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    Default AH-7921 (Simple to make @ home ;-)



    Direct combination of the 2 compounds below in anhydrous conditions:

    3,4-Dichlorobenzoyl Chloride [CAS 3024-72-4]
    (1-Aminomethyl-cyclohexyl) dimethylamine [CAS 41806-09-1]

    Both materials are commercially available. The drug is totally unlike any currently controlled drug so no analog laws. It's almost exactly as potent as morphine (the +- values for this suggest it may be 5% stronger or something). I am currently waiting for my precursors to arrive. When they do I will make nice photos. I will try DMSO, DMF and a couple of other solvents and I want the HCl formed scavanged to increase yield - that will take some thinking about.

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    Default Re: AH-7921 (Simple to make @ home ;-)

    That's a pretty sick ring on the alphamethyldioxide group

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    Alphamethyldioxide? Are you referring to the 3,4 dichloro moety <confused>? I was just trying to suggest a morphine strength opioid that a non-chemist could potentially make. The prices of the precursors arn't too high, even Sigma Aldrich cannot take the piss too much (like they usually do).

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    Default Re: AH-7921 (Simple to make @ home ;-)

    I was just trying to suggest a morphine strength opioid that a non-chemist working in a University Chemistry department or for chemical company, who has a Sigma Aldrich account could potentially make. The prices of the precursors arn't too high, even Sigma Aldrich cannot take the piss too much (like they usually do).
    Fixed.

    Chemical companies don't sell these sorts of reagents to anyone off the street. You typically have to register with them to open an account, and in order to register you need to own or work for a business that has a reason for ordering the chemicals.

    Now there are smaller independent chemical companies that will sell to individuals, but then you are restricted to buying more general chemicals with more uses, than the specialised reagents that you have been posting about so far.

    By all mean's keep posting about chemistry, but in future make sure that any reaction you write about only requires reagents that can be bought OTC by an individual without having a chemical company account.

    Also synthetic chemistry isn't something that anyone can do at home. It takes a certain skill set and equipment, which is why threads about it are only of limited value to most people here. Even if people do understand it, that doesn't mean that they are willing or able to do the reaction.

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    OT: I was not suggesting Sigma Aldrich as a source. I just check their outragious prices, devide by 2 & expect to pay that from a local supplier. Happily I'm in the position to order small amounts of chemicals through a friend who is a pharmacist. Glassware is sold to anyone (& you can buy second hand off Ebay! All you need is a business account (which you pay money into first) and a company credit card. Then you can call your business whatever you like. Choose something vague like 'Core Design' or 'mole technology' Off the shelf companies are 10 a penny & references are NOT needed. Start by ordering glass wool and similar non-suspicious stuff then pay right away. After 3-4 transactions your cool with them...
    I did the 6 times without a hitch.

    You have to agree that chemically this stuff isn't controlled. If you have a buyer outside the US then the DEA go looking for them & if they are in Hong Kong or whatever, then they never find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borohydride View Post
    OT: I was not suggesting Sigma Aldrich as a source. I just check their outragious prices, devide by 2 & expect to pay that from a local supplier. Happily I'm in the position to order small amounts of chemicals through a friend who is a pharmacist. Glassware is sold to anyone (& you can buy second hand off Ebay! All you need is a business account (which you pay money into first) and a company credit card. Then you can call your business whatever you like. Choose something vague like 'Core Design' or 'mole technology' Off the shelf companies are 10 a penny & references are NOT needed. Start by ordering glass wool and similar non-suspicious stuff then pay right away. After 3-4 transactions your cool with them...
    I did the 6 times without a hitch.

    You have to agree that chemically this stuff isn't controlled. If you have a buyer outside the US then the DEA go looking for them & if they are in Hong Kong or whatever, then they never find them.
    As long as your orders don't include watched chemicals (for drugs/bombs/poisons) then they can sell 'in good faith. I send them christmas & birthday cards. They feel comfortable with you. After a while you can order pretty much anything you want. 50l glass vessels were no problem at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Bear View Post
    Fixed.

    Chemical companies don't sell these sorts of reagents to anyone off the street. You typically have to register with them to open an account, and in order to register you need to own or work for a business that has a reason for ordering the chemicals.
    Shell comanies cost only a few $100 to set up, whats the big deal? They also supply to academic institutes and the Chinese sell to anyone! There is no issue here...

