My Smoking FENT GUIDE

[Princess]

ONE QUESTION

do you feel it right away or does it creep up on you (how long?/this is smoked)

You (well, I) feel it pretty quickly. It can/does creep up if you keep going.... I say that if you you are new to smoking fent & you feel it, take a break.

And I agree with drying it... put a small amount on foil and let it dry. Much better hits with smoking it dry

Be SAFE!

[More Feen]

The last time swIm smoked a wee fent blobby, using methods similar to those mentioned above,I felt thousands of little "pops" all over my brain.

I thought this was the fent binding to my mu receptors.

It was kinda nice, but not exactly euphoric.

NE1 else experience similar effects?

[Dan Steely]

The last time swIm smoked a wee fent blobby, using methods similar to those mentioned above,I felt thousands of little "pops" all over my brain.

I thought this was the fent binding to my mu receptors.

It was kinda nice, but not exactly euphoric.

NE1 else experience similar effects?

like pop rocks in your brain? that can't be good.

[djnarkotik]

i fucking almost killed myself putting the non gel patch under my tongue hell im not smoking it

but i tried smoking heroin wow

[Inspektahdek]

Always experience euphoria here, a nice rush especially on that brand new patch


Oh but I always use them as directed and worn right?


update: I get 12 patches a month but I'm trying to convince my new doctor because I was getting all of my meds before from the klinikum surgeons office in orthopedics but now that I have a new doctor they put it back on 72 hours, but like I said this doctor is trying to consult a pain specialist first until I can go back on 48 hours. Then I would get 16 a month on the way I'm RX'd

[snave2222]

Thanks for posting this guide, I've followed the instructions as exactly as I could understand them, but didn't quite get it.


I get 10 100 mcg Sandoz brand patches per month and I'll maybe use one or two trying to smoke off foil or just absorb intranasally or bucally... I seem to get more high bucaly.

Then I roll the foil up on the sides into a dome and make sure there is an opening at the top atleast the size of a dime better yet nickle size for US currency.

A dome? How do you get a dome out of something square? The best I can manage is a cylinder with the edges poking in amd out a little. Should I make the whole about the size of the pen. that I am using to inhale through? If the size at the top is a nickel, then that's a lot bigger than a pen.

I don't see any smoke or vapor until the gel dries out and turns tan/brownish in color. Should I see vapor smoke before this? Am I doing something wrong? Is there fent coming up even though I can't see any vapor?

Thanks in advance for any help I get on this!

[Inspektahdek]

Thanks for posting this guide, I've followed the instructions as exactly as I could understand them, but didn't quite get it.


I get 10 100 mcg Sandoz brand patches per month and I'll maybe use one or two trying to smoke off foil or just absorb intranasally or bucally... I seem to get more high bucaly.




A dome? How do you get a dome out of something square? The best I can manage is a cylinder with the edges poking in amd out a little. Should I make the whole about the size of the pen. that I am using to inhale through? If the size at the top is a nickel, then that's a lot bigger than a pen.

I don't see any smoke or vapor until the gel dries out and turns tan/brownish in color. Should I see vapor smoke before this? Am I doing something wrong? Is there fent coming up even though I can't see any vapor?

Thanks in advance for any help I get on this!

sandoz should work, I've heard they're similar to the brand US duragesic and the EU DEUROGESIC like I get. A dome? practice practice meine friend! After you make your blob and even out the surface as flat as possible and give a little time for drying, lamp, blow dryer on low cool setting, placing the foil in a curved shape and on the output of your laptops (if u have one) or maybe even a destop's fan works for me after a little bit.

Then I take the square, start slight foliding the ends in a clock motion a few times and then mesh the square shape and cross over starting to make it spherical, keep doing this until the top output gets smaller and smaller and keep overlapping until it's slightly larger than your inhale device, I use hollowed out pins maybe 7-10mm diameter.

