-coughgels-liqui-gels-20-ea_1108213_175.jpg
Robitussin liquid gels :wink:

Each gelcap contains 20mg of pure Dextromethorphan

[LorTabitha]

Robitussin liquid gels :wink:

Each gelcap contains 20mg of pure Dextromethorphan

Is that a UK product? (Just making sure)

[doctor diesel]

Is that a UK product? (Just making sure)

Alas, it would seem not.


Grammar Nazi

[Dilauday]

...also soon to very very desirable by those who formerly mocked it,
as threads like this ensure it will be pulled from reddy OTC availability soon enough.

im also one of those fools who used 500+mg daily for over a year...
got me thru tech school in the USAF with honors.

OP: you do know its simply the dxtro-rotary isomer of levomethorphan, which is a very potent opioid, no?


dextroverse.org for all you need to know,
its helpful in w/d and with tolerance reduction as well...

keep it quiet though.

just to clarify, it is the dextro isomer of methorphan, not levomethorphan, as that is the levo isomer of methorphan which is a potent opioid agonist.

DXM is very strong indeed, several doses of 1000+mg has shot one far out of this world into one filled with oddly shaped triangular visions accompanied by number 3s, which were most deffinately just a manifestation from the thought of triangles and three's that were being observed. one unfortunate result from drinking that much syrup, presumably from the fructose or glucose or whatever, was that it ooooopened the flood gates, any water drunk would be squirting out the ass within a matter of minutes in pure re-drinkable clarity. anything and everything was flushed like from the space shuttle, not a very pleasant experience to accompany a very very dissociative state of mind

[Benz]

Aye Doc, Robitussin is a cherry flavoured cough medicine with only DXM as the active ingredient.

I'm certain there will be generics available too. It is a good potentiator also. I take around 100mg about 30 minutes before I hit the gear. Excellent synergy, especially with a little weed thrown in.

I have never tried to use it to trip, I'm a little wary of that.



Benz

[doctor diesel]

You're right, Benz. I got it wrong.
Good news.
BTW, how effectively would you say it potentiates?


Doc

[clonaze-whammed]

You're right, Benz. I got it wrong.
Good news.
BTW, how effectively would you say it potentiates?


Doc

Just swallowed 100 mils of that god-awful cherry-flavoured UK-brand Robitussin
will let you know how well it potentiates in an hour.

[JUNKYJAY]

So what CW did that shit kill you?

How was it? :biggrin: