I'm skipping days with Methadone wafers, it works!

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

I know many of you are on Methadone daily for years but those that use recreationally for a week or 2 skipping days is the way to go to avoid Meth W/D. Actually I was told that a person has to take Done daily for a month or more for them to have symptoms of W/D when they stop(1 was a doctor). I didn't really trust that answer so I have been skipping days and it works. I went 2 days without just to see if any W/D's would hit me and I felt cravings like crazy and a tad sweaty but that was it. I'm coming off a 2 month Norco habit and thank done for easing the drop. I didn't want to end up with W/D's from done. Only had 520mg to take each in 40mg wafers and I have been skipping days. I have taken some 2 days in a row but never more. It's really helping and I think I did this right. I'm a skinny dude and drink a lot of water each day so I piss like a race horse so hopefully I'm getting most the junk outta my system. I have tramadol and clonodine just in case the W/D's hit me from my blind side, but so far haven't even used them. Just wanted to put this out there for all you recreational done users. Don't take done longer than 3 weeks daily, you'll regret it. Under 3 weeks for someone who very rarely uses done you'll be ok with proper steps (IMO of course). Be safe!

HMSO

[nick]

Jesus,STOP taking the 'done NOW.

Please.

[Nate]

Yeah i would stop now before you really do withdrawl, done has 36 hour half life man, even with 2 day breaks, isn't going to cut it. Besides that, it doesn't make sense to taper off norcos with done, using a stronger opoid to taper off a weaker opoid just isn't logical, if anything your making it worse dude. Get off the done, hopefully you still can.

Good Luck!

[MttJocy]

The only thing I can do is third that, get off the damn 'done while you still can, if you don't then you will end up with 'done WD's look back here and wish you had listened.

[Nate]

Wow, and i just noticed that you said that u were coming off a 2 MONTH norco habit....my goodness just tough it out, methadone for a 2 month norco habit is ludacris! Hope u get off the done.

[Sitar]

I gotta agree with the other fellows here. You're only asking for trouble if you continue to use the methadone.

I guarantee what will happen is that you will end up replacing the Norco habit with an addiction to methadone, which trust me, is a FAR worse addiction, and it'll happen quicker than you'd think.

Just get rid of the 'done and tough it out; the sooner the better. It may suck for a few days, but you will be far better off in the long run and then you won't have to worry about this shit anymore. Believe me, you are NOT special and you will NOT be able to beat the intense addictiveness of methadone. Your mind telling you that you can get away with it is part of the addiction itself taking hold.

And by the way, you can become dependent on methadone in well under 3 weeks. If you have a prior addiction, you can become dependent on methadone within 3 DAYS. And skipping days doesn't matter at all, especially since methadone has a really long half-life. Even if you skip 3 or 4 days in between just single doses, eventually you will feel worse and worse on the off days until you have to start taking them even more frequently, and then eventually daily in ever-increasing amounts. It's not just a maybe, this WILL happen unless you get off of it NOW.

Heed our advice and just walk away from the 'done or it will bite you in the ass quicker than you can believe.

[HeidiW]

If you keep messing around with 'done, YOU will get hooked before you know it.
And trust me, that shit is nothing nice. For me, methadone has been the very worst
physical addiction I've ever dealt with.

[dannydanko420]

I'm using it for chronic pain and it does just fine. I dont kno what I'm in for though I mean this is my second month on done so who kno's what will happen when I need or want to get off. Thank god I dont abuse the shit.

[Chemical_Boy]

Out of the frying pan, into the furnace of hell!!

At least your skipping days, try skipping three or four. . .If you are getting sweaty after two, I think you are in for it since done WD takes a few days to really kick in good.

It ain't like morphine or oxy or dope where it peaks after a day or two or three...

I am scared for you bro.

[OCfenatiq]

They are right bro, the dones have a very long half life, I think anywhere from 2-4 days or so and the norco is just hydrocodone which only has about a 5 hour half life (estimating on half life but definitely in the ball park). Dones will give you longer w/ds than the norco, probably double the length. In all honesty when I run out of dones I always get at least 5 days worth of hydro of oxy since I'd rather hit that w/d that the dones alone. Do what you want but as you know people on here have been through this junk before (some multiple times) as you know so I would listen if I were you...Hope all goes well for ya...

