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			<title>Stop the Violence: Legalize Drugs</title>
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*Stop the Violence: Legalize Drugs (http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/20/stop-the-violence-legalize-dru)* 
 
 			Damon W. Root (http://reason.com/people/damon-w-root) | November 20, 2009 
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 			<a href="http://reason.com/people/damon-w-root" target="_blank">Damon W. Root</a> | November 20, 2009<br />
 			        	  	   The Manhattan Institute’s John McWhorter is perhaps best known   for his fierce criticism of <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_3_how_hip_hop.html" target="_blank">rap   music</a> (though he does enjoy a little <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2008/07/18/power-to-the-people-and-the-be" target="_blank">   Snoop Dogg</a>) and the <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_holding_blacks.html" target="_blank">   black left</a>. Lately, however, McWhorter’s aim has been focused   on a new target: America’s destructive and futile War on Drugs.   Writing at <i>The New Republic</i> about the tragic murder of a   Bronx teenager caught in some gangland crossfire, he presses the   case for legalization: <blockquote>        The simple fact is that if there were no profit to be made in     selling drugs on the street, no one would bother. For all of     the “root causes” reasons so many young black and Latino men     turn to this trade instead of seeking legal work, if there were     no War on Drugs, they would seek other solutions to the     obstacles that face them. And whatever those were, they would     involve less murder, fewer crossfire injuries and killings of     the kind that have likely ruined Ms. Vasquez’ life at 15, fewer     men in prison for long periods, and fewer of their children     growing up fatherless and on their way to repeating their     father’s mistakes.   <br />
 </blockquote>Read the rest <a href="http://www.tnr.com/blog/john-mcwhorter/murder-the-bronx-business-usual-suggestion-obama-2014" target="_blank">   here</a>. 
			
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			<title><![CDATA[Christmas ornaments I'll be passing out this year:  Bongs.]]></title>
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			<title>Obtaining Pure Oxy?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[OK, I'm starting to care a little bit more about my personal health, and would like to reduce the damage caused to my nasal by snorting shitloads of OC.  I love snorting things, so this will not stop, I prefer snorting to shooting even.  I just want...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>OK, I'm starting to care a little bit more about my personal health, and would like to reduce the damage caused to my nasal by snorting shitloads of OC.  I love snorting things, so this will not stop, I prefer snorting to shooting even.  I just want to reduce the harm as much as possible.<br />
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I was thinking:<br />
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1) Take 10 80s or so (about 7 days worth for me if I'm maintaining)<br />
2) Remove Coating and powderize<br />
3) Put powder in small vessel (say maybe 3tbs or so)<br />
4) Add limited amount of water, similar to what you would use if you were going to shoot the powder<br />
5) Let dissolve for 30min or so, stirring occaisionally<br />
6)Use insulin syringe to draw up liquid through a chunk of cotton.<br />
7) Squirt the liquid into a new clean, low, wide vessel<br />
8)Repeat 6 &amp; 7 until all of the liquid is in the new clean vessel and the remaining crud in the old vessel is as dry as possible, eat remaining crud<br />
9) Let evaporate over night <br />
10) Then you would have pure oxy + any other binder or filler that was water soluble in the original pill make-up -- which for my purposes the only reason I wanting to do this is to remove the non-water soluble particulate matter in the OC pills that is being inhaled into my lungs for eternity.<br />
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Criticism of plan: You will lose a certain amount both in transporting the liquid repeatedly and some left in the crud after you filter.<br />
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<b>Do you see anywhere else where I would be losing oxy other than in filtering? </b>Will my plan work?</div>

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			<title>Smoking that last hit of fent</title>
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			<description>Okay alot of you guys are gonna say this is not healthy ect. but swIm loves he MEANs LOVE that last hit of fresh gel where the shit turns black and you actually get smoke swim was just wondering if anyone else likes it or what. 
Swim always smoke...</description>
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Swim always smoke fresh gel and never leaves it out to dry. I wanna try it soon though, Is it stronger smoking the dry flakes? I wanna hear what unclewiggly has to say about this one.</div>

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			<title>Tolerance Progression</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have been scripted opiates since 2005.  First Norco's at 2-3/day then Oxy IR 10-20mg/day to eliminate the APAP.   So here I am 4 years later and am up to 40-50mg Oxy/day.  Is that a typical increase/development of tolerance to double every several...]]></description>
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I realize everyone is different, just wondering how others have seen their usage increase over time.  I can still feel 20mg Oxy pretty good even after all this time.   Not anywhere near the rush/euphoria from the first week, but still an overall decent time.   Is that normal?   But I have only ever taken it orally.   Never snorted or anything else.</div>

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			<title>The Salvia Ban Wagon</title>
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*The Salvia Ban Wagon (http://reason.com/archives/2009/11/19/the-salvia-ban-wagon)* 
 
     *How does terrible drug policy get made? The mad rush to criminalize a psychedelic herb provides a textbook case.* 
 
