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panthrax
06-11-2007, 08:38 AM
Morphine to Heroin conversion - If you wish to do this synth from codiene, then see the second post of this thread and then start where appropriate.

If you have ever tried to inject the new time released opiate pills like MS contin or OxyContin you probably know that its damn near impossible to get more than usually 25 % using just plain old water and sometimes you cant get any. So if you would like to get the dope free of all the gack in the pills this procedure should work. Using this procedure will work for pretty much all the problematic shit in most pills, like hydroxypropyl and methyl cellulose, talc, ethylene glycol etc etc. Once again this procedure is for MS CONTIN, and other time release opiate pills only. If you have morphine sulphate, all you need to do is get rid of the sulphate, that procedure is listed below.
So heres a step by step easy as shit way.


Supplies:
* Mineral spirits or varsol
* Toluene or Chloroform
* Concentrated Ammonia or some other base
* Muriatic Acid or some other acid
* Pyrex bowl
* Porcelain bowl
* 60 mL gardening syringe
* Glasses
* Graduated measuring cup
* Paper coffee filters
* hydrion pH papers
* Heat source - If you want to do it professionally, then use a labratory heating element device listed in the elemental scientific catalogue. Right next to the magnetic stirring devices, which you might want as well. both items will cost you a total of $300. Otherwise this works as well -(outside with one of those camping stoves with an electric element would be the best, But if you must do it indoors and use your oven you better turn on the over head fan and pull a stool up next to your stove and be ready with the lid to the bowl just incase it flashes.)

All of this stuff can be bought at hardware and gardening stores but if you can't manage to find Toluene because youre from the USA buy it from [Edit: a place]. Muriatic would be the best but if you cant get it other stuff like citric or acetic will work too. The preferred base would be concentrated Ammonia but if you cant get that household ammonia will work, Caustic lime or soda or potash will also work.

1- Remove the pill coating from your 20 pills with a piece of tissue paper dampened with acetone, if you dont have acetone laying around your crib just use water.

2-Crush up your 20 pills with shells removed and then place the powder in the pyrex casserole bowl. Make up a 50 mL solution of distilled water that is slighly acidic around pH 5 or 6. Add the Acidic Water to the powder and let them soak with no heat.

3-Make up a solution (150 mL) of 80% mineral spirits and 20% toluene or the substitutions of the two. Add this solution to the Acidic water and stir vigirously for a few minutes.
Not your usual food in this oven today!

4-Be precise - use a themometer to moniter the inside temps. The temps stated on the dial do not heat the oven to the temperature listen on the dial. Turn the stove up to about 50 degrees celcius and leave it for ten minutes now turn it up to 80 degrees celcius and leave it for an additional 10 or fifteen minuites. During this time period stir the solution ever few minutes. Now tilt the bowl up and suck up with your syringe the entire 50 mL water solution (which is the bottom layer) and even 10 ml (in a seperate action) of the Nonpolar layer. Squirt out the Water layer into a clean pocelain bowl that can be heated on the stove, MAKE SURE you dont get any of the non polar into it.

5-Add an additional 50 mL of acidic water to the pyrex bowl and do exactly the same thing as you did with the previous 50 mL. You're done with the non polar so you can put it away. Once you have the 100 mL of the morphine/water solution in the porcelain bowl put it on the stove and heat to 90 degrees celcius for 5 minutes. (Around halfway between low and the next notch up before medium on your stove) You should really use a labratory heating element. Now while its still piping hot pour it into a clean glass and funnel cup with cotton stuffed in the spout of the funnel. Pour in an extra 5 ml through the funnel to get an morphine thats trapped.

