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odd
07-05-2007, 10:31 PM
So I just hit a artery. I have never done it before, but I know that is what I hit. I did not feel anything when I hit and I registered just fine so I thought. Anyhow I pushed it down and I got a sharp burning/electric feeling in my hand when I pushed down. I did another few mg (about 20) before I realized that it hurts way to fucking much with just getting it in there.

Now my issue is this, my hand is like 3x times the size, I don't feel any pain just numbness from my hand being way too swollen. What can I do? I have heating pads and I ran my hand though hot water for like 5 mins. What should I do? what should I look out for? how do I keep my hand from swelling?

Right now it's hella' swollen and it's hot, but no pain. How long will this last? I an kind of worried because i have never hit a artery. befor and i need to know what to do. Thanks all.

soulman
07-05-2007, 10:41 PM
I've done this a few times myself, it will go away in a day or two, if it doesn't go away in a few days you have to bite the bullet and go to the ER and be honest about it. Nothing is worth losing a hand or leg over. But I have never had it not go away in a day or two, so you can realx a bit, just keep an eye on it, and you should be fine.and Benadryl helps the swelling.
-peace
soulman

odd
07-05-2007, 10:48 PM
Thanks soulman. I don't have any issues with seeing a doc if my shit gets hella' fucked up. Man I guess there is a first time for everything. I have been on this stuff for like 5 years or so and never hit a artery. I just freaked out since this is a first for me. This is the first place I came to since no one knows I use. Thanks for the help man. I'll be keeping a lookout on it and see how it goes.

AWOL
07-05-2007, 10:51 PM
yeah, just keep an eye on it. If it gets any worse you'll have ot go to the dr. Chances are it will be ok, it's gonna hurt though.

soulman
07-05-2007, 10:51 PM
Not a problem my man, it freaked me out the 1st time it happened to me too! Now I'm really careful about just pushing a little at 1st to make sure I'm not in an artery or missing at all.

moviebuff927
07-05-2007, 11:20 PM
So I just hit a artery. I have never done it before, but I know that is what I hit. I did not feel anything when I hit and I registered just fine so I thought. Anyhow I pushed it down and I got a sharp burning/electric feeling in my hand when I pushed down. I did another few mg (about 20) before I realized that it hurts way to fucking much with just getting it in there.

Now my issue is this, my hand is like 3x times the size, I don't feel any pain just numbness from my hand being way too swollen. What can I do? I have heating pads and I ran my hand though hot water for like 5 mins. What should I do? what should I look out for? how do I keep my hand from swelling?

Right now it's hella' swollen and it's hot, but no pain. How long will this last? I an kind of worried because i have never hit a artery. befor and i need to know what to do. Thanks all.

I'm kinda surprised at the lighthearted response to this post...I'd be very concerned. Not trying to make you worry or freak you out, but if I knew for a fact that I had hit an artery (and I'm assuming you were shooting H?) then I'd already be up at the ER. IT IS NOT WORTH losing an arm over, I guarantee you that.

- m o v i e b u f f

odd
07-05-2007, 11:23 PM
Thanks everyone! the swelling seems to be going down. Damn. I just freaked out. I mean I had my share of needle related issues but have never hit a artery before. I just put some heat one it and raised it above my head to keep the blood from flowing there too much. It's looking a lot better.

Thanks everyone who got back at me. You helped me though my panic attacks and general "oh shit" thoughts. Thanks again guys (and gals)

AWOL
07-05-2007, 11:36 PM
I'm kinda surprised at the lighthearted response to this post...I'd be very concerned. Not trying to make you worry or freak you out, but if I knew for a fact that I had hit an artery (and I'm assuming you were shooting H?) then I'd already be up at the ER. IT IS NOT WORTH losing an arm over, I guarantee you that.

- m o v i e b u f f I didn't meant to imply just wait it out overnite or anything. Glad you posted this though MB, you rock.

But if it gets better right away shouldn't be an issue. Prob didn't hit an artery even.

Where / how you hit it would have to be considered too I'd think. But if after 15 mins it's looking pretty normal and all you did was register a bit and think that you hit an artery, I'd keep your eye on it and see.