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     <b>How does terrible drug policy get made? The mad rush to criminalize a psychedelic herb provides a textbook case.</b><br />
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             <a href="http://reason.com/people/jacob-sullum" target="_blank">Jacob Sullum</a> from the <a href="http://reason.com/issues/december-2009" target="_blank">December 2009</a> issue<br />
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         A couple of years ago, John Bulloch watched an alarming report on   an Atlanta TV station about an exotic-sounding drug called   <i>Salvia divinorum</i>. Bulloch had never heard of the plant,   a psychoactive relative of sage that the Mazatec Indians of   Oaxaca, Mexico, have used for centuries in healing and divination   rituals. But according to the news report, salvia was becoming   increasingly popular among American college students, who   sometimes called it &#8220;Sally D&#8221; or &#8220;magic mint&#8221; (since salvia, like   sage, is a member of the mint family). <br />
     The most horrifying fact of all: Salvia was perfectly legal. In   their far-reaching crackdowns on drugs that people enjoy, state   and federal legislators somehow had missed a plant that contains   the most powerful naturally occurring psychedelic known to man. <br />
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Bulloch&#8212;a Republican state senator who represents the area around   Ochlocknee, Georgia, a tiny town near the Florida border&#8212;was   astounded. &#8220;I thought, &#8216;Why hasn&#8217;t somebody already jumped on   this?&#8217;&#8197;&#8221; he told the <i>Florida Times-Union</i> in March 2007.   &#8220;I hurriedly got legislative counsel to draft the   bill&#8221;&#8212;legislation making it a misdemeanor to grow, sell, or   possess salvia. &#8220;Since then,&#8221; the <i>Times-Union</i> reported,   &#8220;Bulloch has been scouring the Internet to find information about   salvia. None of what he has learned has dissuaded him from trying   to make it illegal.&#8221; <br />
     Bulloch&#8217;s approach to salvia&#8212;ban first, ask questions   later&#8212;epitomizes how drug policy is made in America. Although his   bill has not yet passed, 15 states have banned salvia since 2005,   and many others are considering similar legislation. Their   precipitous action makes the U.S. Drug Enforcement   Administration, which has been monitoring salvia as &#8220;a drug of   concern&#8221; since 2003 but still has no definite plans to classify   it as a prohibited substance, look rational and reticent by   comparison. <br />
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The penalties for violating state salvia laws vary from modest   fines to decades in prison. Kenneth Rau, a North Dakota bottling   plant employee who has the dubious distinction of being the first   American arrested for salvia possession, bought eight ounces of   leaves on eBay for $32 in December 2007. He says he did not   realize a state ban on the plant had taken effect the previous   August&#8212;a plausible claim, especially since the plant matter that   police discovered in his home was clearly labeled &#8220;salvia.&#8221; Last   spring Rau received three years of probation for simple   possession. But he originally was charged as a dealer and could   have received a prison sentence of up to 20 years, all for a bag   of leaves that was legal in North Dakota four months before he   bought it and remains legal in most of the country. <br />
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To drug policy historians, the reasons for the rush to ban salvia   are familiar. Sensationalistic press coverage, in this case   supplemented by salvia users&#8217; documentation of their own trips on   YouTube, has attracted the attention of legislators eager to   grandstand as guardians of vulnerable and impressionable &#8220;young   people.&#8221; Few politicians can resist the allure of a drug   described as &#8220;cheaper than marijuana, stronger than LSD, as   fast-acting as crack cocaine, and legally available to minors&#8221;   (as <i>The</i> <i>Ithaca Journal</i> put it in 2004). The   endless repetition of a few anecdotes that supposedly demonstrate   salvia&#8217;s dangers&#8212;most conspicuously, the story of a Delaware   teenager&#8217;s 2006 suicide&#8212;has found a receptive audience among   politicians who automatically assume that an unfamiliar   psychoactive substance must be a menace. And since these   lawmakers bridle at the notion that anything good could possibly   come from altering your consciousness, they see no downside to   banning salvia before it becomes a problem. <br />
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The idea that salvia &#8220;could become the next marijuana&#8221; (as the   Associated Press warned last year) is mostly misbegotten. The   salvia experience is so unpredictable, so incompatible with   social interaction, and so frequently boring or unpleasant that   it&#8217;s safe to assume the herb will never be as popular as pot. But   the comparison rings true in several other respects: Both salvia   and marijuana are psychoactive plants linked in the public mind   to Mexico, both appear to be nontoxic for all practical purposes,   and both have intriguing medical potential. Salvia&#8217;s detractors,   like marijuana&#8217;s in the 1920s and &#8217;30s, claim it causes insanity   and violence. In both cases prohibition occurred at the state   level first. If salvia continues to follow the pattern set by   marijuana, it will ultimately be banned throughout the country,   despite a dearth of evidence that it poses a serious threat to   individual health or to public safety. <br />
     <b><br />
Something About Mary</b> <br />
     Salvia&#8217;s ritual use in Mexico goes back hundreds of years, but   outsiders paid little attention to it until the mid-20th century.   Starting in 1938, anthropologists and naturalists visiting Oaxaca   mentioned a visionary tea made from a plant variously called   <i>hierba Maria</i> (herb of Mary), <i>hoja de   adivinación</i> (leaf of prophecy), or <i>ska Maria   Pastora</i> (leaves of Mary the Shepherdess). They reported that   the local healers known as <i>curanderos</i> used the potion,   traditionally linked to the Virgin Mary, to diagnose illness and   locate lost objects, finding clues in what their patients/clients   said under its influence. <br />
     The self-taught American mycologist and ethnobotanist R. Gordon   Wasson, best known for his research on hallucinogenic mushrooms,   was the first visitor to describe his own experiences with ska   Maria Pastora. In a 1962 leaflet published by Harvard   University&#8217;s Botanical Museum, Wasson announced &#8220;a new Mexican   psychotropic drug from the mint family&#8221; that he and his   colleagues dubbed <i>Salvia divinorum</i> (diviner&#8217;s sage). He   said it was &#8220;a psychotropic plant that the Mazatecs consume when   mushrooms are not available,&#8221; a &#8220;less desirable substitute&#8221; for   psilocybin-containing fungi. <br />
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In a 1961 salvia ceremony, Wasson drank a foul-tasting mixture of   leaf juice and water under the guidance of a curandera. &#8220;The   effect of the leaves came sooner than would have been the case   with the mushrooms, was less sweeping, and lasted a shorter   time,&#8221; he reported. &#8220;There was not the slightest doubt about the   effect, but it did not go beyond the initial effect of the   mushrooms&#8212;dancing colors in elaborate, three-dimensional   designs.&#8221; The second time around, about a year later, Wasson was   joined by his friend Albert Hofmann, the Swiss chemist who first   synthesized LSD. They experienced similar effects. <br />
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Given Wasson&#8217;s lack of enthusiasm for salvia, it&#8217;s not surprising   that the plant remained obscure for decades, with nothing like   the fame or following attracted by LSD, psilocybin, or peyote.   That began to change in the 1990s, thanks largely to the efforts   of another amateur ethnobotanist. <br />
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Daniel Siebert first came across salvia in the late 1970s while   researching medicinal plants. Later someone gave him a cutting,   which he used to grow a plant that he added to his collection of   interesting herbs. About a year later he accidentally broke off   part of the plant and decided to try it, chewing up a wad of 26   large leaves. &#8220;It was that initial experience that really piqued   my interest,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I found the effects really intriguing,   and it was very comfortable and easy to handle&#8212;much more   manageable than most other psychedelic drugs I had tried.&#8221; Today   Siebert, who lives in Malibu, runs the Salvia <br />
Divinorum Research   and Information Center (sagewisdom.org), the most comprehensive   online repository of information about the plant. <br />
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The website, which also sells the herb, includes a link to a 1994   article Siebert published in the <i>Journal of   Ethnopharmacology</i> that helped explain why ska Maria had   disappointed so many psychonauts. Siebert&#8217;s research confirmed   that salvinorin A, first isolated a decade before, was the   plant&#8217;s main psychoactive ingredient. It turned out to be highly   potent, producing noticeable effects at a dose of half a   milligram, compared to about 10 milligrams for psilocybin and 250   milligrams for mescaline. (Contrary to some overheated press   reports about salvia, LSD, a synthetic psychedelic, is far more   powerful than any of these, effective at doses as low as 50   micrograms, or five-hundredths of a milligram.) Siebert&#8217;s   experiments with volunteers who tried different routes of   administration revealed that swallowing salvia was the worst way   to absorb salvinorin A, which is &#8220;deactivated by the   gastrointestinal system.&#8221; Two other routes were much more   successful: through the oral mucous membrane (by holding   masticated leaves or leaf juice in the mouth) and through the   lungs (by inhaling the vapor). <br />
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This information, combined with the realization that salvinorin A   is highly stable and remains in salvia leaves even when they&#8217;re   dried, set the stage for the plant&#8217;s commercialization. Soon it   was available from head shops and online vendors in the form of   liquid extracts and smokable dried leaves, often fortified with   extract. Holding the liquid in the mouth more closely resembles   the traditional method of consuming salvia, with the effects felt   in five to 10 minutes and lasting an hour or two. But the   alcohol-based extract tastes terrible and produces relatively   subtle effects. (See &#8220;Salvia and Salivation,&#8221; page 42.) The   smoked form produces faster, more intense, and shorter effects,   appearing within 30 seconds and subsiding after five to 10   minutes. It sells much better. <br />
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   According to the latest data from the federal government&#8217;s   National Survey on Drug Use and Health, 1 million Americans used   salvia in 2007, up from 750,000 in 2006, the first year the   survey asked about the drug. Those numbers make salvia currently   more popular than LSD, used by 620,000 Americans in 2007. (In   terms of lifetime use, however, acid droppers outnumber salvia   smokers by nearly 10 to 1.) Salvia, like other psychedelics, is   most popular among 18-to-25-year-olds, 2 percent of whom report   past-year use. <br />
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As is often the case with drug fads, interest in salvia has been   driven partly by the same press coverage that has encouraged   legislators to crack down on it. Salvia distributors say they see   spikes in sales after anti-salvia articles appear. &#8220;Every time   there&#8217;s a news story on it,&#8221; says John Boyd, CEO of Arena   Ethnobotanicals in Encinitas, California, &#8220;it brings it to   people&#8217;s attention.&#8221; <br />
     Still, salvia is much less popular than marijuana, used by 25   million Americans in 2007. It is also less likely to be used more   than once. Tiffin University psychologist Jonathan Appel, who   co-authored a 2007 article on the rising popularity of salvia in   the <i>International Journal of Mental Health and   Addiction</i>, says, &#8220;We&#8217;re talking about a small percentage of   people who are using it and an even smaller percentage of people   who go back and use it again.&#8221; <br />