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

WOW!!.....Yikes......I am NOT switching to Methadone. I CAN'T EVEN GET but 9 dones every 2 months and that is a 50/50 chance. I came off Norco with Done last time(same amount of done I have now and with Tramadol, no harsh w/d's and I didn't skip days) and was clean for almost a damn month until a script of Norco's from my Dentist put me right back on the opiate ride. Why do you guys think I'm skipping days?? Because I'm trying to beat this addiction and taper. Don't worry getting done around here is like trying to find a needle in an ocean. I just HAPPENED to run into a woman who lets go of 5-9 wafers every 2 months or so. You guys definatley took my post wrong. I KNOW done is addictive, but in all honesty I think Vicoden is worse as far as addicting goes. Vicoden hits me a lot better than Done does. After these 3 dones I have left there will be NO WAY to get more, so chill guys. I seriously thank you for the concern though!

HMSO

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Wow, and i just noticed that you said that u were coming off a 2 MONTH norco habit....my goodness just tough it out, methadone for a 2 month norco habit is ludacris! Hope u get off the done.

Oh and I say 2 month Norco habit because I quit for almost a month and got back on. Been back on for 2 months. I've been addicted to Norco for 2 1/2 years

Did you guys even read my last 2 sentences??

[Chemical_Boy]

Oh and I say 2 month Norco habit because I quit for almost a month and got back on. Been back on for 2 months. I've been addicted to Norco for 2 1/2 years

Did you guys even read my last 2 sentences??

Punctuation and paragraphs my friend. Your post ain't too bad- I have done worse, but short concise thouts with likes between help;

Pewace!!

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Punctuation and paragraphs my friend. Your post ain't too bad- I have done worse, but short concise thouts with likes between help;

Pewace!!

I'm confused...:p

[Sitar]

I KNOW done is addictive, but in all honesty I think Vicoden is worse as far as addicting goes.

Uhhhhh.... WHAT?

[MttJocy]

I KNOW done is addictive, but in all honesty I think Vicoden is worse as far as addicting goes

Christ man, if you think that don't get a done habit you will be in for the shock of your life, Vicodin more addictive than 'done WTF?

By the way something does not need to create a massive high to be addictive, take nicotine for an example, most smokers don't get a rush from each cigarette or at least very little, they are still hooked on it and the physical component of opiate dependence is much greater than nicotine and physical dependence does not rely on one feeling a high at all.

[Nate]

You honestly thinks vikes are more addictive... all i can say is that quiting vikes is a walk in the park compared to kicking methadone.

If you really want to get clean just get some good support meds and go cold turkey, replacing a norco habit (weak opiod) with a methadone habit (strong opiod) is ludacris to begin with.

We are not trying to be offensive dude, just seriously don't fuck with methadone, especially since it appears you really have no idea with what your fucking with.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Aiight well I have no more to say, it seems most of you aren't reading my full post. I CAN'T GET ENOUGH METHADONE to become addicted!!!!! That's my last post about this subject, I really regret even posting now.... I seriously thank you guys for all the concern though. And yes I think Vicoden is better than done therefore I see it more addictive then done(IMHO). Maybe your right Jocy maybe Adone is like Nicotine but I didn't wake up this morning craving done, I woke up craving Vicoden. At least you guys took the time out to try an help me with something you thought I was doing. Thanks.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

WOW!!.....Yikes......I am NOT switching to Methadone. I CAN'T EVEN GET but 9 dones every 2 months and that is a 50/50 chance. I came off Norco with Done last time(same amount of done I have now and with Tramadol, no harsh w/d's and I didn't skip days) and was clean for almost a damn month until a script of Norco's from my Dentist put me right back on the opiate ride. Why do you guys think I'm skipping days?? Because I'm trying to beat this addiction and taper. Don't worry getting done around here is like trying to find a needle in an ocean. I just HAPPENED to run into a woman who lets go of 5-9 wafers every 2 months or so. You guys definatley took my post wrong. I KNOW done is addictive, but in all honesty I think Vicoden is worse as far as addicting goes. Vicoden hits me a lot better than Done does. After these 3 dones I have left there will be NO WAY to get more, so chill guys. I seriously thank you for the concern though!

HMSO

[Crow]

Dude, everyone is trying to save your ass. Please, respect their words or you will come back crying. Even with the amount you are getting, you could go through methadone WD, and that is the closest thing to hell I've ever been or seen anyone go through. It does not matter what you crave when you wake up. Believe me, you will kill for done when you dont get enough and you start to feel sick. Again, we arent trying to fuck with you, just watch out brother, for your own good.

I might add, just so you might realize what you are screwing with, kicking vicodens with mutherf'ing heroin would be more beneficial. Hahahaha.

(Not beneficial in the least bit, but still would be better than using methadone.)

