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    Default Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    I usually take around 550mgs of tram over the course of a day, i have some vicodin 5/500apaps but I am hesitant to take one while im on the other.

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Quote Originally Posted by roze0037 View Post
    I usually take around 550mgs of tram over the course of a day, i have some vicodin 5/500apaps but I am hesitant to take one while im on the other.
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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    really?

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Ya been a member since late '09 homie....if you've done as much lurking as I have you should know that the answer to your question is no you won't get hurt, you shouldn't get ill, and drugs are bad m'kay?

    On the HR side don't drink with the amount of APAP you're talking about I suppose? Still not worth worrying about, enjoy your high.

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEY View Post
    really?
    So I would very much like to ask you why you have to be condescending in cases like this. You do it a lot. Does it make you feel like some sort of knowledge powerhouse? Do you feel like a bad ass cuz the only thing you got good at in life was being a drugged out wretch at some point?

    Come on shelley... You give such good stuff sometimes and then act like a stuck up jerk others. Why even open your mouth in a case like this. Keep your snotty comments to yourself. You weren't always the powerhouse of wisdom you are now.


    OP... You will probably be fine as long as you are not feeling resperitory depression or anything like that after taking your trammies. If anything the trammies may block some of your receptors and overpower the hydrocodone. It has this antagonistic effect in some people. If that is the case you wouldn't even feel the vicodin.

    I would save the vicodins. I have had best luck (when this stuff worked on me and had a low tolerence- I miss those days ;-) when I would take two or three vicodins and a tram on top of those. But the tram still could knock the hydro off for some people.

    Only experimentation will tell. Just be careful. Keep an eye on your breathing if you are worried. Google signs of opiate overdose or something if you want more info.

    Have fun!

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    You take 550mgs of tram a day and are weary about taking some 5mg Vicodin pills? Come on man, you're flirting with the seizure threshold everyday taking that many trams, but yet you are worried about Vicodin? I'm sorry man, I just don't understand why you would ask this. The trams are way worse for you IMO, a friend of mine almost died from a concussion after having a tram seizure from taking 400mg. Trams have one purpose in my book, stopping W/D from other opiates, and that's it.


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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    thRow the tRamadol out and just eat the vikes-

    one tRam plus one vicodin youll be ok-

    what is youR cuRRent level of use?

    i take it you have a low toleRance consideRing the fact that the tRamadol and 5 mg of vike get you high?

    im not being condescending just wondeRing,thanks.

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    unless you a seizurin fool, up to about 1000mg of tramadol is about the 'safety line', isn't it? i was allowed to take 10 100s a day, they didnt give a shit, said it was like a stronger tylenol. when you got a low tolerance, why not enjoy the simple things while you can? you should be fine man.
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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Quote Originally Posted by God_Albino View Post
    unless you a seizurin fool, up to about 1000mg of tramadol is about the 'safety line', isn't it? i was allowed to take 10 100s a day, they didnt give a shit, said it was like a stronger tylenol. when you got a low tolerance, why not enjoy the simple things while you can? you should be fine man.
    This post was so wrong I cannot help but point out that you should not take any of that seriously. A gram of tram is a deathwish. And not to mention that tram and Tylenol are completely different. You should realize that your "advice" might end up killing someone. And if your doctor told you this, I don't see how he manages to successfully practice medicine, because that is moronic coming out of a doctors mouth. Actually, it's moronic coming out of anyones mouth.

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    The 400 mg threshold is very much a "liability-safe" recommendation. In someone with no prior history of seizures or epilepsy, taking 1000 mg of tramadol doesn't really increase the risk any more than say 500 mg. if you doubt me the actual medical literature is out there, tramadol is a lot less dangerous than people say a lot. I mean i certainly am not going to say "go out and take shitloads of trammies" because some people have head injuries or medical problems that would increase the likelihood of a seizure, but IIRC I read a case study that said around 800 mg of day (could be wrong on the exact amount but it was a lot) still only produced seizures in less than 1% of randomly selected individuals, and I think it was totally random so that includes people with epilepsy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical_Boy View Post
    So I would very much like to ask you why you have to be condescending in cases like this. You do it a lot. Does it make you feel like some sort of knowledge powerhouse? Do you feel like a bad ass cuz the only thing you got good at in life was being a drugged out wretch at some point?

    Come on shelley... You give such good stuff sometimes and then act like a stuck up jerk others. Why even open your mouth in a case like this. Keep your snotty comments to yourself. You weren't always the powerhouse of wisdom you are now.


    OP... You will probably be fine as long as you are not feeling resperitory depression or anything like that after taking your trammies. If anything the trammies may block some of your receptors and overpower the hydrocodone. It has this antagonistic effect in some people. If that is the case you wouldn't even feel the vicodin.

    I would save the vicodins. I have had best luck (when this stuff worked on me and had a low tolerence- I miss those days ;-) when I would take two or three vicodins and a tram on top of those. But the tram still could knock the hydro off for some people.

    Only experimentation will tell. Just be careful. Keep an eye on your breathing if you are worried. Google signs of opiate overdose or something if you want more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEY View Post
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    What's common sense to you may not be to someone without your level of experience. Is this not is a harm reduction forum, first and foremost?

