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    shooting ativan?

    so i found a few 0.5mg ativans. im trying to quit heroin and benzos have really been hitting the spot lately in my journey. ive had experience shooting up vallies but no other benzo. i was curious if anyone knew if there were any do's and dont's they could share with me on this one. ive read that lorazepam is IV compatable, and is given quite frequently in hospitals, but ive read that pure lorazepam is nearly insoluble in water. so should i mix it up with a tiny drop of vinegar to encourage it to being water soluble? these pills are tiny as hell, so if they dont dissolve propery, id rather just sniff a line or eat them. but kicking the dope and everything, i sometimes still want to get down with the rig when i can.

    any experience with these iv?

    theyre the white, generic, tiny round pills with R on one side and 57 on the other. they'r only 0.5mg, but i figure 2 0r 3 might be a decent shot. anyone?

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    Shooting valies? How'd you do that?

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    if ya need to ask,
    youd do better just to eat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hovadagod View Post
    Shooting valies? How'd you do that?
    You used to be able to buy it in TJ in ampules (If thats what hes talking about)..... I actually thought it sucked. I didnt get anyting special from it.
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    just like everything else. the liquid was a little blue in the end, but it did the job. actually vallies were the first thing i ever used in a needle. years and years before i ever shot smack. though i was a stupid kid then, with sloppy technique and dangerous behavour. im still surprised i didnt get an abscess garden all over my legs and arms. this was in my IM days, where i didnt know anything i shouldve about needle safety. though when i smartened up and was on dope, several years later, i tried vallies again like a regular shot and it worked out decent. tho i only tried it IV 2 times.

    u think the ativans would be straight for a shot? would a tiny drop of vinegar help with it dissolving better?

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    Re: shooting ativan?

    no, you cant shoot ativan.
    not even with vinegar.
    it aint sol in h20 and its not a PH problem.

    you never shot valium either,
    as diaz pills arent water sol either.

    i think theres an oil medium they use at the hospital to admin IV benzos.
    nothing but wasted drugs and sober(or hospitalized) you can result.

    please subl or eat the pills.

    ^^^correct and final answer.

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    ^^^^^^^^
    LMFAO Thinking of Thantos Slapping him in the face for wasting the valium. SLAP you never shot valium its not water souluble.SLAP Give me those valium before you waste em SLAP Thats for making me tell you you cant IV them when you should have used the searcg engine SLAP Thats cause your mom didnt have an abortion LOL

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    If you have some emulsified sterile lipids and/or specific fatty acids and/or polyethylene glycol 400D and/or propylene glycol in the right quantities, ratios, and of proper purity, you can shoot it, but it still hurts like Hell: these are the principal excipients used in the lorazepam for IV solution to make it water-soluble, and if you inject in the same vein many times - let alone muscle it - it will fuck you up worse than black tar heroin with flesh eating bacteria in it. And that's the G-d damned sterile, hospital, phials intended for injection version! It's only injected very rarely in order to stop seizures, otherwise it is always given per mouth or per rectum.

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    i did shoot valium, but it wasnt anything fantastic. i likely did do it wrong, or it is designed to not be abused as such like u said, but there were some effects neverthetheless. i have no reason to lie.

    not soluble u say? i appreciate the advice. i was too crazy about the idea of slamming these anyway. seems like a crackhead thing to do w such crappy pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNKYJAY View Post
    ^^^^^^^^
    LMFAO Thinking of Thantos Slapping him in the face for wasting the valium. SLAP you never shot valium its not water souluble.SLAP Give me those valium before you waste em SLAP Thats for making me tell you you cant IV them when you should have used the searcg engine SLAP Thats cause your mom didnt have an abortion LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slime Machine View Post
    i did shoot valium, but it wasnt anything fantastic. i likely did do it wrong, or it is designed to not be abused as such like u said, but there were some effects neverthetheless. i have no reason to lie.

    not soluble u say? i appreciate the advice. i was too crazy about the idea of slamming these anyway. seems like a crackhead thing to do w such crappy pills.
    diazepam(like most every benzo youll encounter) is insoluble in water.
    you might have gotten some talc and coloring in a rig,
    but not likely usable diazepam.

    shooting such a mix is VERY damaging,
    not only does it waste drugs but it WILL fuck up your body.

    thats all aside from the risks of CLEANLY shooting benzos with a dope habit...

    no intention of raggin on ya at all,
    but pretty serious Q on a dangerous subject yer posing.

    dont want any room for misunderstanding.

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    Ativan are one of the few decently water-soluable benzos out there.

    Yes, you can shoot them; no its not worth it. Orally is the way to go
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    "
    Pure lorazepam is an almost white powder that is nearly insoluble in water and oil.
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    Lorazepam injectable solution is administered either by deep intramuscular injection or by intravenous injection. The injectable solution comes in 1 mL ampoules containing 2 mg or 4 mg lorazepam. The solvents used are polyethylene glycol 400 and propylene glycol.
    "
    "
    The solubility of Lorazepam (a tranquilizer found in Emotival, Lorax, Wypax, and other prescription medicines) is 0.09 mg/mL and 2.78 mg/mL, in water and chloroform, respectively. Estimate the partition coefficient of Lorazepam between chloroform and water.