[blenderqueen]

Don't feel bad hon I posted about the same thing a few months ago using done (just for like a week & tapering down) to get past or at least reduce my mega hydro/oxy addiction plus add in the compliacation that I NEED the OC's I am scripted for mega chronic pain that is NOT in my head it's a tricky mess. but I got my ass chewed out too LOL.

I unlike you however, was not even successful kicking the hydro/oxy with using mdone. maybe I didnt take enough as you are taking 40 & I only had some 10mg tabs & it just dindn't do the trick for me but for a few hours & then I just craved so damn bad I couldn't resist my DOC. though maybe not scientifically correct I get what you are saying about the hydro being more addictive as I also can not seem to give it up even now with a legit OC & perc script & I was told that is all in my h ead I am crazy blah blah so do't take it personal K? I know how ya feel! lol but they are just warning you about methadone being the devil! ;)

I feel like you, I can't or dont' have/get enough to worry about it but I found it too ineffective plus the long half life scares me as I have no idea how long to wait between doses, til I can take a benzo etc etc. so it just didnt' seem worth it to me. tried to kick or reduce, skip days with morph IR too but that only worked for about a day so I am still in the major throughs (sp) of it. not trying to do anything about it ATM but enjoy the good days. maybe I'll get the urge to try & kick/reduce down the road but too much on my plate right now so just taking it day by day. anyhow if you read back through my older posts you will see I got the same reaction. hang in there & I hope itworks again! you are lucky to be free of the demon of any addiction IMHO no matter how you get there!

xo
queenie

[CSiiSEQ]

HMSO- I think you might be missing part of what some people have tried to say. Just because you can skip a day, doesn't mean you are not physically dependent. With the usage you described, it's hard to tell if you are or not. If someone was trying to avoid H dependence, they would want to put at least 3 day breaks in-between use. Methadone has a half life many times longer and would require much longer breaks to prevent dependence. I got the impression, they just wanted you to be careful and know that you might not have beat this as easily as you think, hopefully you did but you'll know soon enough!

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Don't feel bad hon I posted about the same thing a few months ago using done (just for like a week & tapering down) to get past or at least reduce my mega hydro/oxy addiction plus add in the compliacation that I NEED the OC's I am scripted for mega chronic pain that is NOT in my head it's a tricky mess. but I got my ass chewed out too LOL.

I unlike you however, was not even successful kicking the hydro/oxy with using mdone. maybe I didnt take enough as you are taking 40 & I only had some 10mg tabs & it just dindn't do the trick for me but for a few hours & then I just craved so damn bad I couldn't resist my DOC. though maybe not scientifically correct I get what you are saying about the hydro being more addictive as I also can not seem to give it up even now with a legit OC & perc script & I was told that is all in my h ead I am crazy blah blah so do't take it personal K? I know how ya feel! lol but they are just warning you about methadone being the devil! ;)

I feel like you, I can't or dont' have/get enough to worry about it but I found it too ineffective plus the long half life scares me as I have no idea how long to wait between doses, til I can take a benzo etc etc. so it just didnt' seem worth it to me. tried to kick or reduce, skip days with morph IR too but that only worked for about a day so I am still in the major throughs (sp) of it. not trying to do anything about it ATM but enjoy the good days. maybe I'll get the urge to try & kick/reduce down the road but too much on my plate right now so just taking it day by day. anyhow if you read back through my older posts you will see I got the same reaction. hang in there & I hope itworks again! you are lucky to be free of the demon of any addiction IMHO no matter how you get there!

xo
queenie

Blender thank you SO much for posting babe! You made my day, you KNOW what I am trying to say so thanks. I thank ALL of you guys and have respect for you ALL!! Thanks for telling me what I already knew hahaha I'm joking I meant that in a just fucking around voice or as my Mom would say a "jokingly manner"(She's an English teacher ;)). But yeah I've read too many Meth horror stories and know how bad done can be if used wrong or for a long time. I'll say this one last time friends hehe "Getting Methadone around here is like trying to find the loch ness monster in a puddle!". Therefore IMPOSSIBLE for me to get dependent on. The girl I got these last dones from now knows not to ever answer my calls(don't know where she lives, which is a good thing) anymore because I called and told her today I'm finished. So getting dones here is pretty much impossible like I said. I will hit hydro W/D's I KNOW because I took the same amount of done last time WITHOUT skipping days and I had that ohh so familiar hydro W/D which was actually pretty bearable with Tramadol and Clonodine(A Godsend for opiate W/D I might add). I'm also going to ask my Doc tomm for Soma to help RLS. Thanks a ton guys! I know all you were trying to do was save my ass and I appreciate it. I was just getting frustrated because maybe some of yall skipped the part about me NOT being able to get dones. Please pray for me guys because this kick feels different, I really think I can do it this time. I'm tired of the pathetic cycle everyday, opiates rape you of emotions and feelings. I wanna feel again, I want to live a clean life. Again Blender, Thank you SO much for posting what you did, it put a smile on my face! :D

HMSO

[nick]

"jockingly manner" and you Mom is an English teacher!! This is such poor English it's not true.

and man,I AM English.