    I'll admit that I prefer the company and conversation of a seasoned and intelligent druggie to that of a pill popping soccer mom 99 times out of a hundred, but I do get tired of the "my habit is bigger than yours" mentality that pops up so often around here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEY View Post
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    I like the I roll. I lmfao. Cuz yeah, maybe I was being a little dramatic. I will admit I deserved it. But I do gotta ask why ya gotta be like that. Man, just let it lie if you think it is a retarded question. Why not just let it lie or answer it in a straightforward way? What does saying stuff like that accomplish? "Like what?" You may ask... Just like that... You know what I mean.



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    I am not saying you should keep taking 500+ mg of tramadol, but the documented threshold of one dose oral that has a significant risk of seizure is 500mg. This is for someone who isn't prone to siezures. Also that is not to say 450 mg in one sitting is safe.

    But this dude is just doing what we all do- taking a bit more than what he is prescribed to catch a buzz. It falls under do as I say, not as I do to come down on him like he is treading a super thin line between death and fleeting life by taking an additional 25% over the course of a day. Knee jerk reactions are easy to have. We are all guilty at some point. Just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Man View Post
    What's common sense to you may not be to someone without your level of experience. Is this not is a harm reduction forum, first and foremost?

    I'll admit that I prefer the company and conversation of a seasoned and intelligent druggie to that of a pill popping soccer mom 99 times out of a hundred, but I do get tired of the "my habit is bigger than yours" mentality that pops up so often around here...
    goddamn it, i'm a pill popping mom
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Man View Post
    What's common sense to you may not be to someone without your level of experience. Is this not is a harm reduction forum, first and foremost?

    I'll admit that I prefer the company and conversation of a seasoned and intelligent druggie to that of a pill popping soccer mom 99 times out of a hundred, but I do get tired of the "my habit is bigger than yours" mentality that pops up so often around here...
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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Haha, ok well I am not going to respond to everyone but thanks to those who gave helpful info instead of condescending words. I asked because I have heard bad things about tramadol, no I have never had a seizure on it and I have been on it for 2 years or so, sometimes a dosage of 900 over 12 hours but not for a long time.

    This is a message board so what is with all the responses that aren't helpful, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Man View Post
    but I do get tired of the "my habit is bigger than yours" mentality that pops up so often around here...
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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    To be more specific on my question, would taking a total of 4 vicodin (20mg/2000apap) about 3+ hours after taking the 550 tramadol still be safe? Sorry to ask again but I am not sure if I made the question clear the first time around.

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Yes, that would be safe. You already have a tolerance to the tramadol, adding a few vicodin will just get you feeling more euphoric than the tramadol do. I use to take tramadol and vicodin during the same day all the time. It was a lower tramadol dose and higher vicodin dose than you're going to take, but I was always fine. I'm sure you will like the hydrocodone a little more than the tram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEY View Post
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    Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Now to figure out a perfect time to take the vics

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    Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Quote Originally Posted by roze0037 View Post
    This is a message board so what is with all the responses that aren't helpful, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose...?

    17 posts in and ya already bitchin' about peeps cuntin' up yer threads...
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    After a while you get tired of typing the same response to the same question over and over and over - because there's always a couple jackass' who think their questions are different from the ones already answered and feel the search function is just a waste of time.

    In case you haven't read any of the other threads going around as of late; the "holier then thou", on my high horse, and my shit don't stink type attitudes, threads, and just general fuck headedness that comes with that type of person is been on the short list around here.

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEY View Post
    goddamn it, i'm a pill popping mom
    and it's still basic common sense
    but whatever, sorry OP, i'm just one sarcastic shit

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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Yeah you can mix them, just make sure they aren't ultracets (because of the tylenol). I usually take tramadol 20-30 minutes before taking stronger opioids, seems to boost them more that way. The tramadol should act on the liver enzymes similar to how tagamet/grapefruit juice does.
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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrophoria View Post
    This post was so wrong I cannot help but point out that you should not take any of that seriously. A gram of tram is a deathwish. And not to mention that tram and Tylenol are completely different. You should realize that your &quot;advice&quot; might end up killing someone. And if your doctor told you this, I don't see how he manages to successfully practice medicine, because that is moronic coming out of a doctors mouth. Actually, it's moronic coming out of anyones mouth.
    I have heard the exact same thing regarding "stronger tylenol" in reference to tramadol from a nurse practitioner when I went to get something for my tooth pain a few years ago, and I had to go to somewhere else where they could prescribe controlled meds (it ended up being 15 tylenol 3s) because they were so weak. I would have rather taken the 30 50mg trams they offered - more potent than the codeine, longer lasting, etc., but, to reiterate, I heard the quote verbatim, "the strongest stuff I can prescribe it tramadol, which is like a stronger tylenol."

    By the way, the limit for tramadol and safety in regards to seizure threshold is 300mg over the course of 24 hours, according to the PI sheet (I'm certain it used to say 400mg, but it's been changed to 300mg on Rx-list now) and, I believe, either 100mg or 150mg in a single dose.
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    Default Re: Is it safe to take vicodin after taking tramadol?

    It did say 400mg oral (I am not aware that the recommendation has changed), 500mg injected.
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