then take the top of the now "dome" and fold inward making the meshed sides blend to each other making a more secure sctructure, if needed, do more foldingo on the sides a little until you have that MAKESHIFT DOME slightly larger than the inhale device. then place your inhale device in and press all sides together and apply pressure so it's a tight fit to the dome on the device and make sure you get a little inhale exhale action but not alot because some fent will escape.but enough to allow slightly adequate circulation for hits, then you're SET! Fire that rocket! :cool:



read the endo of your post, bucally or my preferred other method with completely spend patches is sublingual, chewing to spread the patch out every 10-15 minutes or so, chew chew chew, not swallowing the best you can, swallowing is a waste because oral PO admin is very very low, bucal and sublingual is alot better, or even sticking it inbetween the front gum and lip, I do this for about an hour or two until I completely taste NO FENT! This is what I used to before I got smart and started smoking them, the high is way better IMO/IME: bucal and sublingual, my preferred high that method is sublingual and also, I can take a completely spent patch, either worn or smoked completely out and even with a GELDAUTOMAT (ATM CARD) Karte and even nod! Bucal and sublingual's time of feeling it is slightly longer, maybe 15 minuites longer than smoking but myself and many other on this site ATTEST that smoking is the best method for the best buzz you search for bruv'


bassling slektah! You better, and then saw oh shit DEK' you were right! I've received such comments and commendation from many who finally got the smoking down, remember, I used to only use mine bucal and sublingual before I got the smoking down, and once you go there, it's hard to go back to anything else! AND NEVER IV FENT AND TREAT IT WITH RESPECT OR DEATH WILL COME, FENT IS SCARY, SERIOUS SHIT, NOT FOR THE UNEDUCATED, not you bruv' but others who don't know any better and end up dying because they didn't know any better of it's potency! best of luck to you and you finding the holy grail of fent!


peace bruv',

Inspektahdek
Der König von Fentanyl

[Inspektahdek]

i fucking almost killed myself putting the non gel patch under my tongue hell im not smoking it

but i tried smoking heroin wow

yes doing this in my older days was the once time I almost OD'd on fent and had to walk around outside in a circle guzzling caffeine and playing a dance dance revolution game because I was nodding so hard I was almost falling down playing dance dance revolution to get my sugar and blood BPM up! If you have, use, or are RX'd fent, I highly reccomend buying caffeine pills because no matter how you use fent, you will find yourself nodded out or actually passed out at the weirdest unpredicted times, I have cigarette burns all over shit in my new flat. sheets have been caught on fire before because of fent use, I've lit my couch on fire with a cigarette, lost a few keys on my keyboard on my laptop, and have burn through the internal mouse square that doesn't work anymore, although all the keys work still, just burnt, and this is an Alienware!


be careful, oh and only if fent's smoking prowess longevity was anything like heroins' ah oh well! How have you been fellow DJ???

[ominouscastle]

I've been on 10 100mcr patches a month for almost half a year. I live in Alabama, and it's gotten to where I have to go out of town to find Watsons since I smoke not wear. I use methadone for breakthrough pain. Anyway, today I found a small pharmacy in my town that carried Sandoz brand. Before getting them, I got online to make sure they were gel and not matrix like mylan. Once I found out they were I bought them. When I got home and began to prepare everything I noticed the patches didn't seem to have nearly as much gel as the Watson. Don't let this fool you into thinking you're getting gyped. A needle drop of that shit will knock you on your ass. Be careful. I have a very high tolerance and that one drop beat heroin all to hell. Anyway, just wanted to warn everyone on Sandoz to RESPECT it. It's extremely potent shit.

[Inspektahdek]

I've been on 10 100mcr patches a month for almost half a year. I live in Alabama, and it's gotten to where I have to go out of town to find Watsons since I smoke not wear. I use methadone for breakthrough pain. Anyway, today I found a small pharmacy in my town that carried Sandoz brand. Before getting them, I got online to make sure they were gel and not matrix like mylan. Once I found out they were I bought them. When I got home and began to prepare everything I noticed the patches didn't seem to have nearly as much gel as the Watson. Don't let this fool you into thinking you're getting gyped. A needle drop of that shit will knock you on your ass. Be careful. I have a very high tolerance and that one drop beat heroin all to hell. Anyway, just wanted to warn everyone on Sandoz to RESPECT it. It's extremely potent shit.

ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE!!