     <b><br />
&#8216;The Worst Substance of This Earth&#8217;</b> <br />
     Siebert says the prevalence of smoking, which produces quick,   intense effects, helps explain why many users report overwhelming   experiences they are not eager to repeat. High doses are another   factor, since vendors compete based on the potency of their   fortified leaves, bragging that they are anywhere from five to   100 times as powerful as the untreated plant. &#8220;When you smoke,&#8221;   Siebert says, &#8220;the effects come on almost instantly, and it&#8217;s   disorienting. Suddenly you have this dramatic shift of   consciousness, especially if you&#8217;re taking a high dose, and it   can be frightening and uncomfortable. That starts everything off   on the wrong foot.&#8221; <br />
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Last year a commenter on <b>reason</b>&#8217;s blog, <i>Hit   &amp; Run</i>, called salvia &#8220;THE WORST substance of this   Earth,&#8221; adding, &#8220;If you want kids to stay off of drugs, give them   some Salvia and tell them this is what cannabis, hash, and LSD   are all like.&#8221; Erowid.org, a website that provides information on   a wide variety of psychoactive substances for an audience that is   more Leary than leery, is less vehement, but it notes that   salvia&#8217;s effects &#8220;are considered unpleasant by many people.&#8221;   Bryan Roth, a psychiatrist and pharmacologist at the University   of North Carolina, led the research that showed how salvinorin A   binds to the brain. &#8220;Most people will say they don&#8217;t like it,&#8221; he   says. &#8220;It&#8217;s just too intense. If it has any effect at all, I   would say it would be to diminish the tendency for drug abuse.&#8221; <br />
     Users are apt to be especially disappointed if they are expecting   a fun party drug similar to marijuana. &#8220;I smoked with a friend   last week who became the leg of a table,&#8221; says Rick Doblin,   president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic   Studies. In his 1994 paper, Siebert listed commonly reported   themes of salvia experiences, including &#8220;becoming objects,&#8221;   &#8220;visions of various two-dimensional surfaces,&#8221; &#8220;revisiting places   from the past,&#8221; &#8220;loss of the body and/or identity,&#8221; &#8220;various   sensations of motion,&#8221; &#8220;uncontrollable hysterical laughter,&#8221; and   &#8220;overlapping realities.&#8221; Such experiences might be interesting,   rewarding, or revealing, but they are not exactly conducive to   social activities. <br />
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&#8220;Salvia is not a recreational substance,&#8221; says Jeffrey Bottoms,   who works at Mazatec Garden, a salvia importer and distributor in   Houston. &#8220;It isn&#8217;t pleasant. It doesn&#8217;t make you feel good. It&#8217;s   not a mood elevator. If you&#8217;re depressed, it&#8217;s not going to make   you feel a little better. In fact, it will make you feel a lot   worse.&#8221; Ready to try it yet? <br />
     First you may want to check out the videos. Search for &#8220;salvia&#8221;   on YouTube, and you&#8217;ll find hundreds of videos of teenagers and   young adults staring into space, laughing hysterically, falling   over, crawling on the floor, and speaking in tongues while their   friends alternately giggle and reassure them that it will all be   over soon. These videos, widely credited with helping to   popularize salvia, do not make it seem very appealing. Nor are   they all that alarming, except perhaps as a sign that a   disturbingly large number of people want the world to see their   displays of drug-induced idiocy. In some of the videos, the   salvia smoker freaks out a little, but these &#8220;bad trips&#8221;   (breathlessly advertised as such) look pretty mild, consisting   mainly of restlessness and a repeatedly expressed wish for an end   to the ride, which arrives soon enough. <br />
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Yet the YouTube videos come up frequently in newspaper stories   about salvia and in the comments of politicians who want to ban   it. In January, explaining his motive for sponsoring a   prohibition bill, Maryland state Sen. Richard Colburn   (R-Dorchester County) told the <i>Baltimore Examiner</i> that   the YouTube footage is &#8220;pretty disturbing,&#8221; adding, &#8220;Just imagine   if that was your child.&#8221; Colburn&#8217;s YouTube-inspired bill would   classify salvia as a Schedule I substance, making people who sell   it subject to prison terms of up to 20 years. According to the   <i>Santa Fe Reporter</i>, New Mexico state Rep. Keith Gardner   (R-Chavez), sponsor of a similar bill, &#8220;says all the evidence he   needs of the drug&#8217;s dangerous potential is available on YouTube.&#8221;   He told the paper the videos are &#8220;dramatic as hell&#8212;you gotta   watch &#8217;em. At first I thought, &#8216;This is just somebody   pretending.&#8217; It&#8217;s amazing how powerful this drug is.&#8221; <br />
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Texas state Rep. Armando Martinez (D- Weslaco) says he introduced   a bill that would ban salvia sales to minors based on &#8220;what we&#8217;ve   seen on YouTube and what a friend of mine&#8217;s nephew had mentioned   about all this.&#8221; He settled on age restrictions, as opposed to a   complete ban, because it seemed easier to accomplish. &#8220;Any way we   could stop this from getting into the hands of our children or   adolescents,&#8221; he says, &#8220;I think that it&#8217;s something we need to   do. If that means a complete ban, then I would support a complete   ban.&#8221; <br />
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Texas state Rep. Charles &#8220;Doc&#8221; Anderson (R-Waco) already does,   arguing that age restrictions could &#8220;do more harm than good,&#8221;   making salvia use a mark of adulthood. <i>The New York   Times</i> reports that Anderson has tried to stir up support for   a ban among his colleagues by citing a YouTube video that shows a   salvia smoker behind the wheel of a car. The video in question,   &#8220;Driving on Salvia,&#8221; is part of a humorous series called &#8220;Being   Productive on Salvia&#8221; featuring a Los Angeles production   assistant named Erik Hoffstad. Other episodes include &#8220;Gardening   on Salvia&#8221; and &#8220;Writing a Letter to Congress on Salvia.&#8221; The   running gag is that Hoffstad can&#8217;t manage to do much of anything   after taking a salvia hit. In &#8220;Driving on Salvia,&#8221; he never   actually tries to start the car, and the scariest moment occurs   when a cat unexpectedly jumps on the hood. <br />
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&#8216;Beyond Anything We Have Seen Before&#8217;</b> <br />
     Martinez and Anderson both raise the specter of salvia-impaired   driving, but neither can cite any real-life examples of it, in   Texas or elsewhere. That&#8217;s not surprising, since (as Hoffstad&#8217;s   video illustrates) someone tripping on salvia, unlike someone who   has had a few drinks, is in no condition to get into a car, start   it up, and drive away. It seems the only way this hazard could   materialize is if someone brought a bongful of salvia with him on   a drive and lit it up while stopped at a light. Although the   driving scenario seems implausible, salvia prohibitionists are   right that there is a potential for accidents under the drug&#8217;s   influence, which is why vendors warn their customers to put away   hazardous objects and enlist a &#8220;sober sitter&#8221; to keep an eye on   them during their trip. <br />
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When I press Martinez and Anderson for examples of actual harm   caused by salvia use, as opposed to hypothetical risks, the best   they can do is cite bad but brief trips. Anderson also claims &#8220;we   are seeing the flashback scenario.&#8221; But as Siebert notes, &#8220;Any   kind of intense or traumatic experience,&#8221; including war, car   crashes, and near-death experiences, &#8220;can produce   flashbacks.&#8230;Intense psychedelic experiences can be extremely   frightening, and it may be that there&#8217;s some internal   psychological mechanism of revisiting that kind of material   later. But it doesn&#8217;t appear that there&#8217;s any organic, direct   reason for this. It&#8217;s not like the drug hangs around the system   and suddenly pops up in your brain one day. It seems to be more   like the way the brain deals with very intense or confusing   experiences.&#8221; <br />
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   Last fall Anderson told the <i>Waco Tribune-Herald</i> that   &#8220;with a single use [salvia smokers] can cause some serious,   serious damage to their brain.&#8221; Roth, the salvia researcher, says   &#8220;there&#8217;s no evidence for that statement.&#8221; In fact, says Siebert,   animal studies of salvia give &#8220;no indication of it having any   significant toxic effects, even at doses that are hundreds of   times more than what humans would ordinarily use.&#8221; Even salvia&#8217;s   detractors concede that addiction does not seem to be an issue,   since few people who try the drug want to use it on a regular   basis. Despite a dramatic increase in use during the last few   years, emergency rooms are not seeing a flood, or even a trickle,   of salvia users, probably because a hospital trip usually takes   longer than a salvia trip. <br />
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The lack of alarming statistics helps explain why the Drug   Enforcement Administration (DEA), which has the power to ban   psychoactive substances without new legislation, is still waiting   and watching six years after declaring salvia a &#8220;drug of   concern.&#8221; DEA spokesman Rusty Payne says, &#8220;I don&#8217;t think we have   enough information yet.&#8221; And there&#8217;s no telling when they will.   &#8220;It&#8217;s going to take a while,&#8221; Payne says. &#8220;If we decide to   schedule [salvia], we&#8217;ll publish a notice [in the <i>Federal   Register</i>]. If we don&#8217;t, we won&#8217;t.&#8221; Although Payne says the   delay should not be read as a judgment on salvia&#8217;s dangers, the   DEA can act much more quickly when it wants to, as when it banned   MDMA on an emergency basis in 1985. &#8220;When they say they&#8217;ve been   looking at it for years,&#8221; says Rick Doblin, &#8220;it means it&#8217;s not   much of a problem.&#8221; <br />
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Nor is salvia a high priority at the Food and Drug Administration   (FDA). Officially, the FDA says herbal products like salvia are   &#8220;unapproved new drugs&#8221; and &#8220;misbranded drugs&#8221; if they are   &#8220;marketed with claims implying that these products mimic the   effects of controlled substances.&#8221; Products are deemed to be   &#8220;illegal street drug alternatives&#8221; when they are &#8220;intended to be   used for recreational purposes to effect psychological states   (e.g., to get high, to promote euphoria, or to induce   hallucinations).&#8221; <br />
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&#8220;I am aware of that law,&#8221; says Arena Ethnobotanicals CEO John   Boyd, &#8220;and that&#8217;s why if you check our website there are no   references to anything like that.&#8221; Many salvia vendors do tout   the psychoactive effects of their products, promising   &#8220;psychedelic,&#8221; &#8220;visionary,&#8221; &#8220;enlightening,&#8221; and &#8220;enjoyable&#8221;   experiences. Yet except for two warning letters it sent in 2002,   the FDA does not seem to have taken any enforcement actions   against companies that sell salvia. While FDA spokesman   Christopher Kelly says &#8220;we do not discuss potential, pending, or   ongoing actions,&#8221; none of the distributors I interviewed was   aware of any recent warnings or seizures. <br />
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As for Congress, Rep. Joe Baca (D-Calif.) introduced a bill to   ban salvia in 2002, declaring, &#8220;We know very little about the   drug, but what we do know is frightening. This drug&#8217;s power is   beyond anything we have seen before.&#8221; But the bill died in   committee, and Baca never reintroduced it. I contacted his office   a couple of times to find out why but did not get an answer. 
			