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    Anyone else find this interesting?? OP, let us know some more when you get the precursors! Good Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by HandMeSomeOpiates View Post
    Anyone else find this interesting?? OP, let us know some more when you get the precursors! Good Post

    I DO! I DO! I love chemistry and am very much a novice so I take a great interest when people post things like this. Probability of real world use aside, I find it interesting and would like to hear more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borohydride View Post
    Shell comanies cost only a few $100 to set up, whats the big deal? They also supply to academic institutes and the Chinese sell to anyone! There is no issue here...
    oh yes there are HUGE issues
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    Everytime someone posts one of these threads im just all

    "damn that sounds cool and all but ... :confused::confused::confused: UHHHHHHMMMMM?!!??!!?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandMeSomeOpiates View Post
    Anyone else find this interesting?? OP, let us know some more when you get the precursors! Good Post

    I'm def. interested. "Simple to make at home" caught my eye. Maybe I can learn?
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    I never suggested Sigma Aldrich as supplier but they quote prices. That's ALL I use them for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borohydride View Post
    I never suggested Sigma Aldrich as supplier but they quote prices. That's ALL I use them for.
    :confused:
    okay- what does that have to do with anything???
    just worth noting you have NO idea what you may get from a China source
    but still
    that not really the issues.

    you really missed the WHOLE big picture
    me thinks

    - guess you will find THAT out on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLD N DIEMONDS View Post
    :confused:
    okay- what does that have to do with anything???
    just worth noting you have NO idea what you may get from a China source
    but still
    that not really the issues.

    you really missed the WHOLE big picture
    me thinks

    - guess you will find THAT out on your own.
    I wan a 2CI lab in The netherlands when it was legal? Anyone else?

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    I wonder if owning a farming business can get you through the door with some of the supply companies.

    I know for my business I can order copious amounts of Dexamethasone, DMSO, Acepromazine and other tranq type nasties, Flunixin Megulamine, phenylbutazone, and syringes and needles of any gauge

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    some chinese companys will not only sell to individuals...but for nominal amounts of cash, they will send you "sample" amounts of various chems, especially organic compounds pulled from plant materials.

    one such company sent me a hundred grams of some natural compound called matrine that was reported to have opioid interaction, indirect if not direct...

    I had only asked for a FEW grams and sent 20$ to them, it cost me more to wire the money than it cost me to buy the sample.

    next thing I know I have a strange package in the mail only a week later, and did not expect to see the package for at least a month or two.
    the company sent it express...
    and sent me more matrine than I will need in a lifetime...

    anyway, AH-7921 sounds like an interesting one for sure...
    I would be a bit worried about the research chemical nature of the compound, and wouldnt want to get habituated to a compound that I dont know much about..
    never the less, if an easy reaction of a few steps was possible with relatively benign substances it would be amazing if the result was something worth while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacky View Post
    some chinese companys will not only sell to individuals...but for nominal amounts of cash, they will send you "sample" amounts of various chems, especially organic compounds pulled from plant materials.

    one such company sent me a hundred grams of some natural compound called matrine that was reported to have opioid interaction, indirect if not direct...

    I had only asked for a FEW grams and sent 20$ to them, it cost me more to wire the money than it cost me to buy the sample.

    next thing I know I have a strange package in the mail only a week later, and did not expect to see the package for at least a month or two.
    the company sent it express...
    and sent me more matrine than I will need in a lifetime...

    anyway, AH-7921 sounds like an interesting one for sure...
    I would be a bit worried about the research chemical nature of the compound, and wouldnt want to get habituated to a compound that I dont know much about..
    never the less, if an easy reaction of a few steps was possible with relatively benign substances it would be amazing if the result was something worth while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borohydride View Post
    I wan a 2CI lab in The netherlands when it was legal? Anyone else?
    2000

    ---------- Post added at 10:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:30 AM ----------

    Most Chinese sell to anyone IF you give a company name & pay by money transfer...

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    I cannot post leads but-

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacky View Post
    some chinese companys will not only sell to individuals...but for nominal amounts of cash, they will send you "sample" amounts of various chems, especially organic compounds pulled from plant materials.

    one such company sent me a hundred grams of some natural compound called matrine that was reported to have opioid interaction, indirect if not direct...