6- Add Ammonia to the solution drop by drop until you hit a pH of 9.1. One you hit the 9.1 put the bowl in the freezer for 15 minutes stir it up then put it in the refridgerator for another 15 minutes. now pour the stuff into a funnel with 3 coffe filters in it, make sure to wet the filters with cold water before you pour in the mix. Once its filtered you will get the morphine freebase, if you wanna inject it as it is just mix it with some vinegar or dry it out and cook it with Acetic anhydride. Edit: [This is not a good idea! Injecting an unknown quantity of acid, probably fairly concentrated, is a very bad idea! robo] So theres a walkthrough step by step, its not so bad, plus its better than wasting dope by trying to make it injectable with just water. Once you have this base cooking up heroin is even easier than this extraction. BTW this extraction on average yields about 95 percent of the total morphine from the pills.

For the heroin conversion you have to get morphine freebase. If you have morphine in a salt form (morphine sulpahte) just simply add enough water to your Morphine salt for it all to dissolve, then add Ammonia drop by drop until you get around pH of 9. Once you hit that ph just throw the solution in the refrigerator for awhile and then filter, once filtered you can clean it of any traces of the salt by spraying it with small portions of clean water.

Now, Converting your Morphine into street quality Heroin (diacetylmorphine)

Procedure:
First, place some of your converted morphine into a metal spoon and add 2 X the weight acetic anhydride (so 1 gram of M to 2 grams of AA) and then cover with a piece of aluminum foil and bake in the oven at around 100 degrees Celsius, for at least 1 hour (preferrably 6). Then uncover and turn the oven off. Either let the AA evaporate by itself Edit [Not likely, it will pull water out of the air and make glacial acetic acid], or you can place the spoon on the heating element (burner) on your stove 2 distill off the AA, it boils at 140 degrees C, if you do that make sure you leave a little bit of AA in the spoon and let that little bit evaporate at room temp, cause you dont want to burn the heroin. Then place the remaining substance in the refrigerator. When the substance is cold, you can move it to a burner (torch lighter) and just heat till you think its at about at least 80 degree's and sniff a couple inches above it. It shouldnt sting your nose, if it does just heat it lightly some more until the smell goes away. Then scrape the hard, dry heroin off the spoon with another spoon, and place it under a one dollar bill. Then using your lighter rub back and forth over the dollar bill, and crush your brittle heroin.Voila! Now the final product is street quality heroin. Ready to either be taken or sold.

1- Heroin baking in the oven
2- Heroin placed on the stovetop after baking
3- Heroin placed on the stove element set at (around medium low, to low)
4- Heroin almost done roughly two minutes left

Hold the dollar bill to the surface with your left hand, and rub the lighter against the bill with your right hand. You need to do this in order to crush the Heroin into injectable powder.

panthrax
06-11-2007, 08:39 AM
Codeine to morphine/heroin extraction

**Make not that [Edit: the place] does not carry pyridine hydrochloride, therefor if you cannot get it youself, you cannot extract the morphine. If you cannnot find pyridine hydrochloride on your own, please use the morphine sulphate to heroin conversion described below.**

Now, make up a caustic solution of about 200ml of water. This is done by slowly adding NaOH to the solution until it has a pH balance of 12 (use cheap pH strips). Then add 30ml of it to the codeine/water mix and then add 50ml of chloroform and shake and allow the heavier solvent to sink to the bottom. Then you must separate off the chloroform layer by using a siphon (use an eyedropper if you need to), then wash the remanding solution again with 30ml of chloroform and once again remove it. Now you must separate all the water from the solvent and I mean every last drop. All of the water must be out, and you can pipette it or use a separator of some kind (like a flask with a tap, so you shut it off when the water gets close to running through). Then evaporate off the chloroform with a pot filled with simmering water in it. Just have a plate sitting on top of the pot and slowly tip in solution and watch white crystalline codeine base appear as the chloroform reduces out by dryness. Edit: [Never mix chloroform with a strong base like hydroxide unless you know WTF you are doing! This will generate carbenes, which are highly reactive and not in the way that you want. This procedure intends to use CHCl3 as a solvent. Using NaOH with it is only done when the CHCl3 is a reagent as well. Methylene chloride will serve just as well and is safer, not that one can go pick this shit up at the local supermarket]

Tips: You want white codeine not brown and always use glass; its easier to clean.