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			<description><![CDATA[We got pulled over because i guess my dealers house was being watched, so I swallowed a gram of coke.. it was in a baggie, and everyones telling me I'll be ok. But I am very anxious and worried, I know cocaine has a very low oral bio. 33% according...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>We got pulled over because i guess my dealers house was being watched, so I swallowed a gram of coke.. it was in a baggie, and everyones telling me I'll be ok. But I am very anxious and worried, I know cocaine has a very low oral bio. 33% according to wikipedia, so 33% of 1.3 grams.. I know thats around 300mg. It was pretty potent stuff but I know it wasn't pure. Its been about 2 hours since ingestion and my heart is racing but otherwise I'm OK. I took 3 1mg ativan to calm myself and slow my heart rate alittle... Do you guys think I should go the hospital?</div>

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			<description><![CDATA[SWIM was looking at his tooters he uses to smoke with today, and decided to scrape them.  SWIM was expecting some kind of goo, but instead it was all brown powder that came out.  This is weird because all that's being smoked is tar, no powder...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>SWIM was looking at his tooters he uses to smoke with today, and decided to scrape them.  SWIM was expecting some kind of goo, but instead it was all brown powder that came out.  This is weird because all that's being smoked is tar, no powder whatsoever.  It tastes and smells like H, but SWIM wants to know, do you think it's okay to snort?  Nothing else has been smoked out of these, and there's no doubt it's from the smoke.  You can never be too careful.</div>