    I had only asked for a FEW grams and sent 20$ to them, it cost me more to wire the money than it cost me to buy the sample.

    next thing I know I have a strange package in the mail only a week later, and did not expect to see the package for at least a month or two.
    the company sent it express...
    and sent me more matrine than I will need in a lifetime...

    anyway, AH-7921 sounds like an interesting one for sure...
    I would be a bit worried about the research chemical nature of the compound, and wouldnt want to get habituated to a compound that I dont know much about..
    never the less, if an easy reaction of a few steps was possible with relatively benign substances it would be amazing if the result was something worth while.
    This man is right on the money. Sorry for not reading it properly before :-( The Chinese DO have drug laws so you still have to be a little careful. You can get custom synthesis done as well...

    B-)

    ---------- Post added at 12:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:35 PM ----------

    I am having trouble finding the synthesis of this. It wasn't patented & 'British journal of pharmacology 49 (1): 158P–159 Anti-nociceptive effects in N-substituted cyclohexylmethylbenzamides (R T Brittain, D N Kellett, M L Neat, and R Stables) doesn't go into the chemistry.

    The problem is that when an acid halide reacts with an amine, an acid is formed (HCl in this case) which will react with other amines. What is needed is a scavenger base. Now, simply using NaOH would result in the formation of H2O and that would not be good. I am considering NaH or LiH because they are potent bases & only NaCl (which drops out of solution) and H2 gas (so safety, folks) are evolved.

    If anyone can suggest a better scavenger then please tell me.

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    US Patent 3975443 has a 1-step, RT synthesis yielding over 70%. US Patent 4346101 has a lower yielding & more fiddly route (Lednicer makes EVERYTHING complex) BUT he uses triethanolamine & THF in place of pyridine as the solvent system. His product has a MP of 208-209 whereas the former patent is 215-216C so theirs seems purer. Recrystalization using ethyl acetate/DCM seems simple enough...

    Now, just a case of finding a good (cheap) source of (1-aminomethyl-cyclohexyl)-dimethylamine. Lednicer makes it from cyclohexanone, dimethylamine & KCN in high yields... that may be the way to go unless someone finds where the stuff is used commercially (as an intermediate I would hazard) & ask for a supply...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Bear View Post
    By all mean's keep posting about chemistry, but in future make sure that any reaction you write about only requires reagents that can be bought OTC by an individual without having a chemical company account.
    So now we have restrictions on what chemistry topics people can post about? What is this a communist board now? Who made you the head censor? The whole point of this board is that people are free to discuss any kind of chemistry/synthesis, not just what you deem to be appropriate. The OP is discussing a synthesis method for an unscheduled chemical, the source of the precursor chemicals is irrelevant. So kindly shut the fuck up.

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    The problem with this compound is not the availability of the chemicals - DOZENS of places offered me their services; it's the cost. (1-aminomethyl-cyclohexyl)-dimethylamine is just too expensive for an M potency drug - DIY a la Lednicer looks OK as long as you don't mind working with KCN and can get it (UK has the Poisons List).

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    Wow, this is definitely interesting. I stumbled upon this thread while reading another one on here about novel research opioids.

    Any word on what is going on with it. Has any one assayed or synthed it?

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    The whole research chemical industry is fascinating, but I find it scary at the same time. Sure, this stuff has a similar effect to morphine, but are my kids going to have tails and antennae?
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    I really wanna know about the stuff you can make from morphine with lithium battery acid that's supposedly 10x stronger and lasts longer too. . . how to extract the proper chemical from the battery (I doubt it's pure), how to keep it from burning your eyes/lungs while you're burning it off, etc. SWIM will do it if you'll tell me so I can relay it to her. She's very curious and wants to feel it for herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disconnect View Post
    I really wanna know about the stuff you can make from morphine with lithium battery acid that's supposedly 10x stronger and lasts longer too. . . how to extract the proper chemical from the battery (I doubt it's pure), how to keep it from burning your eyes/lungs while you're burning it off, etc. SWIM will do it if you'll tell me so I can relay it to her. She's very curious and wants to feel it for herself.
    what in the hell are you talking about? lithium is used to make meth, never heard of a morphine based reaction though got a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkin View Post
    what in the hell are you talking about? lithium is used to make meth, never heard of a morphine based reaction though got a link?
    look at the thread titled something like "IV users: which do you prefer, mallies or abg's" in the morphine section. I promise I'm not nuts. or at least not that nuts.

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    You could all be talking in mandarin chinese for all I understand.
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