[devilsdrug]

damn dont put the whole damn thing in ur mouth

[waggz]

damn dont put the whole damn thing in ur mouth

my first experiment with 25mcg mylans was just a lil tiblit cut from my first patch which was worn for proly a good 8 hours or so. it was probably the width of hmm... ---- yay big give or take a dash. but neways.. after sucking chewing but not swallowing for proly a good hour i barely got ne euphoria out of this. the next test (next day of course) was proly half of the patch and same procedure i received a numbing like feeling for proly a good 10 minutes. the next nite i did as quoted haha i stuck the entire patch in my mouth. for the first time i could taste the fent and right than i knew this would be a good nite i probly sucked n sucked for a good hour or so and once i felt the onset, i took the patch out. once it was dried out i attached it back onto my shoulder. the euphoric feeling lasted for proly a good 30 mins which was my goal. i was hoping for it to last atleast an hour but 30 mins will work. so im assuming its because of the small dosage of the patch or my oxy tolerance has already affected my fent tolerance.

one thing i do remember though.. from my first nerve block procedure was that when they gave me a vile of IV fent and some other sedative ive never heard of... they had to use double if not 2.5 the amount of fent that they would give a patient. after the first push of fent she said id start to feel dizzy and than fall asleep. i remember laying there just feeling like i was floating in heaven.. god damn i cant wait for this feeling again this coming monday!!! but neways back to the story haha... she asked me if i was still awake and if i was feeling the fent. of course i said ya sort of but im not sleepy. so my pd says give him 2 more pushes. im assuming push meaning give it fast? after the first push i was knocked out cold. so who knows if i was given nemore haha .... but after about 20-25 minutes i was waking up and almost kicked one of the nurses so they had to give me more. no i dont remember consciously doing this but now that i think of it its really weird. reason i know is because i do remember waking up in my wheel chair in the waiting room. my father told me about the nurse thing and now after experimenting with the patches i almost wonder if i already have a tolerance to fent. is this even possible guys??

as for the gel patches... is there anyway for you to stick the patch on.. than say 5-8 hours later take the patch off.. poking a small needle hole and than re-attach the patch to your skin???? or would the best way be.. to cover the small hole by cutting off a small piece of band aid and place it to the patch? im talking about these small square bandaids. not the whole thing of course.
would this work? would nebody be willing to test this idea? i dont get my new script for another 2 weeks i think. and im hoping when i see my pdd modnay i get to talk with him about my current situation. and than ill have new scripts of higher dose patches aswell as better BT meds. hopefully hell let me try the actiqs.. those things sound like a blast!!!

[whiterobot122]

Alright, so swim picked up a patch of 100mcg/h fentanyl. Now I did not get to see the actual labeling, but am almost positive it is a sandoz due to the low amount of gel in it. Now I've been vaping very small amounts off of foil, keeping the lighter about 5 inches from the fent, just taking my time. I feel a 'behind the eyes' type opiate high, but my pupils are not pin point, I have little euphoria, I feel good no doubt. What can I do to better this? I have a moderate opiate tolerance, please help me!

Edit, what about Rectal absorption? Can I plug fentanyl?

[Inspektahdek]

no plugging, however, make sure the foil container where the hollowed shaft is is completely blocked all the way around, you can inhale and know if there is a leak somewhere by feeling around for loose air that is being blown and then pinch or wrap a little harder on that and try to make sure the blob is centered at all times.

Also don't use SWIM if you're going to say "I" right afterwards, lol

try it again with the advice and make sure as soon as the flame hits you're already inhaling and try to keep it in, just like MJ. Same breathing/inhalation technique. Post again so we know if you've found a way to make it work. At first when I started smoking it I wasn't getting as much as I did after practice and pratice, at first I was losing alot of FENT from leakage, etc.

[whiterobot122]

Swim picked it up, therefore I did not see the actual package, thats what I'm getting at haha. Alright, I'm letting about the size glob you posted dry out on a spoon, its already turning to flakes so I'm going to scrape a little amount and try the technique again, I'll post back in a little. Thanks!

[Inspektahdek]

no problem and remember if you still completely are not getting it to work, you can always try very small pices and stick it in the cheek bucally or under the tongue which was my preferred method before I got the smoking GIG down. Just be careful with those two administrations, start off really light and work from there, wait 30 minutes inbetween dosing that way if you can't get smoking to work.


GOOD LUCK TO YOU!

[whiterobot122]

Alright so I just gave it another ago, smoked quite a few flakes off foil, it definantly sent an opiated feeling throughout my body, head mostly, you all know that cold/numbing/tingly feeling. Am I expecting too much? Or is fent a clean high? I'm use to Oxy body buzz

[Inspektahdek]

it's a pretty clean high, but very VERY EUPHORIC to me, the numbing and tingling is right on track and I feel like I'm wrapped in an electric blanket and it's freezing on the exterior, basically it makes me feel warm and secure. Try holding in the hits as long as possible and as soon as you get the lighter anywhere near it, start inhaling as fast as possible.