If you had major blood pressure and things look bad and you know for sure it was an artery, get your ass to the dr.

odd
07-05-2007, 11:39 PM
I'm kinda surprised at the lighthearted response to this post...I'd be very concerned. Not trying to make you worry or freak you out, but if I knew for a fact that I had hit an artery (and I'm assuming you were shooting H?) then I'd already be up at the ER. IT IS NOT WORTH losing an arm over, I guarantee you that.

- m o v i e b u f f

Moviebuff, Like I wrote I have never hit a artery before and have only read about what people went though. For me it went like this.

I hit in my new spot (under the wrist) and had to dig for a bit before I hit. I registered so I did not think anything of it. I pushed in and that is when the pain hit me. I don't need to describe it again as i am sure you all know what it felt like. Since I did not know what hitting a artery felt like and it was not like I read I continued to keep pushing in. After about pushing in 20 units in serious pain I decided to quit this shit and muscled the rest. After it swelled like crazy, but I had no pain and did not feel like I need a hospital, so I posted here.

Trust me, I have almost died from a bad batch of H and it felt wrong as soon as it hit my bloodstream. I am no idiot and if I need a docs help then I am going to get it. I did not feel at this point that I needed that help and came here for guidance. I don't know what you are trying to say but like I said, if I would have thought it was life threatening I would be in the doc's waiting office right now. However it was not and I only wanted help and suggestions on what to do.

Again, I am not an idiot and if I needed to see a doc, I would be there in a heartbeat. I just freaked out on a new problem that I have never encountered. That is all....

AWOL
07-05-2007, 11:42 PM
Might be wise to get to er parking lot and see how it looks when you get there, that way you're already right there incase.

moviebuff927
07-05-2007, 11:46 PM
Moviebuff, Like I wrote I have never hit a artery before and have only read about what people went though. For me it went like this.

I hit in my new spot (under the wrist) and had to dig for a bit before I hit. I registered so I did not think anything of it. I pushed in and that is when the pain hit me. I don't need to describe it again as i am sure you all know what it felt like. Since I did not know what hitting a artery felt like and it was not like I read I continued to keep pushing in. After about pushing in 20 units in serious pain I decided to quit this shit and muscled the rest. After it swelled like crazy, but I had no pain and did not feel like I need a hospital, so I posted here.

Trust me, I have almost died from a bad batch of H and it felt wrong as soon as it hit my bloodstream. I am no idiot and if I need a docs help then I am going to get it. I did not feel at this point that I needed that help and came here for guidance. I don't know what you are trying to say but like I said, if I would have thought it was life threatening I would be in the doc's waiting office right now. However it was not and I only wanted help and suggestions on what to do.

Again, I am not an idiot and if I needed to see a doc, I would be there in a heartbeat. I just freaked out on a new problem that I have never encountered. That is all....

Hey, I never said you were an idiot. I was just concerned with the response of the people posting after you...they made it seem not very serious. I was just saying that if you had indeed hit an artery, and was waiting around to see if it got better, I wouldn't do that. I in no way implied you were an idiot, I don't know how you got that idea. Just trying to help you if you did hit an artery by making you realize it is imperative that you see a doc. And by the title of your post (Help!!! I hit an artery) I was going under the assumption that you knew that you had hit an artery.

But seeing as that you are okay and the arm is not swollen, I would say that you didn't hit an artery. Don't know that for a fact, but most likely you did not hit one. So, you are okay.

Does that clear everything up?

RxQueen
07-05-2007, 11:51 PM
maybe you just hit against a nerve? that can feel like an electric shock too, and cause considerable pain. and in the wrist, everything's just bunched together right close. but yeah, keep an eye on it just in case. glad to hear that it improved already!

soulman
07-05-2007, 11:52 PM
I can attest to the fact that it is not "imperative" that you see a Dr. I know for a fact that I have hit an artery several times(4-5) and I never once saw a Dr. and it went away in a day, I'm not saying that if it didn't go away you don'tneed to see a Dr., but give several hours, it always kept going down for me, but you know your own body, so if you think you need to go.go. But it is defintely not mandatory, as some people on here think you have to go the hospital every time you miss a shot or you'll lose a limb, that just is not the case, not saying you can't but most likely you'll be ok.

