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    Default IV morphine vs Oral

    Ok so morphine was the first opiate ive had, well that i abused so ive been taking it for about 2 years now daily with pretty much no breaks no longer than a 4 day break id say. No i have experienced every ROA Oral, IV, IM, Plugging, and snorting, well i haven't smoked it and im not stupid enough to waste it by doing so. Now my question i have been iving the drug for the past week because i have to conserve and while i love that rush it lasts for about 3 min, leaving me with a slight glow for another hour or so. Now if i take it orally like i usually do i get a very very similar rush that lasts for at least an hour that starts to taper off during the second hour and then im glowing for the next 4-5 hours at least. And i dont need to dose again for atleast 24hours. If i ived more would i get a similar experience like when i dose orally or is this as good as it gets?

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    Well if you are trying to be conservative with the morphine and you say that orally lasts longer, then I would just take it orally. Is it MSIR or ER? Plugging it would also be a good compromise that falls somewhere in between oral and iv...
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    Funny i have been thinking the same thing especially now. I was banging the ER version and damn those are much easier to prep, i just got my MSIR yesterday and they are so fucking big there is so much powder left over when i filter it, they are 10mg pills and i think im getting like 4mg out of each pill not to mention its impossible to filter out all that powder ever after 4 fucking tries. With the ER version the ones in canada they are little beads ive been using the 60mg ones, all i do is crush filter and look under a lite and the water is crystal clear. I think ill try to plug the MSIR its to much work to try and get them to fit into a little insulin syringe. The one upside is i know for a fact ive got like 4 more of those MsContin 60 kicking around in my room somewhere.

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    I've got both 10 mg Sevradol morphine tablets (IR's) and 10 mg modified release morphine capsules (with the beads). Which I use by plugging.

    The modified release capsules have a tiny, tiny amount of beads inside, but the morphine tablets are pretty chunky. I crush them up in a mortar and pestle and I have been able to filter out all of the powder by filtering through cotton pads placed in a syringe barrel. But it takes 3 rinses to get every through, so for 2x tablets, I'm left with 6 mL water.

    So for the morphine tablets, there is absolutely no way that I'd be able to extract the morphine and get all the liquid into a 1 mL syringe. But for the modified release capsules, this would not be a problem.

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    Default Re: IV morphine vs Oral

    Quote Originally Posted by Swellin View Post
    Ok so morphine was the first opiate ive had, well that i abused so ive been taking it for about 2 years now daily with pretty much no breaks no longer than a 4 day break id say. No i have experienced every ROA Oral, IV, IM, Plugging, and snorting, well i haven't smoked it and im not stupid enough to waste it by doing so. Now my question i have been iving the drug for the past week because i have to conserve and while i love that rush it lasts for about 3 min, leaving me with a slight glow for another hour or so. Now if i take it orally like i usually do i get a very very similar rush that lasts for at least an hour that starts to taper off during the second hour and then im glowing for the next 4-5 hours at least. And i dont need to dose again for atleast 24hours. If i ived more would i get a similar experience like when i dose orally or is this as good as it gets?
    Start IV'ing and your tolerence is going to fast climb sky high. Judging by what you have said regards rush/afterglow and that you have tolerated 4 days break, my guess is that you are close to the turn around point - which is now going to rush up on you (excuse pun) with your IV'ing.

    MO is a pure agonist - there is no upper level: the more you take it the more you need to take to achieve the same effect. MO also has a pretty piss poor effect taken oraly - your body actualy absorbs only around 1/3rd the total amount taken orally. Contrast this with orally taken Oxy - which has around 3/4 avaliability when taken orally.

    My advice to anyone who has just started IV'ing - back off now while you can: in a years time you are going to find it a lot more harder to back off, and a year after that it will be even harder.

    Stay with the oral stuff - yes, even if that means moving on to oral Oxy: and there are a 1001 plausible and very genuine excuses one can give the doc to change from MO to OXY - most folk sleep better on Oxy, they eat better, they have a clearer head, don;t suffer as much constipation blah blah, blah blah ....

    Oxy does have one down side: its effect profile is steeper and a lot of folk complain about greater psychological stress associated with Oxy withdrawal in the early part of cold turkey, than the "stress" associated with coming down from MO - though at the end of the day the physical side of it tends to be much the same after 24hrs or so.#

    Whatever you do, my personal advice - stay away from the needle if you can: from the needle and MO it's such a short hop to Heroin - and things only go downhill fast from there.

    I wish you all the best.

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