Next step producing Morphine from Codeine:Now, you need to then measure out about 3 grams of pyridine HCL for approximately one and a half grams of codeine and melt it in a long boiling tube (or big test-tube). Then when melted, place in the codeine and it all must dissolve and be able to swish around. Then immediately plug the tube with a tightly rolled paper napkin. It will turn different colors and it will be hard to tell when it's cooked, but let it take about 5 minutes or when the temperature hits around 230 Celsius and then it will be done, and it will stick to the sides of the tube when ready. Then tip all of it into a clean beaker with 100ml of water. Then tip some water back into the now cooler test-tube and rinse all of it out into the beaker. Next add caustic solution drop by drop till you get to pH 14 (take about 3ml of the solution stated above). You will need some pH papers. Now wash the solution with chloroform say 40ml shake well and allow to settle or centrifuge (spin), pipette off the top aqueous layer. Then drop the pH to 9 and shine a light through it; you'll see it thicken with this brown mud like shit. Don't go past 9, add one or two small drops once you hit 9 and filter that crap out. The beat way is to use a vacuum filter with really good filter paper. Now, check the pH you want it to go no lower than 7.5 (using HCL spirits of salts and hydrochloric acid) while it gets to 8pH start rubbing the sides of the beaker with a glass rod or handle of a wooden spoon right in the liquid at the water level rub hard on the beaker glass and morphine will seed in clouds off crystals, then filter them out and dry high above an heating element on a metal spoon (leave the dope on the filter paper and dry it then it is easy to get off it flakes off in chunks). Note: These crystalline codeine particles can be taken orally (under your tongue for faster results) or mixed in a drink, if you wish not to convert it into heroin.

Now, Converting your Morphine into street quality Heroin (diacetylmorphine)Procedure:First, place some of your converted morphine into a metal spoon and add 2 X the weight acetic anhydride (so 1 gram of M to 2 grams of AA) and then cover with a piece of aluminum foil and bake in the oven at around 100 degrees Celsius, for at least 1 hour (preferrably 6). Then uncover and turn the oven off. Either let the AA evaporate by itself, or you can place the spoon on the heating element (burner) on your stove 2 distill off the AA, it boils at 140 degrees C, if you do that make sure you leave a little bit of AA in the spoon and let that little bit evaporate at room temp, cause you dont want to burn the heroin. Then place the remaining substance in the refrigerator. When the substance is cold, you can move it to a burner (torch lighter) and just heat till you think its at about at least 80 degree's and sniff a couple inches above it. It shouldnt sting your nose, if it does just heat it lightly some more until the smell goes away. Voila! Now the final product is street quality heroin. Ready to either be taken or sold. Instuctions for purification and properly injecting heroin.

panthrax
06-11-2007, 08:40 AM
This guide originally has pictures, showing step-by-step. But unfortunately, the board only allows 5 images per post. And this guide demands 17 images.

If an administrator would temporarily allow 17 images for this post, I could post the full, with pics, guide.

Either way though, enjoy.

matfield
06-15-2007, 08:06 PM
great posts-points to you

euphoria2002
06-15-2007, 09:37 PM
Yes, but has anybody ever actually done it outside of a pharmaceutical companies' lab? Not to be a downer (no pun intended) but it's one ting to read the instructions, and another to do it without poisoning yourself from unwanted byproducts.

nick
06-16-2007, 03:27 AM
I think we're in Woods world again.