Duckfeet
07-05-2007, 11:53 PM
I was re-reading your posts, see what it was you were doing. I see you're in the upper part of SoCal...I'm down here SD... The reason is, if u r doing tar, is that it seems to cause all kinds of problems, not just hitting an artery, but even hitting a nerve. I've been shooting up dope way too long, and this is the worst stuff I've seen for causing abcesses, and blowing veins. Tar is just nast crap, and hardens veins, and if u miss, boy u know it...but u might have just hit a real little vein, u can blow a vein, and it feels like what u described, too...

Anyway, the best recommendation, of course, is to head to the ER. Me, what I do, is what u were recommended. Keep an eye on it, and if it get's worse, or u--or where u hit--starts to get feverish, head to the hospital. Particularly if u start to get a fever, or it gets all hot and feverish. Usually they have some hospital that is used to dealing with abcesses and such, and u can go there, but any ER will do. Good luck, take care of yourself, any doubts, go to the ER and get it looked at....

moviebuff927
07-05-2007, 11:58 PM
I can attest to the fact that it is not "imperative" that you see a Dr. I know for a fact that I have hit an artery several times(4-5) and I never once saw a Dr. and it went away in a day, I'm not saying that if it didn't go away you don'tneed to see a Dr., but give several hours, it always kept going down for me, but you know your own body, so if you think you need to go.go. But it is defintely not mandatory, as some people on here think you have to go the hospital every time you miss a shot or you'll lose a limb, that just is not the case, not saying you can't but most likely you'll be ok.

No, it's not imperative. But I wanted to stress that this is not something that will always go away on its own. If it starts to get worse, there's no guarantee that you'll keep your limb. So for me, I don't know about you, but keeping my limb is something that is imperative to me. They are not going to put you in jail because you shot up. I guess I'm just cautious and better safe than sorry.

But you do what you want...I was just giving MY advice. But "giving it several hours???" I don't think I'd be waiting around very for several hours if my arm is swollen and I just injected into an artery.

Again, I was going under the assumption that he did inject in an artery...when someone posts a thread entitled "HELP!!! I just hit an artery" I take their word for it.

moviebuff927
07-06-2007, 12:03 AM
Not a problem my man.

That's the type of reply that I have a problem with...When someone posts a thread saying they shot in an artery, and someone posts this, I feel compelled to let the OP know that this is not what they need to do...

We all know now that he didn't hit an artery...but we didn't when he originally posted...and I was being cautious and letting the OP know that this is serious if he did hit an artery, especially with street heroin...

TappyTibbons
07-06-2007, 01:28 AM
actually, I believe he was saying "not a problem my man" in response to the original posters thanks, in regards to the information that he provided him, and the swiftness in which it was provided. Could be wrong though

moviebuff927
07-06-2007, 01:42 AM
actually, I believe he was saying "not a problem my man" in response to the original posters thanks, in regards to the information that he provided him, and the swiftness in which it was provided. Could be wrong though

You're right. I'm just saying that had he actually hit an artery, like he said he did, the response should have been more serious and cautious rather than saying it wasn't a problem because I've done this 4 or 5 times and it was never a problem.

Z-man
07-06-2007, 11:40 AM
Seems to me like 2 issues are getting confused here. Just hitting an artery can cause problems, yeah, occasionally serious ones, but most of the time there won't be any reason to immediately head to the ER. On the other hand, when you are talking about fever and swelling, that's an infection and usually needs to be treated fast. Failing to get prompt treatment for an infection can indeed lead to loss of a limb.

The first time I hit an artery it felt exactly as you describe, almost in the exact same place, and in my case after 24 hours the swelling and hurt kept getting worse... Yep, it had gotten infected. I went to the doctor on day 2, and they gave me antibiotics that eventually cured the problem. But just hitting an artery in and of itself is not necessarily something that requires treatment. It certainly doesn't require an immediate trip to the ER.

I agree that tar in particular can be very problematic when you miss a vein. It's godawful stuff, tar... I really feel for those of you who have no access to anything but tar. If you're shooting tar, make extra sure you're really in a vein. Look for dark blood, the darker the better, arteries will always be bright red.

tonyk
07-06-2007, 04:53 PM
If it is still swollen, elevate above the level of your heart. Just to help. Tonyk

AWOL
07-06-2007, 04:58 PM
Moviebuff was right to post like he did, I don't think he was implying anyone was / is an idiot.

