IV Liquid Methadone

[egizzel417]

i know at my clinic we have the clear liquid methadone (says roxane on the bottles) ive heard of them havingt problems with a couple people iv'ing their doses.... j/w if anyone would care to share an experience ... the ppl at the clinic said its very dangerous somthing to do with iron in the done and collapsing veins... idk who knows

lol one more thing i didnt want to make a big topic about this but... for all you mmt patients about constipation.... do you ever get the crawts? (shitballs) i feel like a fucking chicken on a nest sometimes spittin little shit eggs out 4 and 5 at a time then sometimes when u been stopped up for a while you get the snowman link when all your eggs get smashed together and you can finally pinch off a nice hearty snowman chud aaaaahhhh the relif!

[OxiContinKing]

i feel violated pretty much regularly, and what is amazing to me, is when coming out, it feels like a fucking bowling ball, but when you turn around to 'examine', its the size of a fucking pebble.

its like your asshole hates things leaving, so it puckers up to prevent anything from escaping without a fight...

the joys of opiates...

[Duckfeet]

Yup: it's probably the main thing I had about methadone, and those "little had balls" are a sign to me that I'm not really having a bowel movement, just straining hard and a little falls off this is good time to take milk of magnesia and get a real bowel movement, as this--to me--is just an indicator that I'm already a "couple days behind," and I can live with that for a few days,but it almost always gets worse....well,that's main reason I've crawled back down on methadone again, to just about zero...beneath 20mg daily is usually where I start having 'normal' bms...

And I'd do a search for the fixing clear liquid methadone...there was an *endless* thread w/much arguing and stuff about that, and if you could find it, this one guy made a pretty convincing case for fixing the clear shit...for some reason, I wasn't convinced, but I've always gotten koolaid, and the few threads I read, saying how wonderful fixing *that* was, were unconvincing...or downright dangerous...I get on methadone to get *away* from all that...but if I had some 'clear' laying around, it'd probably be just like subutex: I'd just *have* to try it....

[EleusisII]

IVing methadone? That's an easy one, don't fucking do it... It's like IVing coughsyrup or something, or trying to perfom loops and barrelrolls with a jumbojet: It's not going to be pretty, and you'll die eventually.

[Restharrow]

Hey Duckfeet,

Have you tried Miralax every day for 2 weeks? I tried it and tried it and tried it, and gave up a BUNCH of times until my doctor talked me into trying it every day. If I take a single dose everymorning as soon as I wake up, after 10 to 14 days, I "normalize" -- and stay normal as long as I take the Miralax dose.

And I had constipation so bad, that I had decided to GIVE UP opiates and live in pain. They had given me some type of Naloxone deriviative and it caused me to go into WD as well as have a BM, so I was desparate.

It works best if you take 1/2 dose per day for a week then start a regular dose for 2 weeks, so in a total of 2 to 3 weeks, I went from what I thought was untreatable constipation to totally normal. But it has to be used as a preventative.

I know I sound like a Miralax spokesman, but I was having severe panic attacks regarding constipation. For years, while sitting on the commode, promising God I would quit opiates, promising God I would never masterbate again, ANYTHING just to have a bowel movement. As soon as I had the BM, I forgot about the problem and did not get on the Miralax. When I finally started using the Miralax daily as a preventative, it really worked for me.

Sorry to the OP to hijack this thread. I just realized what I was doing, but after all this typing, the SEND button is impossible to ignore.
Will

[Duckfeet]

No, I never tried that: I tried miralax, but never the way you said...I'm probably dropping down to 5mg today, when I go to clinic, and I'm not sure what I"m going to do: if I think I can actually stay off methadone, this time, I'll probably go ahead and "jump" in a few weeks...but I appreciate this post: my dilemma is whether or not I should just put up w/the aggravation of going to the clinic, and stay on this really small dose, which does nothing, so I can go back up if craving or pain, starts getting really bad: as short acting opies just seem to be wonderful, then predictably terrible, as I've ended up back on heroin, too many times, in last few years...and only reason I'm probably *not* still strung out on smack is that it's tar, and I hate tar, and veins can't take it...

And I"m no fan of methadone, but I"d probably resign myself to staying at 50mg daily, until I think I can go somewhere where I stand at least a chance of getting on heroin maintenance, but I'm not delusional about that, so who knows...