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			<description>SWIM missed a bit he thinks and now there is a red like rash that is about the size of the circle that is formed between your index and thumb when you make an OK sign with your hands, he says it hurts around the area where the shot went in, but not...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>SWIM missed a bit he thinks and now there is a red like rash that is about the size of the circle that is formed between your index and thumb when you make an OK sign with your hands, he says it hurts around the area where the shot went in, but not every where the rash is. he is generally quite new to shooting and doesn't know whether to be worried or not. He thanks you very much for any light you can shine on this situation :)</div>

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			<description>Slightly long backstory: 
I have fibromylagia, so my current treatment plan includes narcotics.  
However, I cannot take anti inflammatories in any form due to a stomach surgery a few years back. 
I also have developed a serious Tylenol intolerance...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Slightly long backstory:<br />
I have fibromylagia, so my current treatment plan includes narcotics. <br />
However, I cannot take anti inflammatories in any form due to a stomach surgery a few years back.<br />
I also have developed a serious Tylenol intolerance (as in, puking every time I take my vicoden) not controlled by anti nausea medicine at all.<br />
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I am on a fairly low dose (10mg / day) and have no current insurance, so paying out of pocket until my local hospitals charity care kicks in (soon, please!!).<br />
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Other meds I am on are Lexapro, so no SSRI's for fear of seratonin syndrome, Lyrica when I can get free samples, and .5mg Xanax as needed.<br />
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I have tried the following to no avail:<br />
Tramadol, Trazadone, Cymbalta, Lyrica, Amitriptyline, Butalalbitol, Vicoden, Percocet, Fentanyl patches and surely more I'm forgetting.<br />
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Narcotics work REALLY well for me, in regards to pain and keeping a reasonably clear head. BUT- my doc and I can't seem to find a med that doesn't have APAP/Tylenol or and Anti inflammatory, and has a low enough dose for me. I've been trying to stick to the vicoden 5/500 x2 because it can be called in, etc But I had to move to percocet this month because it's available in 5/325 formulations. <br />
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I'd like thoughts on what to ask my doc for. We're both trying to do research, and I have a pain contract so it isn't in appropriate for me to ask my doctor to let me try a different drug.<br />
Appreciate any thoughts!</div>

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			<title>Mary Beth Buchanan Finally Quits; Regrets Not Having Been Even Douchier</title>
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*Mary Beth Buchanan Finally Quits; Regrets Not Having Been Even Douchier (http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/19/mary-beth-buchanan-finally-qui)* 
 
 			Radley Balko (http://reason.com/people/radley-balko) | November 19, 2009 
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 			<a href="http://reason.com/people/radley-balko" target="_blank">Radley Balko</a> | November 19, 2009<br />
 			        	  	   <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2008/12/05/mary-gets-quite-contrary" target="_blank">When   last we checked in</a> on Mary Beth Buchanan, President Bush's   <a href="http://reason.com/blog/show/132313.html" target="_blank">porn-hatin'</a>,   <a href="http://reason.com/archives/2004/05/01/tommy-chongs-bongs" target="_blank">Tommy   Chong-persecutin'</a>, <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2008/05/21/mary-mary-why-you-buggin" target="_blank">&quot;Whizzinator&quot;   confiscatin'</a>, <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2008/04/11/weirdness-in-wecht-trial-conti" target="_blank">   jury-intimidatin'</a> U.S. Attorney for the Western District of   Pennsylvania, she was clinging to her job with white knuckles,   damn-near daring incoming President Barack Obama to fire her. <br />
    Nearly a year later, Buchanan has <a href="http://kdka.com/local/Mary.Beth.Buchanan.2.1316019.html" target="_blank">finally   served her last day on the job</a>. Her one regret? Not that she   spent spent several hundred thousand dollars <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-kreig/why-did-feds-persecute-ce_b_310487.html" target="_blank">   prosecuting medical examiner Cyril Wecht</a> for what in the end   amounted to charges of spending <a href="http://www.dailyamerican.com/articles/2008/04/17/state_news/s_news794.txt" target="_blank">   about four dollars</a> of county money on personal faxes. <b>Not   that she <a href="http://reason.com/archives/2007/08/31/sex-drugs-a-federal-prosecutio" target="_blank">   put perjurred testimony into evidence</a> and sent Dr. Bernard   Rottschaefer to prison for the non-crime of treating people in   pain. </b>Not that she wasted taxpayer money by bringing <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/28/us/28obscene.html&amp;OQ=_rQ3D3Q26refQ3DusQ26orefQ3DsloginQ26orefQ3Dslogin&amp;OP=18d0885aQ2FQ2FQ3CdXQ2FbnaA-nnQ23kQ2FkCCgQ2FC2Q2FkRQ2FrAQ2FkRnXAadQ60dpQ20Q236Q7D" target="_blank">   tedious</a> federal <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2009/03/18/extreme-associates-obscenity-c" target="_blank">   obscenity cases</a> in cases involving all consenting adults. <br />
    No, Buchanan <a href="http://kdka.com/local/Mary.Beth.Buchanan.2.1316019.html" target="_blank">told a   local TV station</a> this week her one regret is offering a plea   bargain to celebrity stoner Tommy Chong, letting him off with a   mere nine months in prison for selling glass pipes over the   Internet. <br />
    <a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/11/17/113916/62" target="_blank">Chong's   response</a>: <blockquote>        &quot;I'm honored to be Mary Beth's only regret. Now does she regret     going after me? Or does she regret that I never got enough     time? I tend to think she wishes she'd never heard my name. I     have become her legacy. Mary Beth Loose Cannon is now looking     for a job. She blew her last job busting me. Karma is so sweet!     She's looking for a work while Cheech and I start our second     multi-million dollar tour thanks to the publicity she created     for us! Thank you Mary Beth - may you find peace and happiness     in your search for your soul.&quot;   <br />
 </blockquote>Two Buchanan critics in the Pittsburgh area tell me the rumor   there is that she's setting her sights on the congressional seat   currently held by first-term Rep. Jason Altmire (D-Penn.). 
			
