PriCara non gel fentanyl patches thoughts/comments on them

[warbux]

Just wondering if anyone of yall have ran into these patches I never heard of them till the other day when the fentanyl fairy payed me a visit. he had 3 of the brand name fentanyl patches and 3 of these pricara ones. they were only the 50 mcg an hour ones and anyone that's used the myland ones know the contain 5.1 mgs of fent per patch but these pricara ones contain 8.4 mgs of fentanyl in the patch I'll probaly just me fold them in half and use them buccaly and possibly cut 1/4 off to run an extraction to make them smokeable. Just wanted some input from anyone that's got them before. They are made buy duragesic but by sub company Pricara that is a division of ortho-mcneil-janssen pharmceuticals.

[jdub]

I was waiting for someone to start a post on these. I got some last week. They say duragesic on the patch and from what I understand Duragesic has switched from gel to these dry patches, which pisses me off. They work ok bucally.

How were you planning to run an extraction? I put some in some iso with some old gel patches and they made the final product harsh as hell and nasty tasting.

So i guess if we want gels its Sandoz and Watsons from here on out?

[warbux]

I do believe they still have the gel brand name ones too not a 100% on it but the guy that SWIM got them from had both duragesic with gel and the duragesic non gel ones.

[warbux]

And also as far as running an iso extraction don't let it sit so forever in the solution cause more and more of the plastic can and will dissolve i haven't smoked non gel one befores besides running an iso extract and i never got any nasty harash plastic taste usually cut the peice as small as possible and use 91% iso and sitr and shake vigourously you could also try using a lesser potent iso and im sure there are other things that can extract it without effecting the plastic too much but as im not a real chemist just the street kind.

[jdub]

And also as far as running an iso extraction don't let it sit so forever in the solution cause more and more of the plastic can and will dissolve i haven't smoked non gel one befores besides running an iso extract and i never got any nasty harash plastic taste usually cut the peice as small as possible and use 91% iso and sitr and shake vigourously you could also try using a lesser potent iso and im sure there are other things that can extract it without effecting the plastic too much but as im not a real chemist just the street kind.

Just to clarify, you have run iso extractions on dry patches before? I have just used old gel ones until last month when I added the Pri Cara's and some old mylans. That was the first time I had the harsh nasty taste. If you have had success extracting dry patches before I'm gonna try it as I have a bunch.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Wow, I feel like an idiot I just started a thread similar to the OP's question. My bad admin...

I got those dry ones yall speak of but it is spent. I'm guessing it's worthless now?

[cynical_monstar]

Guys the dry plastic ones you speak of can be banged. They actually hit harder then the gel ones. My friend does them and this is how he does it. He simply cuts them up in small pieces and puts them in a spoon. He then adds half lemon juice and half water (about 1cc of both). He then boils it like anything else. Not a hard boil but a good consistent boil. He mashes it up with anything usually the back of the rig. It is best if they do not stick together but but this can be hard to accomplish. Then he boils it again for a little bit. He does not boil it real hard just till it comes to a decent boil. I have done one of the 50mcg's this way and they crush your ass.

When you chose a vein be sure to chose a larger one and for the love of God do not miss. They burn really really bad. If you use a small vein it will burn even if you are not missing it so please chose a decent one and none that s in your hand unless they are the "Junky Dreams".

Also be safe with this method. It produces a good rush but they a very dangerous and cause an OD.

The Gel ones I have always seen the gel squeezed in the back of the rig. About .3 cc in a 1cc rig. The boil water in pot on your stove and pull it up till about the .7cc line. Pull the plunger back to 1cc so there is some air in the rig and shake the shit out of it. Wait till it has cooled for atleast a minute and then bang it home. It does not create a rush but after about 5 minutes you are hammered. Doing it this way gets the most out of a patch. When you are done you can use the lemon juice method on the the plastic patch and get a decent shot.

[lotus]

^^^^shooting patches is stupid shit beyond stupid shit^^^^

i'm actually rubbing my eyes trying to decide if you're really talking about backloading gel into a syringe, then injecting it.

[cynical_monstar]

lotus- Yes I am talking about about back loading gel into a rig. I am also talking about banging the non gel patches. It is your opinion that it is stupid that is fine. However I find it to be a good buzz as does a lot of other people. Notice I posted to be very cautious with them. If you can not handle your dope don't do it.

