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drugsaregood
05-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Yay for SWIM! Finally a 'decent' script! Granted it's not adderal or dexedrine but FUCK IT! I'm happy! So I actually have some questions on behalf of 'swim'...


She was originally going to write 90 10mg for 3x a day. She decided to go with 60 10mg instead, due to sleep and appetite issues. Later on SWIM can complain about the crash, and potentially get that upped, huh?

How long does it take to build a tolerance to methylphenidate under normal usage situations? Probably wait acouple months I'm thinking. They also have 5mg, right? Wish I got more than 10mg, but hey beats the fuck out of nothing...

How does Ritalin effect MDMA? On behalf of SWIM, of course. I've read about dopamine antagonists increasing the chances of seizures while on MDMA, but people do blow on it...

Chipper
05-31-2007, 02:38 AM
I like methylphenidate, it's a mellow stim indeed so it would mix well with MDMA. However, the MDMA effect is best when many stimulants aren't added into the mix.

drugsaregood
05-31-2007, 03:57 AM
Word, thanks for the reply.

psychotiKK
06-02-2007, 02:46 AM
I was first prescribed Concerta for ADD which helped a bit at first, but then it became complete crap. Same exact thing happened with Methylin ER. It worked fantastic for a while then it just kept getting worse and worse. Today I had an appointment with my psychiatrist and told him how I stopped taking my Methylin ER due to it making me feel shitty and having many negative side effects. He finally switched me to Adderall XR! I've been in a really good mood because Adderall works so much better for me than ritalin. I took my dose today (20mg) and felt happy, motivated, social, energetic, and yet the effects were smooth and let me down easy. Ritalin would work good for 2 hours than make me feel like shit for 6 more hours and make it hard for me to sleep hours upon hours after that even. Thumbs up for Adderall and Dextroamphetamine Sulfate (Dexedrine). I would prefer Dexedrine, but I got Adderall so I'm not complaining! Hope the Ritalin works out well for you..

soulninja
06-02-2007, 03:43 AM
Personally i dont like to mix anything with mdma,sometimes some booze but i enjoy the mdma high too much to fuck with it.

Dan Steely
06-02-2007, 10:17 AM
agreed. real mdma is easily muted by other drugs,including alcohol imo.

TappyTibbons
06-02-2007, 02:30 PM
so, I don't to steal your thread, but I also got a prescription for ADD the other day. I got adderall 15mg ir. Is that any good, and how should I use it? Any ideas or help? I hear its pretty good as far as ADD goes.

drugsaregood
06-03-2007, 01:32 AM
so, I don't to steal your thread, but I also got a prescription for ADD the other day. I got adderall 15mg ir. Is that any good, and how should I use it? Any ideas or help? I hear its pretty good as far as ADD goes.

Yeah, I would say it's pretty good as far as the abusable add med scale goes. It's right up there with dexedrine. Whats better is desoxyn...However, what you have is amphetamine w\ mixed salts and shit. It's speedy.

How to take it...You can chew it. Snort it. Do an isopropyl extraction and smoke it..(SWIM tried this with dexedrine and gave him some weird euphoria..)..

Enjoy your new meds. :D

Zoops
06-12-2007, 03:00 PM
I prefer methylphenidate in terms of the euphoria it produces, when used in decent doses (the actual prescribed dose does not do this to me, I mean taken orally, in doses no more than 20mg in one go - might as well do nothing). for me, I would liken methylphendiate to a synthetic form of cocaine. The molecule itself is rather like a "stripped down" sexier version of a cocaine molecule, albeit with some diss-similarites to cocaine. (the important one is that cocaine is NOT a phen-ethylamine, like methylhpenidate, amphetamine and pretty much every other stim.)

Methylphendiate I'd say provides (my kid is screaming for me to come and play Thomas the Train with him, so I'll make this quick!) a more intense feeling of euphoria when first sniffed, slammed (oh boy now THAT is something every drug addict should definitely try) or as has been the case with me the past couple weeks, chewed on like a real coca leaf (I'll explain) than coke does, definitely more so than amphetamine does.