AWOL
06-16-2007, 03:43 AM
I think we're in Woods world again. :eek:

panthrax
06-16-2007, 10:28 AM
Don't worry, it's tried and true. :)

nick
06-16-2007, 10:31 AM
Don't worry, it's tried and true. :)

So is splitting atoms,but I'm not gonna try that either man.

pharmboy
06-16-2007, 11:27 AM
I tried this with about ten Roxane Oramorph 60mg.
I could'nt get it to precipitate.
ended up with a beaker of siliconized goo.:(

Paregoric Kid
06-16-2007, 11:50 AM
it's simple, for codeine to morphine you just have to demethylate it and for morphine to heroin you acetylate it with acetic anhydride for example. anyone with the right knowledge of chemical reactions, the right equipment, and the right ingredients can do it. check out the rhodium archive for a lot of good synths.

panthrax
06-20-2007, 08:45 AM
So is splitting atoms,but I'm not gonna try that either man.

Haha, true. So true!

devilsdrug
06-20-2007, 06:45 PM
this is fukkin stupid as i told ol lost in the woods woods

flipside
06-20-2007, 10:11 PM
this is fukkin stupid as i told ol lost in the woods woods

Bout time you popped in. The impresions we've been doing of you are pretty poor. We need the origninal.

WELCOME BACK!!!

LegalizeOpiates
06-20-2007, 11:00 PM
how to make heroin easily? it took me a great deal of effort just to read your whole post

poonwhalla
06-20-2007, 11:07 PM
IMO its just easier and cheaper to go buy heroin if that is what I need. It would be a fun hobby though

matfield
06-22-2007, 05:25 PM
^^yeah but nevertheless its interesting!

Boudica
06-22-2007, 06:14 PM
Makin' some right now - bakin' with a batch o' biscuits in me oven.

panthrax
06-25-2007, 06:18 PM
Well yes, reading the guide may seem confusing. That is why there were pictures included.

If an Administrator would allow 17 images for this thread, I could make it a picturiol.

flipside, care to comment?

insaneike
06-27-2007, 05:55 AM
Umm, I'm pretty sure you would have some unwanted products in there man.. there is a little more to it(to make GOOD diamorph, and SAFE diamorph) than mixing morph with acetic anhydrous and evaping man...? I'm sure you might get diacetylmorphine(heroin) in the end product but is it going to be the RIGHT way and something you would want to iungest? I think not lol. SWIM was going to do this because they came across a nice bottle of AA once and well, it's not THAT simple! I could pull up some info if anyone is interested. I would NOT want to try this folks... but thats just me.

Pan have you personally hypothetically done this? and SHOT IT!?!?! I'd assume sell my morph and buy some damn heroin, WAY easier and better I'm sure...

I forget exactly but someone do some research and find out if it can be as simple as mixing pure morph with AA and evaping down to dry product... Show some hard proof that this end prooduct is purish enough to use, and not got all kinds of nasty shit you dont.. mostimoprtantly nothing dangerous, and that it fully converts? Any scientific links supporting this process. i knwo you'll get diacetylmorphine but how safe and 'right' is it? Actually i know there is more complicating not lying around the house stuff involved...(not hard, but more than that). but to each his own!
you really shot that stuff pan!?!? How'd it compare to the kill street dope that goes around these parts ona weight to weight scale? Well then agian you also used to shoot crack with lemon juice lol :p I miss panny lol

Not to mention finding real and good acetic anhydrous is harder than finding purish kill dope!!!!!!! Yes, it really is... So why go through all the hassle when you can just go cop? All in all i would personally sell the morphine and buy some dope, You could get way more dope that way too, Probably better and purer too with less nasty unwanted stuff(im like 80% sure there is ore to it than you mentioned in the final step. though your cleaning the pills method seems pretty good). What is the original source of said info anyway man?

pharmboy
06-27-2007, 07:14 AM
This sounds kinda like the ( Heroin Purification to Nearly USP ) on Erowid.

Woowoo
06-27-2007, 08:07 AM
I look at these recipes with envy... if I ever tried to do this I'd end up with bug-killer or something. I can't even make an omelette without fucking it up.

flipside
06-27-2007, 08:14 AM
Well yes, reading the guide may seem confusing. That is why there were pictures included.