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    ...0.09mg/mL

    not soluble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanat0s View Post

    ...0.09mg/mL

    not soluble.
    sorry dan.
    So just get a big rig and shoot the emulsion, that's what blood is anyways, a damned emulsion. Of course this is a horrible idea, but it's doable if your willing to IV anything...

    EDIT: Or you could dissolve it in chloroform and shoot that, bet the chloroform would get you higher than the Ativan. (LMAO PLEASE DON'T DO THIS, ITS A FUCKIN JOKE)

    I looked it up in the merk index, it is soluble in alcohol, don't know how soluble but you could always use everclear if you have some. I have shot pure (200 proof) ethanol before, burns like a bitch, eats your veins, but it will get you fucked up. I don't see how anything gets wasted, if it doesn't get dissolved you can always swallow whats left...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanat0s View Post
    "
    Pure lorazepam is an almost white powder that is nearly insoluble in water and oil.
    "
    "
    Lorazepam injectable solution is administered either by deep intramuscular injection or by intravenous injection. The injectable solution comes in 1 mL ampoules containing 2 mg or 4 mg lorazepam. The solvents used are polyethylene glycol 400 and propylene glycol.
    "
    "
    The solubility of Lorazepam (a tranquilizer found in Emotival, Lorax, Wypax, and other prescription medicines) is 0.09 mg/mL and 2.78 mg/mL, in water and chloroform, respectively. Estimate the partition coefficient of Lorazepam between chloroform and water.

    "


    ...0.09mg/mL

    not soluble.
    sorry dan.
    I don't know where I got the impression it was, but there was a list somewhere (wikipedia? here? i dunno) of the solubility of different benzos and ativan was one of the higher ranked ones.

    I've shot a few and it did jack shit -- so I don't doubt you're right.
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    Like others have said, don't waste your ativan trying to IV it. Either chew it up and swallow it, or sublingual it. We hate to see drugs going to waste around here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxyphile View Post
    Like others have said, don't waste your ativan trying to IV it. Either chew it up and swallow it, or sublingual it. We hate to see drugs going to waste around here
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    I know somebody who is in the hospital as we 'speak' because he tried to shoot up benzos (valium). Almost lost his damn arm.

    I *believe* that midazolam is water soluble, but that's one of the rare ones. Like everyone else is saying, totaly not worth it.

    BTW-if that valium shot got you high, it was because you didn't filter it well and undissolved diazepam got in your rig (along with god knows what else). Be careful out there man.
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    Ativan is not water-soluble enough to have any appreciable effect when attempted to be dissolved in a solution of water, unless you inject 10mL (1000 units) of solution (e.g. an entire large oral syringe full, which would take a 5 minute push): I believe slightly less than 1mg would dissolve in 10mL water, as about 100µg is soluble in 1mL.

    The only water-soluble benzo you're ever likely to encounter in a real-life non-hypothetical situation is flurazepam (Dalmane), which is water soluble due to the addition of a diethylamino group on the diazepine ring, which is soluble to the tune of ~50mg/mL. However, 30mg of flurazepam is only equivalent to roughly 5mg of diazepam: it is the same general potency as chlordiazepoxide, but more hypnotic.

    The "Holy Grail" of benzos is in a drug called adinazolam, which is an alprazolam molecule slightly modified to make it water-soluble: it dissolves in water to the tune of way too much, and is roughly 75% as potent as Xanax itself (which is one of the most potent benzos, roughly equal to clonazepam [half as strong according to some sources] and half as strong as triazolam), and has two active metabolites: alprazolam (Xanax) and estazolam (ProSom).

    P.S. Thanatos: you just quoted either the Wikipedia article I wrote or the source (MSDS? I forget... too many benzos!) I plagiarised that section from.

    EDIT: Midazolam (Dormicum, Versed) is also water-soluble in quantities that make it abusable by injection.
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    You're playing with fire and you're going to get burnt. You could use a certain compound (PG I believe is its abbreviation) but still, I wouldn't risk it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitless_euphoria View Post
    You're playing with fire and you're going to get burnt. You could use a certain compound (PG I believe is its abbreviation) but still, I wouldn't risk it.
    PEG, polyethylene glycol. I think PEG is the stuff that makes injectable valium so thick and oily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the good doctor View Post
    EDIT: Midazolam (Dormicum, Versed) is also water-soluble in quantities that make it abusable by injection.
    This is true, had the pleasure once. As for a 10cc syringe, use the all the time, to shoot weird, un-water soluble items. Or if I'm just too lazy to cook a pill up correctly. But as I said earlier, I am fuckin nuts, and it doesn't take 5 minutes to push, w/ some determination I can get it down in less than 2...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slime Machine View Post
    i did shoot valium, but it wasnt anything fantastic. i likely did do it wrong, or it is designed to not be abused as such like u said, but there were some effects neverthetheless. i have no reason to lie.