I don't smoke mine in flakes nor gel, but I find a good median, I let the blob sit for a little bit on the side of my laptops heat fan and it's ALIENWARE I bought on the net so it has a nice graphics card that blows out alot of heat I sort of bend the foil right on the side of that and about 15-20 minutes later I have a piece that's not pieces of flake it's like glue and is spread out is concentrated.

With the flakes, you have to make sure there's no escape on the smoking device and keep the hits in long because the flakes go faster and are strong yet easy to ruin if you don't hold it in long or if you were to suck it incorrectly into the hollowed shaft, I do flakes sometimes, but mostly I like it about half dry and half wet that's where I personally got the best out of it in my opinion.

My blobs started to get huge, I was smoking a 25mcg patch "WORTH" of gel and make a huge BLOB about the size a little smaller than a dime, then I would have enough for a good 45 min to an hour of lounging and sparking the festivities up!! When it's half dry/wet, you still receive a nice reassuring sizzle, some of it is the alcohol contents coming off some of the wetness and you get that OH SO DELICIOUS taste and after several hits it boils down to almost flake and dry form completely and then comes the best hits of all and my head is buzzing hard with endorphins...........ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhh.................. such a great rush feeling.

I hope that helps, practice makes you better and better! Just be careful and after some successful hits and a good feeling rolls over your body feeling ecstatic, give it a 20 minute break or so, so you don't overdo it. There have been countless times I've exhaled and hit my head on my computer desk without even knowing until the head hit hard. Another thread I mentioned I've sat on the WC toilet and fell face first into the ground and hit my headwith my pants down, head bangs right on the floor because I was nodding so far and much on fent.

JUST BE CAREFUL if you start getting serious with that! That's why my name says "The Artist Formerly Known As" because PTO Mom and I used to be the King and Queen of FENT. I gave up the FENT because I was getting out of control with it. Too many and too much at a time and I would wake up after sleeping @ 4-5:AM jonesing ofr a hit and take a few big hits and go back to sleep. The FENT was consuming me because of it's short half life I would constantly be taking hits.


I miss my Fentanyl yet -- Done' takes care of me now. I wish I could have both, C'est la vie!

[lister40]

I need to find a better way to use fent. I love smoking it, and I sometimes get used patches and put them in my mouth and that gets me good. The used patches have a lot of fent still left in it.. I let it dry out. Well I get my supply near the first of the month.. I got some crappy nongel patches, I was pissed.. wasn't the same, it made me lose my memory, I get gel patches every 3 days (used) and they keep me good for like 2 hours MAYBE.. it sucks having a high tolerance, but I'm gonna pitch in like $50 and my friend is too and I'm going to take like 7 and give him 3, addiction sucks lllllllllllllmao. I remember I used 2 in one night and thought that was bad.. but I get to the point where I start puking and I don't feel any better. I've been on the bathroom floor too many times when using fent. It makes me really sick sometimes.. I always vomit when I use more than 1 patch a day.. I make my short supply last 2 days =( then I wait another 28 for more.

[TheFentGuy]

really, nothing is too much better than smoking fent.. I have a very serious question though, that no one has any answers to. Who's to say that smoking fent isn't REALLY bad for your lungs? For all we know, we could have cancer in the lungs in a matter of years.. WE have NO idea.. if someone dose, please shed some light. Makes me pretty nervous, as SWIM is only 19, and has smoked so many 100 µg patches that he has lost count. And SWIM can EASILY smoke an entire patch in a day.

[chemiKalz]

Sorry to say fentguy, but I doubt Dek is worrying about lung cancer, our dear friend dek overdosed and passed on about a year ago, it seems like yesterday i was chatting with him.

[TheFentGuy]

Sorry to say fentguy, but I doubt Dek is worrying about lung cancer, our dear friend dek overdosed and passed on about a year ago, it seems like yesterday i was chatting with him.

well, chemiKalz, if you would re-read my post, i'm clearly NOT talking about Dek.. There's plenty of people on this board that smoke fent, and I was just seeing if anyone had any insight.. your response is WAY out of left field....?

[chemiKalz]

hey man no need to get touchy, i was simply remembering a friend, it was his thread and your reply to it broiught it back up to active topics, making me think of him, dont get your panties in a bunch bro

[Cherry's Jubilee]

hey man no need to get touchy, i was simply remembering a friend, it was his thread and your reply to it broiught it back up to active topics, making me think of him, dont get your panties in a bunch bro

yeah wtf? defensive much FENTguy?