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*NIAAA Official Says Alcoholism 'Isn't Usually' a 'Chronic, Relapsing Disease' (http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/19/niaaa-official-says-alcoholism)* 
 
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 			<a href="http://reason.com/people/jacob-sullum" target="_blank">Jacob Sullum</a> | November 19, 2009<br />
The <i>Los Angeles   Times</i> <a href="http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-alcohol16-2009nov16,0,3127580,full.story" target="_blank">   notices</a> that people can overcome drinking problems without   abstaining from alcohol for the rest of their lives. More   important, the <i>Times</i> quotes Mark Willenbring, director   of treatment and recovery research at the National Institute on   Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, who admits that the   one-size-fits-all, abstinence-only approach preached by   Alcoholics Anonymous is inconsisent with the evidence on drinking   patterns (emphasis added):  <blockquote>        We're on the cusp of some major advances in how we     conceptualize alcoholism. The focus now is on the large group     of people who are not yet dependent. But they are at risk for     developing dependence....[Alcoholism] can be a chronic,     relapsing disease. But <i>it isn't usually that</i>.   <br />
 </blockquote>Sticklers may question whether a pattern of behavior—in this   case, excessive drinking—can ever be accurately described as a   disease. But for the treatment establishment, long dominated by   A.A.-style thinking, these concessions count as substantial   progress. The <i>Times</i> attributes the shift to the   findings of the <a href="http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh29-2/toc29-2.htm" target="_blank">National   Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions</a>, which   has been checking in on a representative sample of   43,000 Americans since 2001. According to the survey, &quot;About   30% of Americans had experienced a disorder...but about 70% of   those quit drinking or cut back to safe consumption patterns   without treatment after four years or less. Only 1% of those   surveyed fit the stereotypical image of someone with severe,   recurring alcohol addiction who has hit the skids.&quot; <br />
    The <i>Times</i> understates the significance of these numbers,   saying &quot;top addiction experts&quot; now believe that &quot;many   drinkers can evaluate their habits and...change those habits if   necessary&quot; and that &quot;even some people who have what are now   termed alcohol-use disorders...can cut back on consumption before   it disrupts education, ruins careers and damages health.&quot; What   the research actually indicates is that <i>the vast   majority</i> of problem drinkers &quot;get better&quot; without treatment.   And among those once classified as &quot;alcohol   dependent,&quot; moderation is about <a href="http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh29-2/131-142.htm" target="_blank">three   times as common</a> as abstinence. The scenario that   traditionally has been presented as typical—the alcohol abuser   who can get his life back on track only by swearing off booze   forever—is in fact unusual even among problem drinkers. <br />
    The psychologist Stanton Peele, an addiction expert who has long   questioned the abstinence-only approach to alcohol problems,   <a href="http://reason.com/archives/2000/11/01/after-the-crash" target="_blank">highlighted</a>   the evidence supporting a moderation alternative in the November   2000 issue of <i>Reason</i>. 
			
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			<title>Lucky Day: Found Four ABG 100mg</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, SWIM and his friend found four ABG 100mg Morphine Sulfate tabs. SWIM was really fucking excited because he's broke and he's never found any drugs before. I won't go into details on how SWIM found them, but it was a very lucky find.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Yesterday, SWIM and his friend found four ABG 100mg Morphine Sulfate tabs. SWIM was really fucking excited because he's broke and he's never found any drugs before. I won't go into details on how SWIM found them, but it was a <i>very</i> lucky find. <br />
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SWIM and his friend waited until this morning to try and IV them so that they wouldn't waste 100mg of MS due to the suboxone in their systems. They used dieselbaby's oxy prep method as SWIM does not like to heat any sort of pill. SWIM searched through the forums for a while looking for a way to prep, specifically, ABGS and couldn't find anything. He looked through the archives for a while and finally found a few posts saying that using cold water was the way to go. <br />
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What they did:<br />
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Step One: Removed the coating and crushed the pill as fine as possible.<br />
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Step Two: Added <i>very </i>cold water, stirred the mix around, and added the cotton. The water didn't make it gel up too bad, though, it did gel some and was difficult to get through the cotton. It was, however, manageable.<br />
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Step Three: They filtered several times and finally banged it up. Killer rush - SWIM hasn't felt that in a long time. :cloud9:<br />
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So, just wanted to let you guys know that SWIM had luck banging these. I love the morphine rush - it's so intense in comparison to the oxy that I'm used to doing lately - pins and needles, extreme warmth spreading out rapidly from my chest, pulsing behind my ears, very itchy skin, etc etc. Does anyone know why  the morphine rush is like that?  I mean, heroin is so much more gentle, and my opinion, a more well rounded buzz.<br />
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Well, happy nodding folks. Just wanted to let everyone know that these ABGs are quite possible to iv.</div>

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*L.A. Medical Pot Scene: Still the "Wild, Wild West" at Least 'Til Next Week (http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/18/la-medical-pot-scene-still-the)* 
 
 			Brian Doherty (http://reason.com/people/brian-doherty) | November 18, 2009 
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				<b><a href="http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/18/la-medical-pot-scene-still-the" target="_blank">L.A. Medical Pot Scene: Still the &quot;Wild, Wild West&quot; at Least 'Til Next Week</a></b><br />
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 			<a href="http://reason.com/people/brian-doherty" target="_blank">Brian Doherty</a> | November 18, 2009<br />
 			        	  	   Attended an L.A. City Council meeting today in which it was   rumored they would actually vote on a <a href="http://cityclerk.lacity.org/lacityclerkconnect/index.cfm?fa=ccfi.viewrecord&amp;cfnumber=08-0923" target="_blank">   proposed ordinance</a> to finalize a set regulatory structure for   a situation that both enemies of medical pot and even many of its   friends consider an out-of-control free-for-all of allegedly   800-1,000 medi-pot emporiums in the city. (The phrase &quot;wild west&quot;   to apply to L.A. and its interestingly, and accidentally,   free-wheeling regulatory approach, so far, to medical   dispensaries becomes a tired cliche quickly when you listen to   enough people complain about it.) <br />
    The whole story of L.A. and medical pot is long and   complicated--and will be told at appropriate length in an   upcoming <i>Reason</i> magazine feature--and for now it is   continuing. <br />
    Today, after many hours of public comment and councilperson   jousting with William Carter from the City Attorney's office--who   says, although the councilpeople don't wanna hear it, that any   sort of <i>sale</i> of pot in a medical dispensary is   inherently illegal--the Council decided to put off a vote on the   currently proposed ordinance. <br />
    They punted until at least early next week while they hash over   various proposed amendments and try to get a consensus. Issues   brought up by various councilpeople about ways they want to think   about adjusting the ordinance include: figuring out ways to   squeeze more money out of the dispensaries; how or whether to   grandfather in the 186 dispensaries that already registered under   a previous regulatory regime; demands regarding how much cash the   dispensaries can have on hand; how accessible patient records   will be to cops; and whether they will need to be 500 feet away   from any other medical or pharmaceutical location. <br />
    It seems clear to me that the council intends to ignore the   advice of their attorney and authorize sales in some respect,   though not <i>for profit</i> sales. They also seem certain to   cap the total number of legal dispensaries, though whether it   will be approximately 70 (a number many of them liked, from a   city planner) or as many as 400 (argued for by some medical pot   activists) remains to be seen. Developing, as they say. <br />
    For some background on L.A. and its contentious relationship with   medical pot, see Jacob Sullum <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/17/la-city-council-members-say-co" target="_blank">   from yesterday</a> on the council's willingness to defy their   city attorney, and on their D.A.'s concomitant willingness to   defy them. See also me from my California news and politics blog   &quot;City of Angles&quot; <a href="http://kcet.org/local/blogs/city_of_angles/2009/10/la-medical-marijuana-scene-in-tumult.html" target="_blank">   here</a> (focused on the current legal wranglings) and <a href="http://kcet.org/local/blogs/city_of_angles/2009/06/la-city-council-slams-medical-pot-dispensaries.html" target="_blank">   here</a> (explaining how a past attempt at a pot shop   &quot;moratorium&quot; in fact more than tripled the number in operation in   L.A.). 
			