But what you wrote really does give me hope: maybe if I started doing this *before* I needed it, if I started going back up again, it might keep me from getting to far "behind" in my bms...as for me, once I got past 3 or 4 days without one, it gets more and more inevitable that I'll be drinking the green slime which is just about impossible for me to keep down...

Yeah, thread was hijacked, but that's Opy: not the 1st time, haha,,,,thankyou!

Hey Duckfeet,

Have you tried Miralax every day for 2 weeks? I tried it and tried it and tried it, and gave up a BUNCH of times until my doctor talked me into trying it every day. If I take a single dose everymorning as soon as I wake up, after 10 to 14 days, I "normalize" -- and stay normal as long as I take the Miralax dose.

And I had constipation so bad, that I had decided to GIVE UP opiates and live in pain. They had given me some type of Naloxone deriviative and it caused me to go into WD as well as have a BM, so I was desparate.

It works best if you take 1/2 dose per day for a week then start a regular dose for 2 weeks, so in a total of 2 to 3 weeks, I went from what I thought was untreatable constipation to totally normal. But it has to be used as a preventative.

I know I sound like a Miralax spokesman, but I was having severe panic attacks regarding constipation. For years, while sitting on the commode, promising God I would quit opiates, promising God I would never masterbate again, ANYTHING just to have a bowel movement. As soon as I had the BM, I forgot about the problem and did not get on the Miralax. When I finally started using the Miralax daily as a preventative, it really worked for me.

Sorry to the OP to hijack this thread. I just realized what I was doing, but after all this typing, the SEND button is impossible to ignore.
Will

[runormal]

Have you tried Miralax every day for 2 weeks? I tried it and tried it and tried it, and gave up a BUNCH of times until my doctor talked me into trying it every day. If I take a single dose everymorning as soon as I wake up, after 10 to 14 days, I "normalize" -- and stay normal as long as I take the Miralax dose.

Good suggestion - I take lactulose every day and found the same thing, which is that I have to take it everyday for it to work. I am on 100mg day MMT and will have some weeks where I can go every day, and then others like today where it is day 3 and no luck. I think when I have this happen it is diet related, so I have promised myself that I am going to eat only heathy along with the lactulose from now on.

[God_Albino]

i only get the rectangle tablets but i started shooting them a couple months ago, it might not be a mindblowing rush but it does more for me than dillys ever did.

hope to fuck the 'iron' in em isnt killing me, then again youre talking about the liquid shit so i dunno

[lib.sOCialist]

No, I never tried that: I tried miralax, but never the way you said...I'm probably dropping down to 5mg today, when I go to clinic, and I'm not sure what I"m going to do: if I think I can actually stay off methadone, this time, I'll probably go ahead and "jump" in a few weeks...but I appreciate this post: my dilemma is whether or not I should just put up w/the aggravation of going to the clinic, and stay on this really small dose, which does nothing, so I can go back up if craving or pain, starts getting really bad: as short acting opies just seem to be wonderful, then predictably terrible, as I've ended up back on heroin, too many times, in last few years...and only reason I'm probably *not* still strung out on smack is that it's tar, and I hate tar, and veins can't take it...

And I"m no fan of methadone, but I"d probably resign myself to staying at 50mg daily, until I think I can go somewhere where I stand at least a chance of getting on heroin maintenance, but I'm not delusional about that, so who knows...

But what you wrote really does give me hope: maybe if I started doing this *before* I needed it, if I started going back up again, it might keep me from getting to far "behind" in my bms...as for me, once I got past 3 or 4 days without one, it gets more and more inevitable that I'll be drinking the green slime which is just about impossible for me to keep down...

Yeah, thread was hijacked, but that's Opy: not the 1st time, haha,,,,thankyou!

wow duck, im so happy for you, i wish you UBER good luck with your jump.

and to OP, methadone is the only opie to turn my shits into a Turducken (a duck shoved inside of a chicken, shoved inside of a turkey) just picture that for me.......<3

[OxiContinKing]

it might not be a mindblowing rush but it does more for me than dillys ever did.

huh? methadone did more to you in terms of a rush than dillys?