We all just went under the assumption of what we first took away from the original post, but honestly if as was stated in the original post "my hand is swollen up to three times the normal size" and the thread title is "help!!!!!!!!! I hit an artery" ........ any time any body part is swollen to 3 times it's normal size get your ass to the ER about 3 days ago. You're going to loose a body part.

Good reply Moviebuff.

roxi*stardust
07-06-2007, 08:27 PM
So I just hit a artery. I have never done it before, but I know that is what I hit. I did not feel anything when I hit and I registered just fine so I thought. Anyhow I pushed it down and I got a sharp burning/electric feeling in my hand when I pushed down. I did another few mg (about 20) before I realized that it hurts way to fucking much with just getting it in there.

Now my issue is this, my hand is like 3x times the size, I don't feel any pain just numbness from my hand being way too swollen. What can I do? I have heating pads and I ran my hand though hot water for like 5 mins. What should I do? what should I look out for? how do I keep my hand from swelling?

Right now it's hella' swollen and it's hot, but no pain. How long will this last? I an kind of worried because i have never hit a artery. befor and i need to know what to do. Thanks all.
Sounds like you hit a nerve. This is actually very common if you use the inside are of your elbow. There are 3 MAJOR nerevs that run through there. They are the Ulnar Nerve, Medial Nerve, and Radial Nerve. Is your whole hand numb or just one specific part?

WarmCyanide
07-06-2007, 08:35 PM
i was thinking the same think roxi as soon as an electric sensation was felt.

soulman
07-06-2007, 08:37 PM
Actually, everyone I know that shoots dope has hit an artery numerous times,and none of us have ever gone to the hospital,and we still have all our limbs:) I'm not saying bad things can't happen, but more often it goes away on it's own. If you think about it, it is just like missing a shot, arteries pump blood to your limbs, so you basically missed a shot, which can become an infection requiring anti-biotics, but usually it goes away on it's own. And yeah, I meant no problem about giving him a personal story to calm him down a bit since this had never happened to him before, I was not saying no problem nothing will happen, I told him to keep an eye on it, and I am pretty much positive he DID hit an artery, because what he described is exactly how i have felt , and I talked to soome friends and they all said the same feelings-reactions.
and nerves dont register a big old bloodflow like arteries do, so I really think he hit an artery, and after talking to the specialists at my local needle exchange they said thats exactly what happens when you hit an artery

candy
07-06-2007, 09:47 PM
I apologize for not reading every post from those who responded.
There are some tell tale signs when you hit an artery.

First off the blood will appear bright red and frothy, like what you see on the top of a capuccino. As soon as you hit it, the syringe would fill with blood quickly and you would probably pop that plunger right out.

Hitting an artery can be painful and immediate moderate pressure should be applied for no less than fifteen minutes.

Could it be possible you hit a nerve or perhaps missed the shot, which both can cause pain and swelling in the area you hit. Especially hitting a nerve, intense pain.

Arteries are usually deeper than veins which are closer to the surface of the skin. Even skilled nurses can't hit an artery if their life depended on it!

Apply heat and ice alternately and take an anti-inflammatory such as Ibuprofen. If it doesn't improve or gets worse, you need to see a doc ASAP.

So, classic signs you have hit an artery....
Bright red frothy looking blood that will very quickly fill your syringe and very likely to pop that plunger off almost instantaneously.
Again, apply pressure for 15 mins. and if you should start to see complications around the site of injection, redness, increase in swelling, increase in pain, and general feelings of not feeling so good, get your ass into the ER and see what is going on!

OK, now get out there and inject correctly!

Duckfeet
07-06-2007, 09:58 PM
Good fucking advice. I thought I'd been around the block a bit, knew most of the things that could happen...but I just want to co-sign what u wrote: tar can be *really* nasty crap, if u miss...or even sometimes if u get a good hit...whatever's in it is just *hell* on veins, and surrounding areas.

down here at the needle xchanges they give books out, warning us of the problems w/tar. I didn't really buy into it....now I do...I just think that shit really isn't meant to be fixed. You'll go thru most of yer veins in a few months...if that long...

good post.