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			<title><![CDATA[The 'dangers' of speedballs: myth or reality?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[This is a short essay I put together on the supposed myth that the mixture of Cocaine and Heroin known as a 'speedball' to many, is a deadly combination of drugs, and seeing if this rumour has any basis in either logic or reality: 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This is a short essay I put together on the supposed myth that the mixture of Cocaine and Heroin known as a 'speedball' to many, is a deadly combination of drugs, and seeing if this rumour has any basis in either logic or reality:<br />
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‘Speedballing’, as we all know, is the mixing of Cocaine and Heroin, which is then subsequently taken together (either via injection, snorting or even smoking, through smoking crack and then 'Chasing the Dragon', or vice-versa). There is a prodigious fear of this combo, both in the straight community and the drug taking community. Heroin is seen as dangerous in itself, but the combination of Heroin and Cocaine seems to be considered a volatile mixture, although no one can explain why. <br />
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Some articles explain that Cocaine can mask the symptoms of a Heroin overdose, allowing it to set in later. If this is true then what is deadly about the combination? Surely if one has OD'd on Heroin, one has OD'd, and whatever is delaying it is simply preventing that person from falling unconscious for five minutes or so. What exactly is bad about that? It doesn't enhance the overdose (as some believe), and if anything, gives a person a little more time to breath or remain conscious, and thus get help when they <b>do </b>fall over and stop breathing. At the very least it increases the chances of them surviving by supposedly prolonging consciousness throughout the first, initial rush of Heroin throughout the body (and therefore the strongest). If a delayed overdose effect is going to occur, then surely it is the Heroin, and not the Cocaine mixed in with it, that is going to cause an overdose. <br />
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What damages this rumour most, however, is the fact that Cocaine is merely a stimulant, not an opiate blocker. Whilst something like Naltrexone can prevent an overdose, it does so not because it is a stimulant, but because it blocks the opiate receptors in the brain, rendering the Heroin unable to release the endorphins of the brain and consequently depress the CNS system enough to stop a person breathing. However, successive doses of Naltrexone are required to stop the opiate binding with the receptors in the brain, until the opiate drug has broken down enough in the blood to render it harmless (hence where the idea of Cocaine delaying an overdose of Heroin may come from, since after a dose of Naltrexone wears out, the Morphine in the system will once again bind to the receptors, and if high enough will cause loss of consciousness and cessation of breathing once more). <br />
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Cocaine, on the other hand, is just a stimulant. One concludes through false logic that a stimulant can keep a depressant's effects at bay by 'stimulating' the individual involved, but all this means is that the heart is stimulated to beat faster. In the brain, where the actually messages for breathing are being relayed, all the Cocaine is able to do is release dopamine from the brain's dopamine receptors. The Morphine molecules will still stay very much binded to the opiate receptors of the brain, and if numerous enough, will inevitably cause the individual to stop breathing through depression of the Central Nervous System. If this wasn't compelling enough evidence that Cocaine is useless at preventing a Heroin overdose, there have been a slew of cases where, when an individual suffered a Heroin OD, his friends would inject him with several doses of Cocaine, to try and 'stimulate' his body into consciousness. Needless to say, this was unsuccessful, and the person died anyway (this once happened to a famous celebrity). <br />
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Another rumour that persists about the 'speedball', is that taking a stimulant and a depressant at the same time somehow upsets the balance of chemicals in the body, as if there is a delicate balance in our bloodstream that must either go up, or down; introducing both at the same time might 'confuse' our bodies somehow. Of course, there is no evidence to suggest that stimulants and depressants mixed together act in volatile or dangerous way when introduced to our bloodstreams, and there certainly is no 'balance' of stimulants and depressants in our bloodstreams that need to be maintained. On the contrary, mixing a depressant and a depressant can have devastating effects. One old piece of junkie lore was that combining alcohol and Heroin was deadly. Unfortunately, this rumour died out after the 40's, but rather than being a rumour, it is very much a fact. Junkies and users alike need to start repeating this 'rumour' to each other again, because lives are at stake, and lack of information can kill as easily as false information can. <br />
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Alcohol is a CNS (Central Nervous System) depressant; when mixed with another depressant, Heroin, for example (which, like alcohol, affects the part of our brains that regulate breathing), the results can be deadly. The individual will lose consciousness, stop breathing, and rapidly suffocate. An individual can lose consciousness and stop breathing for up to an hour if this happens: it takes approximately 4 minutes for the brain to die from lack of oxygen. Thus, time is of the essence in these cases, and medical attention is required immediately. One man is said to have died after drinking alcohol and then smoking Heroin, so this is certainly not an issue to be restricted to those who use the needle only. The same warning for those who mix depressants is easily noticeable in (but still rarely connected up with) cases where alcohol and depressants such as benzodiazepines and barbiturates are involved. A prime example of legal drugs causing factually documented, scientifically proven, and above all, logical, harm to victims; not fairytales invented to make combining two of the supposedly 'hardest' and 'dangerous' drugs (i.e. Heroin and Cocaine), look even worse than taking the two alone. A sort of greater-than-the-sum-of-its-parts tale that turns pretty pathetic piles of powder from ground-up flowers into the most evil, diabolical substances man has ever know, made by the Devil himself to snare mankind, the same way he ensnared Adam &amp; Eve, in order to make up for his failure in tempting Jesus, the substances men make millions off and the substances men die for, kill for and go to jail for. <br />
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The main fact is that in a mixture of Cocaine and Heroin, the Cocaine is the only substance likely to do damage, by stimulating the heart and causing it to beat rapidly/erratically. This is why, although Heroin users can persist for decades with their abuse, and never show any signs of ill health caused by that substance (in itself), Cocaine stimulates, and therefore wears out, the heart. As a consequence, Cocaine/Crack Cocaine users can find themselves suffering from heart probelms later on in life, after several years of sustained abuse. Overdoses on 'speedballs' can happen, of course (I'm not saying they can't), but if an OD does occur, it will not be the 'speedball' mixture that does it; it will be a concentration of Heroin that is either to pure or too high that does it.<br />
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Of course, the best way to dispel a rumour about a drug is to try it yourself - hence all the DARE and 'Just Say No' kids had revelations, but from then on didn't trust anything that anyone had to say, and ended up being arrested, OD'ing or dying, only to be held up as pictures on 'told-you-so' posters by the idiots that put them in that position in the first place by lying to them, instead of just being straight, to the point and truthful, which would have prevented this 'lost generation' drugs crap in the first place! I have tried 'speedballs' on several occasions over several days. I enjoyed them, but didn't become addicted to them, which is probably the greatest danger those two drugs combined will ever pose to anyone. They're too expensive, and often too hard to get hold of at the same time to really become a habit, unless you're rich and have really good connections - even then, most people chose a single drug, and stick to it. I enjoy 'speedballs' at special occasions, if I can get hold of them, and I think they're fantastic. Has anyone else experienced 'speedballs' in any form (smoked, snorted, plugged or shot?), and would like to share their experiences, would anyone like to comment on the article, what they liked or disliked, what they agreed or didn't agree with, what they found wrong, missing or incorrect about the information provided (please provide links to proof, or post proof in their posts if this is the case), and does anyone have any further questions about information in the article I've written?<br />
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Thanks for reading/contributing.</div>