[Rhonda]

Jolly good and pip pip!
Does anyone really even say that? Or is it something from the movies?
I know they say wanker a lot that was from Trainspotting.

[nick]

Jolly good and pip pip!
Does anyone really even say that? Or is it something from the movies?
I know they say wanker a lot that was from Trainspotting.

Folks only say jolly good and pip pip in the movies,but many people say wanker-often.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

"jockingly manner" and you Mom is an English teacher!! This is such poor English it's not true.

and man,I AM English.

Yeah, that's why I said she's an English teacher because it's funny she says that. I didn't say that was proper English............... And since we're on the topic of English, it's your Mom, Not you Mom. ;) Are you sure your English?? Sounds chiwanese to me haha "You Mom teach English it no true" lol jk

[nick]

Yeah, that's why I said she's an English teacher because it's funny she says that. I didn't say that was proper English............... And since we're on the topic of English, it's your Mom, Not you Mom. ;) Are you sure your English?? Sounds chiwanese to me haha "You Mom teach English it no true" lol jk

A missed r is a little different than "jockingly manner."


Oh and I maybe English,but I'm not being PAID to teach English.

[greasy_bear]

The nasty part of methadone withdrawl isn't its intensity as much as how long it lasts.
My legs ached for weeks and weeks and it was months before I could sleep for more than an hour at a time.
You have no idea what a miserable bitch it is compared to kicking hydro, or any other opiate (dope included).

[blenderqueen]

I am glad I made your day! Now you made mine:o

good luck with your kick this time & I h ope it sticks hang in there! Iv'e kicked dope dope so damn many times in the past only to start up again. now it's not dope but too many pills:rolleyes:

anyhow not meaning to hijack this is your thread & I hope your final days of kicking are successful & that you manage to get through it with minor or no withdrawals. as for the tramadol I have known so so many ppl say it helps w/ds but damn for me it just makes me crave more & makes me jittery & cranky.. but glad it works for you. I know at this point I will never ever be quitting unless there is a way to treat what I have & rght now there isn't but I would surelly like to get back to just taking/needingwaht the legit Dr. scripts & no more t his through the roof tolerance sucks ass!!!! how many a day were you taking can I ask? anyhow best of luck to ya dear!

take care
queenie

[OCfenatiq]

I didn't read all the posts after yours saying hydrocodone is stronger than dones but the reason you may think that is that done has to guild up in your system before it hits you harder... It last several days in your system so the second and third day is when it really kicks in the best so since you are skipping days may be why you think it is not as strong. Also the first time I had dones I didn't like it the first week or so, I don't know maybe your body has to adjust to it but for real kid, once you start taking dones you could be in for a surprise. Also your hydro dose is pretty low and taking dones is going to shoot up your tolerence, just giving you some info bro...

[Nate]

I do apologize if I came off rude, I guess you could say i was just stressing the point that you would be better to go ct, then to use methadone.

I'm not putting down methadone in any way, it has saved many many people, and gotten peoples lives back on track, but it comes with a cost... so ultimetly its your choice, just be careful.

Take care, if u need any help or someone to talk to don't hesitate to pm me, I just want to help.

Nate

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

I do apologize if I came off rude, I guess you could say i was just stressing the point that you would be better to go ct, then to use methadone.

I'm not putting down methadone in any way, it has saved many many people, and gotten peoples lives back on track, but it comes with a cost... so ultimetly its your choice, just be careful.

Take care, if u need any help or someone to talk to don't hesitate to pm me, I just want to help.

Nate

Nate that's real man, I appreciate it. And the rest of you as well thanks.

Blender are you talking about dones or hydro? I was only taking 1 40mg methadone 2 days then skip did that for 2 weeks. I was taking 15-20 Norco 10/325 a day. Glad I made your day as well thanks!