If an Administrator would allow 17 images for this thread, I could make it a picturiol.

flipside, care to comment?


This is Robojunkie's forum to moderate. He's our chemist in residence. If he has no objection I'll do it. But it' s his call.

tui
06-27-2007, 04:58 PM
that sounded v complicated. but in nz, cos there is no street heroin, making morphine pills into h is an everyday thing. there is a simpler way to do it, takes about 20-30min but you end up with injectable h. never seen it made into a powder. and all you need is AA, and a bit of citric.
easy than baking cookies, seriously.

t

euphoria2002
06-27-2007, 07:15 PM
Don't worry, it's tried and true. :)

You try it..... we'll see if it's true.

Seriously, if one could easily (as stated in the thread title) make heroin from MScontins or codeine, it would be all over the place.

The fact is, H is actually being displaced by pharms as the opiate of choice in most cities. About the only exceptions to this are port cities like Vancouver, Seattle and of course New York.

stringbeanjeans
06-27-2007, 07:21 PM
What???



Sorry I completely lost you here. Sounds like it would take more time than its worth.

euphoria2002
06-27-2007, 07:23 PM
String, you referring to my post?

If so....Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I mean, did you actually read all those instructions and ingredients?
The title of the thread says "how to easily make Heroin ....etc. etc."
Didn't look so easy to me. But maybe that's because I'm a retard or something.

stringbeanjeans
06-27-2007, 07:40 PM
String, you referring to my post?

If so....Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I mean, did you actually read all those instructions and ingredients?
The title of the thread says "how to easily make Heroin ....etc. etc."
Didn't look so easy to me. But maybe that's because I'm a retard or something.


I was just referring back to the original post. I agree with you though. A $10 bag of dope sounds like a steal if you'd have to do all that work.

People can make lots of drugs. I could see someone doing that method if they had a chemist and LOTS of pills, but I don't have either.

Dan Steely
06-28-2007, 02:56 AM
In canada you can get codeine otc so I'm sure it happens up der.

pharmboy
06-28-2007, 03:07 AM
I GOTTA get to Vancover for various reasons!

Dirtyrockstar
06-28-2007, 04:00 AM
the whole codeine thing certainly is long and involved, the done thing by most of the boys i know who wanna cook up their greys or "do a bake" is smash em to fuck on a BIG spoon with a few drops of AA ( we call it Acca, short for AC/DC, if u dont know bury ur head in the sand) and i think its a little bicarb to fix the ph. i could be wrong i dont do it myself. then yeah, cover with foil then whack in the oven on about 190 for about 20-25mins or until u get that nice red scab. then take it out, take off the foil and once the vinegar/cancer smell is gone hit with water filter and away u go. the less water the stronger, 100mg per one ml of water is good. im almost certain this yields monoacetylmorphine rather than diacetylmorphine but its a fuckn good hit either way.

robojunkie
07-16-2007, 11:33 PM
I've shot vodka and I wouldn't shoot something that came out of evaporated acetic anhydride and the acetic acid formed as it slowly evaps. In reality it would be diluted in water, washed with methylene chloride, preciped with bicarb, retaken into acidic (HCl) ethanol and preciped as a clean white powder with ether. Obviously there are a number of fairly straightforward variations on solvents and such but I don't even want to think about what's in the heroin from morphine out of a simple CWE cooked with acetic anhydride and just "evaporated". Holy fuck, there's an abcess waiting to happen. Blood pH is a sensitive thing, not to be fucked with.

Oh yeah, Panthrax why don't you post 'em in two posts, or you can PM them to me and I'll see what I can do. I have no problem with the excess uploads if its good. You've come up with good guides in the past so I expect it would be good material.

In all actuality folks, making H from M could be taught as a first term organic lab to all the pre-meds without much problem, assuming one has what is needed and it's a hundred years ago and/or we live on my island and we're at robojunkie university of pharmacology and chemistry...yes one can dream...