    not soluble u say? i appreciate the advice. i was too crazy about the idea of slamming these anyway. seems like a crackhead thing to do w such crappy pills.
    I play nurse for a living.
    Injectable benzos come, like tgd said, in an oily hard to inject solution. They are used in the ER and ICU to stop seizures. In psychiatry, where I work, we use them IM (intra muscle) to chemically restrain people who are raving. NOT a high, more like a STOP dead in your tracks.
    I IV'd ativan from the vials years and years ago. Hard to inject because it's so oily, NO high, just went to sleep & woke w amnesia.
    Boring.
    Dangerous.
    Just take the pills orally my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppylvr View Post
    I play nurse for a living.
    Injectable benzos come, like tgd said, in an oily hard to inject solution. They are used in the ER and ICU to stop seizures. In psychiatry, where I work, we use them IM (intra muscle) to chemically restrain people who are raving. NOT a high, more like a STOP dead in your tracks.
    I IV'd ativan from the vials years and years ago. Hard to inject because it's so oily, NO high, just went to sleep & woke w amnesia.
    Boring.
    Dangerous.
    Just take the pills orally my friend.
    Really, just take them under the tongue or swallow. Just because you can shoot it doesn't mean you should. Ativan is absorbed just fine this way, I'd only go 'bout shooting them if I was seconds away from seizing or something. It would be a desperation deal. I've done it, it can be done, try it once, get it out of your system, then take them orally.


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    Ativan (lorazepam) is almost totally insoluable in water. Diazemuls (injectable diazepam) is dissolved in soya bean oil, glycerol & abulmen. Snorting gives about 77% bioavailability (Journal of Clinical Pharmacology - Bioavailability and pharmacokinetics of lorazepam after intranasal, intravenous, and intramuscular administrationDP Wermeling, JL Miller, SM Archer, JM Manaligod, AC Rudy. Swallowin gives 90% bioavailability but about the most effective (highest bioavailability) way to use lorazepam is to plug it. It may not be pretty, but it hits hard & fast - 93% bioavailability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanat0s View Post
    diazepam(like most every benzo youll encounter) is insoluble in water.
    you might have gotten some talc and coloring in a rig,
    but not likely usable diazepam.

    shooting such a mix is VERY damaging,
    not only does it waste drugs but it WILL fuck up your body.

    thats all aside from the risks of CLEANLY shooting benzos with a dope habit...

    no intention of raggin on ya at all,
    but pretty serious Q on a dangerous subject yer posing.

    dont want any room for misunderstanding.

    be safe, eh?
    thx for asking here BEFORE you did it bro...

    oh no, im not bent outta shape. if anything, im glad u put that down to hopefully discourage anyone who thought of trying it out. i wasnt sold on the idea of doing it, it was just something i was thinking as i drove home from getting the pills. i quit opies but i still get the itching for the rig sometimes, u kno. yeah, i did shoot valium several times when i was younger. it was definately WASNT one of the smartest things ive done. luckily back then i was too dumb to properly do IV, so all of those times i did it (under 10 if i remember right) were all IM. i did have some nastey spots and bruises, but luckily nothing serious came from it. then as the years went by and i got into dope, with people who showed me the rops on IV, i tried it again. i had no idea there was talc in the pills, but im not that surprised now that i think about it. that alone is pretty scarey. but yea i only did valium iv at the most 2 times. each were with tiny little amount, and as good of a filtering as i could manage.

    shit, its a good thing i didnt assume they were alrite and do them yesterday. good post. hey i understand the need to be so direct on the matter, i would be heart broken if someone read this and tried it out, only to get hurt. i guess i dodged a bullet with my experiences though someone else might not be so lucky.

    nevertheless, u say its not water soluble.... thats cool, im not arguing with the science of it all. ive read a few reports since i saw these posts which said the same thing. though when i did it,and a friend of mine had done it as well (seperate time and place) and we both felt effects from it. i am not encouraging anyone to do anything like this, but there must have been something that worked its way into the water. tho who knows, maybe it was a clogged brain vessel from the talc, cutting off oxygen to my brain whatever i did feel, it wasnt enough to make me go back and do it again anytime soon. tho it was several years back, i rememebr the IM shots were more effective than the minimal experience with the IV valium. tho im grateful nothing nastey turned out from such nonsense. if i had it all to do again, i wouldve popped them instead

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    Ativan (along with most benzos) is not soluble in water as most people have already said.

    However, ativan is fairly soluble in alcohol. The easiest way to inject ativan is to dissolve the powder into an alcohol solution. You can even use something like vodka if you are really desperate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slime Machine View Post
    i had no idea there was talc in the pills, but im not that surprised now that i think about it. that alone is pretty scarey. but yea i only did valium iv at the most 2 times. each were with tiny little amount, and as good of a filtering as i could manage.
    All pills have talc in them. Anyone who shoots pills (OxyContin, Roxis, morphine) is putting talc into their bloodstream.

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    When I was desperate I'd shoot temazepam for the insta-high using rum and even iso. alcohol.

    not recommended to do that, but with a higher proof liquor sometimes all you need is to dilute a few ccs of it with water.

    no rush.. just insta-high. i loved it so much because temazepam is unlike any other benzo i've tried
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