[mtren]

Would this method work for iving it as well? I mean squeeze the gel together and poke a hole and put a very small dot in the spOon and mix it with water? I never had the gel fent before. Well in fact I've only had the nongel patch once in my life either and I just stuck it on. But I was just wondering if this would work for an iv? Idk anything about fent I'm just asking u know. If its really dumb I obviously wouldn't do it I'm just interested. And is smoking fent just like on another level then smoking other opiates? Idk I've smoked h and ocs a few times it got me high and was cool and aLl but I wasn't about to od from it. The reason I'm asking is cuz my guy got me a gel path to try and I'm wondering what to so with it. I have a high tolerance

[OrangeLude]

mtren...this is a very old thread that you've brougt back...perhaps if you have one patch and you're looking for a good way to use it...the instuctions inspecta left behind work as well as any...even with a big tolerence any use of Fent should be with caution...shit is creeper high and when you go to feel it more - that's when danger signals/red flags go off for me. my .02 ymmv

[Uncle Wiggly]

IVing Fent gel is a good way to win a dirt nap. Smoke it if your tolerance is high. Please start small and be careful.

Be prepared for your tolerance to skyrocket if you get a Fent habit.

[Computerdoc80]

Been getting Fent patches for 3 yrs now. Never even thought about smoking them. When it comes to Fentanyl, less is better. I say this because I've had 2 friends die from them (and a big dose of stupidity)
My daughters dirtbag boyfriend (ex now) stole a 100mcg patch from me and did the whole thing. He ended up in the hospital, almost died, and got the attempted suicide treatment. This shit WILL kill you if you get stupid with it. I laughed at him and told him he got what he deserved for being a thief!!

[Dhedmo]

Props to all the caution from Uncle W, OL, and Computerdoc80.

mtren, don't IV fent from a patch!

And, if you don't know anything about fent, don't smoke it!

Once you've made a mistake, it's often too late for anyone to do anything about it.

Even regular patch wearers have found that, when they start smoking fentanyl, their tol can rise quickly and dramatically. For pain patients, this can mean it's impossible to find relief, and for non PM junkies it can make staying well more than just challenging.

There are some regular smokers on the phile, and hey, everyone here is (or should be) a grown up. You're gonna do what you're gonna do. But regular (or ex-regular) smokers will tell you to proceed with caution if at all.

And as much as I might sound like a broken record, using fent as directed (provided you have a tolerance for opioids) is the best way to go. One can maintain a pretty constant euphoria by stretching between patches, etc. I got essential pain relief (and euphoria 2 days out of 3 at least) for two years.

And, if you don't have a regular opioid tolerance, for God's sake, don't slap on a patch!
It is the wrong place to start.

Finally, for what it's worth, check out the status of InpectahDek, the guy who started this thread. He's a departed Opiophile.

His death did not come directly from smoking fent, but he'd switched to methadone in an effort to combat the outrageously high tolerance he'd built up smoking. (IIRC, he died of an overdose caused by a lethal combination of methadone and benzos.)

Although I wasn't registered then, I began reading Opiophile regularly around the time Dek switched to fentanyl, and he had been probably my favorite Opiophile (along with AO/SpecialGuy69, who created another thread on this subject).

It may sound crazy, but I felt like someone in my own RL had died. I still play some of his music, and it really hurts to think that someone that creative was taken out basically because he flew too close to the sun.

Be careful.


p.s. If anyone has links to any more of Dek's mixes, please VM or email me.

[PoppyLlama]

HOLY MOTHER FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

the difference between dry gel and wet gel is absolutely fucking ENORMOUS!!!!!!!!
I cannot stress enough to anyone who smokes their gel patches to DRY THE GEL OUT before smoking it! It is like 5 or 10 times stronger, normally a 50mcg patch give me about 2 good hits, but I'm not even THAT faded, if I wanna get totally fucked I need like 3/4 of one. Well I just did a tiny ass blob like maybe this big ( ) and it felt like I smoked 3/4ths of this damn patch. Absolutely incredible, this is going to add SOO MUCH more highs off each patch. I seriously only need that one hit and I am fucking good, I'm keep fucking up typing and seeing double and nodding out and shit its crazy as hell!

BTW the method I use for drying the DURAGESIC gel patches is I just take a little blob ( ) that big on a aluminum foil and then use a small personal fan on the highest level and it dries in like 15 minutes.

I LOVE FENT