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Hi, just an update. Day 5 and I'm doing good. Don't crave Methadone in the slightest. Been to work all 5 days. No major W/D's other than the utter crappy feeling you get when stopping opiates. Pretty happy about how the whole thing went. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone, but for me taking done for 2 1/2 weeks 40mg(never 60mg or over, that's when the bad W/D's hit I was told), helped a ton with Vicodin addiction.

[blenderqueen]

Nate that's real man, I appreciate it. And the rest of you as well thanks.

Blender are you talking about dones or hydro? I was only taking 1 40mg methadone 2 days then skip did that for 2 weeks. I was taking 15-20 Norco 10/325 a day. Glad I made your day as well thanks!

hmmm can you tell me what I said? LOL as for hydro I am probably up close to where you are by now but not at the moment as I am out LOL but I also am on Oc's40 & percs 60 a month. now those I cant' get more of.

I would say I am around the 15 range plus in the hydro catgory On top of my regular dosage &sometimes extra :p of the OC & percs.... so hope that answers your question.

as for the done I only took 15mg. I felt ok for a few hours after but then I couldnt' handle the craving later in the day & since I still had hydro in the house , well you know.....:o I prob should have started with at least 20mgs like I was told to. but for me with any med I am not used to , I really like to start small to see how it is going to affect me instead of diving in full force. especially b/c I have kids. & my DH is not privvy to the fact I scored some dones so that would not go over well. "Hey honey can you watch the kids so I can spend a few days on done" LOL

I have a few left in case of emergency , like if I would run out of everything. in that case I would use them again otherwise no but your post was very informative & helpful to me.

are you clean of all now (prob should read down further lol sorry) & planning to stay off the hydro now?

I know eveyrone hates & says using methadone is an awful way to kick a hydro habit but when your up as high as `5-20 pills I do'nt personally think it's totally out there, or to use to skip a few days & give the ol liver a break!!!!! seems you did it responsibly & it worked out well for you so I am relly glad you posted as when I tried to get some advice on that awhile back I didnt make out so well (did you ever read that thread?) so your story was very informative & helpful to me. thanks hon!
BQ

[reddragon3668]

I take methadone, and have for many years now, for chronic pain. The BIGGEST difference I can see between it and any other narcotic I've tried is that if when I was on OC's and stuff, if I ran out for the month early, I WD'd for a few days and then it was just the legitimate pain that I had to deal with. Now, on methadone, running out isn't an option. Period. I mean, I'd end up in the hospital.. I can't even begin to tell you the hell I go through by having to simply decrease my dose to get through the month.... unfortunately, it happens to me sometimes... and I get a boat load of the shit. So... in retrospect, I would run from the methadone like I was running for my life....if I had it all over to do again.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

hmmm can you tell me what I said? LOL as for hydro I am probably up close to where you are by now but not at the moment as I am out LOL but I also am on Oc's40 & percs 60 a month. now those I cant' get more of.

I would say I am around the 15 range plus in the hydro catgory On top of my regular dosage &sometimes extra :p of the OC & percs.... so hope that answers your question.

as for the done I only took 15mg. I felt ok for a few hours after but then I couldnt' handle the craving later in the day & since I still had hydro in the house , well you know.....:o I prob should have started with at least 20mgs like I was told to. but for me with any med I am not used to , I really like to start small to see how it is going to affect me instead of diving in full force. especially b/c I have kids. & my DH is not privvy to the fact I scored some dones so that would not go over well. "Hey honey can you watch the kids so I can spend a few days on done" LOL

I have a few left in case of emergency , like if I would run out of everything. in that case I would use them again otherwise no but your post was very informative & helpful to me.

are you clean of all now (prob should read down further lol sorry) & planning to stay off the hydro now?

I know eveyrone hates & says using methadone is an awful way to kick a hydro habit but when your up as high as `5-20 pills I do'nt personally think it's totally out there, or to use to skip a few days & give the ol liver a break!!!!! seems you did it responsibly & it worked out well for you so I am relly glad you posted as when I tried to get some advice on that awhile back I didnt make out so well (did you ever read that thread?) so your story was very informative & helpful to me. thanks hon!
BQ

Well Blender I wouldn't say quit all the way.... These damn cravings... I will say I am using A LOT less Vicodin than I was. I used 10 pills yesterday and thats amazing seeing that my old dose was 20+ a day. So on the 7th day I was feeling fine, I just was handed a bottle of Vicodin and couldn't resist. When I can change people places and things, I truley believe I can live a clean life. But until then.... I'm glad my post helped you Blender! Hope your doing alright. Take Care.

HMSO