:eek:

the only way to get a rush (and it still isnt what i would consider 'worthwhile', nothing like the dope rush) from methadones, is a) if you have a syringe big enough to hold a couple of pills (if your trying to shoot the pills), or b) have a turkey baster or equivalent sized syringe to draw up a considerable amount of the the liquid, and if your clinic dilutes it (most due, for this very reason), obviously the more you would need. ive heard of people literally tying their arm off, having multiple insulin syringes full of 'koolaid' already ready, hitting themselves multiple times, and then they would untie, this is some dumb shit to do, and by far not worth the danger you are chancing, so please, i reapeat, please, do not attempt this method.

[Citrus]

...I've never tried it-- but I heard IV hydromorphone was the shit.

[sullen]

...I've never tried it-- but I heard IV hydromorphone was the shit.

It is, as good as moderate dope
SWIM had a D8 last night, god damn....
Even with the blocking maintenance meds swim is on,
still yummy

Bottom line, don't IV Methadone.
Not worth it, there are other alternatives if you must slam something.
Seek those out.

[ryan]

According to heroinhelper, methadone is 3times stronger when consumed orally in comparison to IV.
Not to mention you are going to be IVing a solution that is meant for oral use.
Either way it's a dumb idea...no offence.

[Duckfeet]

to me, it's like fixing subutex...boring, and too much hassle...no real euphoria, just "needle fever" run amuck ...the additives probably aren't as bad for you as tar, but who knows...they certainly aren't made for it...just crush up a couple of darvocets and stir them up with koolaid, and you'll get the same results...

[duck]

just crush up a couple of darvocets and stir them up with koolaid, and you'll get the same results...

should I add heat or just cold mix?

[Deadfiend]

I would add red bull myself......

[nick]

IV methadone is a waste of time and veins.

More importantly,this forum is read by anti methadone groups that edit and use our words for their own ends.So,please think about that before answering threads like this.

[ryan]

IV methadone is a waste of time and veins.

More importantly,this forum is read by anti methadone groups that edit and use our words for their own ends.So,please think about that before answering threads like this.

Well they can lick my sack after I've been in withdrawal for 5 days without a shower...how about that!?

[Chipper]

I always like to add that it's not possible to maintain on an IV dose - you will metabolise it much faster and start to withdraw after 12 hours. It's always been that way for me so it's actually a waste. It's also damn near impossible to detox when taking the IV route.

[IceCold]

I've been Iv'ing my done lately. Somewhat of a rush. To me it seems more effective.

[struggler]

I tried banging some of the malli 10mg dones a couple years back and never got any rush at all from it. Zero nadda none. Learned real quick it was a waste. I've only taken the liquid orally. The dillies though, got ta love that dillie rush. I cant wait till they are available to me again.

Strug

[IceCold]

Forgot to add I'm on 50mg (I've been tapering down from 110mg for about 6 months. Been clean the whole time) I put the whole 50mg (5ml) in a 10ml rig with a 25gauge needle. Didn't seem to bother my veins at all. Like duckfeet said it probably is better for one than shooting tar.

[Dolofinell]

Yeah my brother and I been on done for 5 years. Cherry flavored Mallinkrodt , nothing added to takehomes. We both been clean for the whole time to anyone who considers that clean ( I do). I've never Iv'd, but he's shot his takehomes every weekend for that whole time. He's doin great owns his own bus., still uses the same veins he started w/ says he still gets a great rush. aLL THE BAD SHIT i read about it I cant believe his veins there are still usable, I tell him to stop that shit everyday,he wont.
Im sorry I know thats terrible for harm reduction.He's gotta have steel veins. ?????? Anyway again my .02cents

[matfield]

It's also damn near impossible to detox when taking the IV route.

Hey chipper! you are so right about the faster metabolism! but what did you mean by that last sentence?

[Chipper]

Hey chipper! you are so right about the faster metabolism! but what did you mean by that last sentence?

I mean that if you try to taper and you're IV'ing your dose then you will get hung up on the needle and want to keep shooting. Then eventually, when you get down low, after putting up with feeling extra lousy for a greater portion of the 24 hour period when compared to oral, you will be tempted to raise your dose so you can feel it or feel better.

Well, that's my experience but I think it would apply to most.