I think there is sub forum on here for tramadol so why not go change your tampon, get some Monistat for that feminine itch, and use a scented douche and stop wasting band width? Read the thread topic and post something pertaining it instead of your half witted attempt at being humorous.

Also after you back load into a rig you need to draw up Boiling water from a pot and shake it till it is well mixed. NO MORE THEN .3CC's of gel or you will be visiting an ER and the Narcan shot sucks balls (not from my personal expierence but I have seen it adminstered to an OD for xanies and Heroin).

Eating them is dangerous and you waste a lot of the product. It is also hard to extimate how much you are consuming. This is far safer if you do it within reason and do not think you are 10 feet tall and bullet proof.

[lotus]

amazing.

[at&t]

agreed............... wtf dude......

Although I personally have never even so much as seen a fent patch, and for all I know, there might be a safe and convenient way to extract the fentanyl from the gel and binders and miscellaneous toxic plastic bullshit, after which, there *might* even be a way to reliably measure "safe" doses...

its just that-- no need to be a dick on the first day on the board man...

anyway... welcome to bluelight folks....
sigh.

[cracksinthepavement]

these are the days of our lives...

[cynical_monstar]

I see, cause this is my first day on the board my credibility is in question? For the lot of you that thinks the Gel patches are loaded with binders they are not. They are in a simple and harmless solution that allows fentanyl to be absorbed through your skin. Yes it is a less then ideal way to do it but an iso extraction is intelligent (isopropyl alcohol used have the skull and cross bones on them and I will let you guess why) ??

So let me get this right someone can be a smart ass regarding your posts and basically call you an idiot but when I fire back I am dick? hmmm......... I have no idea where you guys are from but I live in a place called reality and that is how the world goes round.

I offered a solution on how to do them and do them without having to chew on plastic which tastes like shit (which you already admit having no clue about). Fentanyl patches are extremely dangerous for the fact that the idiots chewing on them do not get an instant reaction and keep on consuming having no idea what is going on since they do not have buzz. I know of 3 people that have OD'd and died from this exact process. You know how many people I know that have passed from banging them? None. Not a fucking one. Excuse me if I am offering a valid point from expierence. After all what have the last 4 posts minus mine actually offered to the question at hand. Absolutly nothing. It is best when not knowing anything about the topic to not comment at all. Or maybe you should just keep chewing on the damn things and see how many people can die from the things. Maybe we can set a record?

I thought the point of this forum was to help each other out. Not to getting in a pissing contest. Offer something valuable or just keep youir mouths shut. It is simple. You idiots stir but once the shit hits the fan you can't stand the stink.

[Ickyuck]

^^^^shooting patches is stupid shit beyond stupid shit^^^^

i'm actually rubbing my eyes trying to decide if you're really talking about backloading gel into a syringe, then injecting it.

+1, +1, and.. +1.

[deathmau5]

I see, cause this is my first day on the board my credibility is in question? For the lot of you that thinks the Gel patches are loaded with binders they are not. They are in a simple and harmless solution that allows fentanyl to be absorbed through your skin. Yes it is a less then ideal way to do it but an iso extraction is intelligent (isopropyl alcohol used have the skull and cross bones on them and I will let you guess why) ??

So let me get this right someone can be a smart ass regarding your posts and basically call you an idiot but when I fire back I am dick? hmmm......... I have no idea where you guys are from but I live in a place called reality and that is how the world goes round.

I offered a solution on how to do them and do them without having to chew on plastic which tastes like shit (which you already admit having no clue about). Fentanyl patches are extremely dangerous for the fact that the idiots chewing on them do not get an instant reaction and keep on consuming having no idea what is going on since they do not have buzz. I know of 3 people that have OD'd and died from this exact process. You know how many people I know that have passed from banging them? None. Not a fucking one. Excuse me if I am offering a valid point from expierence. After all what have the last 4 posts minus mine actually offered to the question at hand. Absolutly nothing. It is best when not knowing anything about the topic to not comment at all. Or maybe you should just keep chewing on the damn things and see how many people can die from the things. Maybe we can set a record?

I thought the point of this forum was to help each other out. Not to getting in a pissing contest. Offer something valuable or just keep youir mouths shut. It is simple. You idiots stir but once the shit hits the fan you can't stand the stink.