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I agree that tar in particular can be very problematic when you miss a vein. It's godawful stuff, tar... I really feel for those of you who have no access to anything but tar. If you're shooting tar, make extra sure you're really in a vein. Look for dark blood, the darker the better, arteries will always be bright red.

odd
07-06-2007, 10:23 PM
Hey guys I did not mean to cause such a ruckus and did not mean any harm with what I wrote. I admit, I was in panic mode and was reading the responses quite fast to calm myself down. I might have misinterpeted what some people wrote and for that I am sorry. It just felt like i was being attacked, or not knowing what I was talking about. I know you guys (and gals) are here to help so I apologize if I took your post the wrong way.

Anyhow, let's start on a positive note. :p

I kicked it with a friend of mine today who is a nurse for her to check me out and see what is going on. She is one of the few people who know I use and while she does not support it, she will not turn her back on me and will help me when issues like this arise. After my last post, I put a heat pack on my hand and when I woke up the next day (today) to go to work, the swelling was down, but still pretty bad looking. Well I had my nurse friend look at it and she said that I no doubt hit my Deep Radial Artery. She took my blood pressure and a few other things and she said I should be fine. The swelling is way down and I can feel the pulse where I hit. I don't know how I missed that as I usually check for a pulse before I go for it.

I just wanted to let you all know that I am ok. I don't post here much but it's my home when I want advice, or can give it. Again, sorry for the harsh reaction but I am just used to people who think they know more than you or know what is better for you based on what they either went though, or think they know. We are all equals here and I took it the wrong way. So again, sorry.

To end this, my hand and upper arm are much better and the fright of "what did I do!!!!" is gone. My nurse friend told me that it was a good thing my blood pressure is so low, it's what helped me not bleed out so much. I was trying to stop the bleeding for fucking ever last night and it seemed that it would never stop.

Thanks again for all the help and comments people. I do appreciate it.

Duckfeet
07-06-2007, 11:10 PM
I was worried about you myself. So glad you are doing better. It's always better to get somebody in the health field, and you did...so good deal. It ended allright, and maybe you learned from it, IV'ing can be a spooky deal, when things don't go right...





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To end this, my hand and upper arm are much better and the fright of "what did I do!!!!" is gone. My nurse friend told me that it was a good thing my blood pressure is so low, it's what helped me not bleed out so much. I was trying to stop the bleeding for fucking ever last night and it seemed that it would never stop.

Thanks again for all the help and comments people. I do appreciate it.

jonny-5
07-09-2007, 02:18 PM
it seems i just did the same thing as the original poster about 3 hours ago. i was trying to hit a vein on the inside of my left wrist, and was having trouble. i spotted a very small vein, and while trying to hit it went at a very deep angle, and *ploosh* the outfit filled up with an odd amount of blood, and i didnt think anything of it cause i hadnt read this thread yet. i pushed maybe 3-5 units and immediately felt a seering hot sensation running through my hand. i knew what i had done so i stopped. this turned into burning, and swelled up pretty big. i jumped on opiophile, took all of your guys great advice (didnt go to the ER tho). my hand was so swollen that i couldnt open or close it. i took some benedryl and some ibuprophen, and now, 3 hours later, the swelling is almost all gone and everything seems to be getting back to normal. i can now clench my hand into a fist, its still a little swollen but really not that bad. the whole thing was really just like in the past when i have missed in my hand, and i just wanted to thank everyone who gave great info from their experience with this. but word to the wise: if you register and it immediately completely fills up with unusually lightly colored kinda frothy blood, take it out. you are in an artery. i was lucky that i only at most pushed 5 units. thanx again guys
-jonny5 is alive-

dimebagaboy
07-09-2007, 04:01 PM
you will live i know it hurts but thats life quit being a pussy and suck it up it happens to all of us

chopstix
07-09-2007, 04:08 PM
you will live i know it hurts but thats life quit being a pussy and suck it up it happens to all of us

Come again? This site is about harm reduction, maybe you should take that kinda bullshit somewhere else.

alowishus
07-09-2007, 04:49 PM
Naa, that's just dimebag.
He'd shoot his own mother wit dat Ak.

nick
07-09-2007, 05:36 PM
Ah yes,dime's plastic AK.