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			<title>Morphine cancer fear</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[*From the Sun newspaper (UK), November 19* 
  
*"Cancer pain relief drug morphine could help the disease spread, research suggested yesterday.Studies were launched after medics noticed cancer patients on other painkillers often lived longer.* 
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<b><i><font size="3">&quot;Cancer pain relief drug morphine could help the disease spread, research suggested yesterday.</font></i><i><font size="3">Studies were launched after medics noticed cancer patients on other painkillers often lived longer.</font></i></b><br />
<b><i><font size="3">    Boffins found the opiate can boost cancer cell proliferation and inhibit the body's immune response. </font></i></b><i><font size="3"><b>Tests at Chicago University on mice with lung cancer found tumour growth was cut by 90 per cent for those not given morphine. Docs are seeking alternative painkillers.&quot;</b></font></i><br />
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<font size="3"><b>Oh dear. :confused:</b></font><br />
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			<title>Injecting Yourself With Your Own Nasty-ass Coagulated Blood</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:01:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[All right... If you are an IV user, sooner or later you will find yourself with a needle that has a barrel full of your DOC, as well as a good bit of blood. Whether it is because you only did part of the shot, slipped out of the vein, couldn't find...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>All right... If you are an IV user, sooner or later you will find yourself with a needle that has a barrel full of your DOC, as well as a good bit of blood. Whether it is because you only did part of the shot, slipped out of the vein, couldn't find the vein and kept poking around, well.... you get the idea.<br />
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As long as you go right back in, stick, and inject while everything is fresh, I don't think there is a problem. I know I have done this many times in the past.<br />
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But where do you draw the line? How long is too long for that little bacterial culture to sit there and fester before it becomes hazardous? What happens if you throw caution to the wind?<br />
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A few years back this happened to me I think. I thought it was just a mild overdose at the time. I had been blasting coke and then used a shot of dope to come down. The shot also had a bit of coke solution in it cuz I cooked it in the same spoon as the coke and there was 1/4 of a (large) shot of coke and the regular, but fair sized dope solution.<br />
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I blasted off and passed out and woke up a couple hours later sicker than a mo'fo'- I was barfing and could hardly stand and stuff like that. I had thought at the time that I just did too close to my normal shot of dope (instead of making it smaller since my system was overloaded with coke) and the coke potentiated an overdose.<br />
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But later as I though about it I realized that just before that I had injected a partial shot left over in the barrel from an earlier shot of coke that proved to be a little too big. This partial was full of blood and had been sitting there for a couple hours. Looked nasty, but the coke jones got the better of me and instead of squirting it out and <i>at least</i> re filtering it, I just slammed it down.<br />
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OD, or Blood Poisoning?  Fuck.... I dunno.<br />
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It has been a long time, but I can remember being sick as <i>HELL</i>!</div>

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			<title>like documentaries?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:52:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[there's a whole shitload of good fuckin docos at this site i found, http://topdocumentaryfilms.com (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/) 
a great way to spend the wee small hours if you can't get to sleep, there's hundreds of docos about just about...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>there's a whole shitload of good fuckin docos at this site i found, <a href="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/" target="_blank">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com</a><br />
a great way to spend the wee small hours if you can't get to sleep, there's hundreds of docos about just about anyhting and you can stream them instantly for free! i'm pretty hooked.<br />
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I think you'll like it!</div>

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			<title>Somebody...help identify</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:22:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Please forgive me if i m posting in the wrong place, but this is of major importance. I just came off 'done maint from 100 to 3mgs in like i dunno 9 or 10 days. So I am I have been hangin round my clinic and a buddy of mine n me are in same...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Please forgive me if i m posting in the wrong place, but this is of major importance. I just came off 'done maint from 100 to 3mgs in like i dunno 9 or 10 days. So I am I have been hangin round my clinic and a buddy of mine n me are in same boat...Kinda I am trying to leave it all behind me and just get through this horrible w/d by taking a kpin, bar, football, valium or whatever  here or there. He is after said benzos as well but also slamming H. So yesterday he tells me that <i><b>his</b></i> friend got dropped off meth maint from 120mgs to O. Nada. So my buddy's friend went to the hospital and they said you are gonna be fine. They prescribed him 3 valium a day and 3 ___________ a day. I cant remember the name of the drug for the life of me, but they were big orange <b>capsules</b>. 300 mgs. He said they would most def help me through my struggle as he went from 120 to nothing, could hardly move he was in such bad shape, then took a 10mg valium and a 300mg ____________ and felt NO withdrawl at all. He said he felt fine and said he would sell me a few if I need some help. Anyway he said they are new, he might even be one of the first people to be prescribed them...? I dunno bout that shit sounds like some research study BS, but this dude was in day 4 without having his daily 120mg dose and he is smilin and laughin and like he was never on 'done let alone going thru w/d. Sorry to make this longer than it has to be, but does anyone know what those orange 300mg capsules were that completely stop the opioid w/d? Cause from what a few people sey they are a miracle drug. Stupid me saw the actual bottle and cant remember the Rx or generic name.... Any help is appreciated but as much info as possible is REALLY appreciated. Much love 2 all.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Have You Ever OD'd?]]></title>
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			<description>How many people here have ever overdosed? 
 
I have.....twice...</description>
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I have.....twice...</div>

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