That being said, dexedrine is definitely the bomb b/c it causes pretty intense euphoria, but lasts and lasts and lasts and lasts, unlike methylphenidate, which leaves like coke - will cause equally intense depression even suicidal thoughts on the comedown. As far a pure euphoria goes, I'd have to give a vote for ritalin, but as far as the total package goes, it would be dexedrine. Adderall made me feel kinda like being wired on some home made street meth or something. There's definiely a rush and it will jack you up but there's something there just don't feel clean. It's kinda dirty feeling. My guess is that it's becuase of the fact that adderall is a mix of straight up amphetamine and also dexedrine, which means that it contains some of the "L" isomer of amphetamine (the "straight up" amphetamine I'm talking about is just a 50/50 mixture of "L" and "d" amphetamine, while dexedrine is the pure form of the more potent "d" isomer)*.

If I had to pick between #100 dexedrine 15mg spansules or #100 ritalin 20mg IR tablets, I'd go with the dexies every time, but ritalin is pretty dern good.

Speaking of amphetamines, anyone ever do "Desoxyn," the brand name that methamphetamine (mfg. by "Abbot" pharmaceuticals, USA) is sold under Rx (in North America at least)? I had the opportunity to take it a few times while in school and it is everything you expect a super strong highly addictive stimulant to be, let me tell you. Comes in a extended release tablet called "gradumet" the largest dose ones are 15mg and those little fuckers are IMPOSSIBLE to crush, dissolve (even in boiling H2O) or otherwise "break down" so you can get the whole 15mg at once. So, best deal with desoxyn is the use the 5mg immediate-release tabs. I took six of 'em one time. It was early morning and I hadn't got out of bed yet. Took the six tablets (was probably all blotto from dope or some benzo or something because I couldn't sleep those days without 'em) and then laid back down, thinking that when it kicked in I'd just wake up. I was right, but when I woke up the rush was so intense I had to immediately run to the toilet and blow chunks ( I had that happen before when shooting up cocaine, too. I think it's from the dopamine overload your CNS gets with this type of drug). Almost didn't make it. Hah! After that I would only take FOUR tablets at a time. Anyone reading this: 20mg orally (for immediate release dosage, not timed release) of desoxyn is a pretty good-sized dose. Now, street methamphetamine, a.k.a., "crystal meth" and a thousand other names, is a 50/50 mixture of "d" and "L" enantiomer (i.e., "isomers"), so it's not quite as potent on a mg per mg basis as is the Rx stuff, which is 100% (d)-methamphetamine HCl.

*I have been using some of the new transdermal "patch" form of methylphenidate. You can look up on the 'net what brand name this shit is being sold under in USA right now, I don't want to put a "hit" on the internet for someone monitering internet reports of drug abuse. I want to do my part in keeping the reports of abuse of this new methylphenidate dosage form down and under the "watchers'" radar. Simply put, all you gotta do is pop one of these puppies in yo' mouf and chew on it like chewing gum. Builds up saliva and you just keep swishin' the juice around in your mouth for about an hour. Comes on in about 10-15min. and lasts for about as long as can be expected with methylphenidate, 1 or 2 hours. You can keep dosing and get the effects back, to a point, and you know when you've come to it. A LOT like cocaine in my opinion. I am sure somebody will figure out how to break this shit down and get it into a hype. I could but it ain't goin to be me. Been down the IV methylphenidate road before, FAR down the road and it does not end well.

**it ought to be noted that methylphenidate has two enantiomers also, one of which is more poten,t, just like the case with amphetamine. I am not sure which it is, but I have read that the transdermal dosage form (i.e., "patch") of methylphenidate delivers more of one isomer than the other, don't know which way it goes - more potent or less.


Well, needless to say, I am chewing on one of those patches right now. It's a used one, but just like with duragesic patches, most of the drug contained in the patch is still in there after it's used! I enjoy the small dose once daily that I am entitled to when the frau is on this patch. I just fish the thing out of the waste basket after she peels it off her hip and pop it in my mouth and start chewing. If only that one dose is taken, I find that coming down isn't bad at all, 'specially if I do it with a suboxone. Eureka! I don't wanna blow my brains out!

I'll shut up now.

drugsaregood
06-12-2007, 03:12 PM
I agree with the methylphenidate euphoria, I love it! Tolerance seems to build FAST however..

As for the daytrana, I was pondering the possibility of doing an isopropyl extraction on it. It's funny I was reading the PDF about daytrana and the abuse potential it said something to the effect of "Very expensive chemical process is required to extract the methylphenidate". I'm damn sure isopropyl would work.

Chipper
06-13-2007, 09:45 AM
I have IV'ed Ritalin and I agree. It is a very nice high but tolerance develops too quickly