SHELLEY
08-08-2007, 11:56 AM
Might be wise to get to er parking lot and see how it looks when you get there, that way you're already right there incase.

when i was with my ex
our guy lived near a hospital
and we had to drive to him
(our dealer sold his car for bond money)
and usually boot up in the hospital parking lot afterwards since it was close and safe
i was always on my bf about doing too much cause he od'd a lot
he would say
"if anything happens we're right here anyway,
so i can do as much as i want"

haha i can't believe i was with him for 7 years

sorry to hijack your post what you said just reminded me of that

SHELLEY
08-08-2007, 12:03 PM
Look for dark blood, the darker the better, arteries will always be bright red.

i know the dark blood is better
but that real light red blood
the shit that goes pink when it hits a coke shot
thats an artery?

that explains it...

i fucked up my ankle something terrible last month
with iv cocaine
guess i hit an artery
i couldn't feel my whole lower leg for hours
then it hurt like a sonofawhore

Ganjacake
08-10-2007, 05:10 PM
IM HAVING THAT PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.I hit the big vein on the top of BOTH my hands,and my hands have blown up.It was 2 days ago, and getting much better,i dont know if i missed or what!!but not on both hands. Those veins are huge.It was regular brown shit.Got a good rush both times ,so I asssume I hit?I hope amox and time will get rid of swelling.

jerzyjunk
08-10-2007, 06:13 PM
shit, i hit my artery when i have to be quick about shit.I wouldnt worry too much, sounds like you went thru the artery.You dont feel it as good as hitin a vein. It can be dangerous not something to get in the habit of.You feel the shot alot better hitin a vein so you do tha math.you can tell tha difference just by touching with your finger. If you feel a pulse thru the skin dont go in

Ganjacake
08-10-2007, 06:31 PM
IM HAVING THAT PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.I hit the big vein on the top of BOTH my hands,and my hands have blown up.It was 2 days ago, and getting much better,i dont know if i missed or what!!but not on both hands. Those veins are huge.It was regular brown shit.Got a good rush both times ,so I asssume I hit?I hope amox and time will get rid of swelling.
Whats better for swelling? Heat or Ice,IMPORTANT please.

Hammilton
08-10-2007, 06:52 PM
ice, well, cold. don't over do it on the ice. it's actually pretty easy to cause frost bite using ice straight on the skin.

Best choices are antibiotics (if the injection site is hot, red and swollen) and NSAIDs. Tylenol isn't a useful drug here.

flipside
08-11-2007, 10:35 AM
Hamm is 100% correct, ice for the swelling..then use heat to help the excess fluid absorb back into the tissues once the majority of the swelling has gone down.

And if there is heat & redness at the injection site..esp if it's moving up the vein .antibiotics absolutely and prob a trip to the doctor.

How long has it been since this happneded?

Ganjacake
08-19-2007, 02:48 PM
my major viens on top of my hand are still swollen.10 days later. I feel its getting better. I can snap my fingers now. what did i do ???

djnarkotik
08-19-2007, 04:08 PM
perfect example of why im never going to IV. just seems like an unnatural way to take drugs

grant123
09-13-2007, 10:27 PM
ok so this may be slightly off topic but its a question about arterys.

there is a place that i have recently been hitting a time or two, it is on the inside of my bicep.

if you were to stick your left arm out straight in front of you, and tie off around upper bicep, most males have a vein that runs directly on top of the bicep, as well as the two 'main veins' in theinner elbow spot. the one i am talking about runs from one of the 'main veins' (i think) in my inner elbow over through the inner middle of my arm along my bicep going deeper the farther up my arm it goes.

i have rather skinny arms, but if i tie off real hard i can see it deep in there, about an inchabove my elbow but on the inside of my arm. when i hit it the blood is a brighter red, but not that bright, and it doesnt especially shoot into the rig or fill with blood quickly. just wondering if this spot is a known artery? or where are some other known spots that are visible to a junky that can be mistaken for arterys?

sorry for the crappy grammer/punctuation im tired/high. help me out :) thanks
Grant

WebDevil
10-05-2007, 07:15 PM
my two quids worth. i think moviebuff was only posting with genuine concern for the welfare of the guy who asked for help. and when you hit a nerve it feels like an electric shock and you swell too. but then again you could have hit one. but i think everything else has been already said here. just dont like to see someone put down when they were trying to help from there heart. and no i dont want a full scale argument or war here either. thats the last word im gonna write here
bye