Every single thing you have posted on this board has been terrible information, dangerous or threatening to the security of this site. I must say I think you are a complete idiot and will further disregard your posts. Is there an "ignore" option ... or better yet somebody slam the ban hammer on this cretin. OpioNoMoFoSho

[dharma bum]

I have no idea where you guys are from but I live in a place called reality and that is how the world goes round.

I thought the point of this forum was to help each other out. Not to getting in a pissing contest. Offer something valuable or just keep youir mouths shut. It is simple. You idiots stir but once the shit hits the fan you can't stand the stink.

No you do not live in a place called reality. You live in West Vagina and you sound just like the fools I used to see and have to deal with every day. So ironic that you are calling everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. Let's hope you didn't mean that toward Icky---no let's hope you did and pray that she bans your dumb ass quick like.

This is a HARM REDUCTION forum and you recommend backloading fentanyl for shooting? To quote Lotus---"Amazing"

[JonnyM]

No you do not live in a place called reality. You live in West Vagina and you sound just like the fools I used to see and have to deal with every day. So ironic that you are calling everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. Let's hope you didn't mean that toward Icky---no let's hope you did and pray that she bans your dumb ass quick like.

This is a HARM REDUCTION forum and you recommend backloading fentanyl for shooting? To quote Lotus---"Amazing"

Yep, he is one of those noobs, the ones that post dangerous information and then plug their ears and shouts "Im not listening, Im not listening" whenever someone corrects him.

Edit: The situations been dealt with... It always makes me proud seeing how we can self regulate and correct dangerous info.

<3

[dharma bum]

Damn. It only took ten post to get banned. That's gotta be a record. Awesomeness in action.

[deathmau5]

Yep, he is one of those noobs, the ones that post dangerous information and then plug their ears and shouts "Im not listening, Im not listening" whenever someone corrects him.

Edit: The situations been dealt with... It always makes me proud seeing how we can self regulate and correct dangerous info.

<3

:cool:

[Woody Bear]

I know he's been banned, but as he wrote about using lemon juice I had to add this piece.

What are the dangers of lemon juice?

Lemon juice, both from freshly squeezed lemons and packaged lemon juice sold for cooking, contains citric acid and is sometimes used to dissolve brown heroin for injection.

There is research showing that lemon juice can carry fungal infections, which can infect the heart (endocarditis) and eyes (candidal endopthalmitis). The candidal fungi lives on the skins of the lemons when they are growing on the tree, when the lemons are processed the fungus is transferred to the juice.

Among needle exchange workers attending our safer injecting courses during 2000/1, there was a rapid increase in awful stories of eyesight loss due to candidal endopthalmitis amongst their clients.

This was almost caused by the difficulties drug users were experiencing in buying citric acid, and the resulting increase in the use of lemon juice and vinegar as acidifiers, and was a significant part of the reason we were so motivated to source and supply sachets.

Candidal fungal contamination of vinigar is also possible.

Source: http://www.exchangesupplies.org/need...mon_juice.html

So if shooting something, don't use vinegar or lemon juice, use citric or ascorbic acid instead. Vinegar and lemon juice are NOT safe to shoot. If your local needle exchange doesn't carry citric acid, then you can buy it from home brew websites. But in the USA, the heroin is already in a water soluble form, so extra acid is not needed.

Also fentanyl citrate is water soluble already, so no extra acid is needed, but the patches are too dangerous to be used by shooting, even smoking is bad enough. Cheeking a strip of the cloth patches work, and is about the safest way of getting high from patches, but they are very, very dangerous, and loads of people die from abusing them, so abusing fentanyl is just not worth the risk.

[OxyMainiac]

I was so excited when my doc agreed to write "DAW" on the scripts so I can get the brand Duragesic patches and Pri-Cara came along and ruined it for me. I tried the ISO extraction but they taste like ass when I smoke them. Or is that just me? When I cheek them, I place a folded up piece of paper towel in my mouth for a couple minutes, specifically on my cheek to dry it up. When its dried up enough, I place the strip on the dry spot (and it actually sticks pretty good), I put a new folded up wad of paper towel over it to keep the area around it dry. Otherwise it would slide right off my cheek in a matter of minutes. This process seems to work very well for me.

Good Luck!