The Taboo Topic of "Plugging Pills"

[limitless_euphoria]

Ok, I know this is not something people will readily discuss or talk about... but some of you have guts/balls on here, so wtf, here goes nothing...

For the prudes among us, we all know there's smoking, IV, IM, oral, intranasal and plugging means intrarectal.

Now, I've heard that the bioactivity of pills in tablet form actually is not that efficient. Let's say you take a 5/325 perc, your body only absorbs 60-70% of the content e.g. 3.3-3.5 mg of the oxycodone. Now, that same dose administered rectally through a syringe let's say... the bioactivity jumps up to >= 90%.

My question: is there truth to this? If one were to crush up a pill, suck it into a syringe, stick it where the sun don't shine and let 'er rip would you actually get more of a buzz than just swollowing the pill "as is" or what have you?

It would stand to reason that the membranes in that area might be better suited to absorbing more of the material especially if it's already dissolved in water. Maybe this only works well for certain pill types and not others???

I know curiosity killed the cat but what the heck, I could not think of a better place to ask this question!

[youwonhundred]

Yes, its true for some drugs. Morphine is an excellent example. Orally, if I remember right, bioavailability is 30% (correct me if I am off, it may be even lower) but rectal bioavailability is in the 90% range... I have tried it, and I get far more wasted off of 90mg plugged than I would get off double that amount taken PO. Actually since you made me think of it, I'm gonna go plug some.:p

note: my numbers may be off, but the basic premise is quite true.

[Rhonda]

Theres been lots of times that people talked about taking oxys this way. I dont know whats a taboo about it cause thats how suppostitories work.

So if you got oxys and someone tells you up yours, you can say thank you I will!:D

[KhaosPerformer]

I guess I'm willing to admit that I've done oxy this way. Dissolved it into a syringe, with out the point of course:) and shoved it up the ol' exit only. The high seemed kinda like a mix between sniffing and eating; it lasted a decent amount of time. The draw back was having to sit with my ass up in the air while it abosrbed. Fuck, I bet I looked like a complete moron. I only did it the once cause I beleive in doing everthing at least once. Well, there I said I didn't and you're welcome to laugh

EXIT ONLY!! NOT A THROUGH STREET!!
-K

[SHELLEY]

that would only work with pharmaceuticals not dope?

im asking not telling cause i dont like pills

[AWOL]

The husband emerged from the bathroom and was climbing into bed when his wife complained;



"I have a headache."



"Perfect," her husband said. "I was just in the bathroom powdering my dick with oxycontin. Would you like it orally or as a suppository, it's up to you?"

[limitless_euphoria]

Welp, I'll be honest... I have tried it w/ a 5 mg hydrocodone and a 5 mg oxycodone and it took 30-60 min to fully kick in... it is about the mid-point between P.O. and nasal but the staying power is great. It lasted almost 5-6 hours. When I eat pills (esp. the short acting 4-6 hour ones) they last me 3 hours and I'm back to square ONE. While I'm not exactly fond of the route it beats trying to do and redo a CWE (cold water extraction) or getting all that lousy APAP in your sinuses (which I've already have enough problems with from everything else I've put up there in the past).

Basically, it's an alternative worth considering if you're stuck with combo pills, you don't want to be bothered with a CWE and you'd like to spare the old schnazz the grief of the APAP and binders. It's nothing I'd turn into a daily ritual, that's for sure.

[AWOL]

Just an observation, but wouldn't death limit your euphoria?

[limitless_euphoria]

Just an observation, but wouldn't death limit your euphoria?

You've got a point there... But death from plugging??? :)

[AWOL]

I'm just messin with ya bro, newbie hazing. :drink:


But it's no different than any other method, you can always find yourself in a hot place with lots of pitchfork'd bastards pretty quick.

Best answer is check bio-avail first :p

[Woowoo]

"Plugging" is far from taboo. If a guy can't put socio-sexual hangups on hold when it comes to the subject of an opiate fix, he's not much of an opiate addict. I put my hang-ups on hold and gave it a try. I was a little disappointed, but when you live by the needle like I do that's understandable.

<d v 1 3 1 3> I have plans to manufacture and market OxyLube™, the Anal Lubricant for junky couples. The perfect way to get your addict girlfriend to give up the booty :D This could be the biggest drug since viagra. Bend over baby, time to take yer medicine :D

[AWOL]

"Plugging" is far from taboo. If a guy can't put socio-sexual hangups on hold when it comes to the subject of an opiate fix, he's not much of an opiate addict. I put my hang-ups on hold and gave it a try. I was a little disappointed, but when you live by the needle like I do that's understandable.

<d v 1 3 1 3> I have plans to manufacture and market OxyLube™, the Anal Lubricant for junky couples. The perfect way to get your addict girlfriend to give up the booty :D This could be the biggest drug since viagra. Bend over baby, time to take yer medicine :D Perfect !!!! But I see it more as a prophylactic.

[renton]

plugging only makes sense with the ones that dont absorb well in the stomach like morphine and heroin, maybe hydro and codeine too. But oxy works pretty good just by swallowing it.

[chorus_of_devils]

that would only work with pharmaceuticals not dope?

im asking not telling cause i dont like pills


It works with "street" dope too. I have heard of guys in jail do tar rectally when no other option was available.

As for Oxycontin I find the best way is to pull the plunger out the back of the tube and back load it. It's really easy if you cut a straw at a 45 degree angle and use it to scoop up the finely crushed powder and put it in the tube. Once you've got all the powder in re-insert the plunger and push it up, be careful to not compact the powder by pushing the plunger up too far. Un-cap the needle and draw up 2ml of warm/ hot water, not boiling hot but as hot as the tap will get. Re-cap needle and remove. Put your finger over the top and shake it well. Lay on your side insert as far as you're comfortable with and fire away.

I snorted 40-80mg at a time for 2-3 years and the first time I plugger I did 80mg and got a really good buzz w/a nod!
The bioavailability is similar to IM from what I've heard. The only way to get a higher bio is IV.
Asta COD

PS My main reason for plugging vs. PO is it hits much faster and to me it seems to hit harder. That might be in my head but, it is definitely faster.

[euphoria2002]

An ass full of heroin? Yeah just wait, junkies will be following each other around waiting for a lucky fart.

[euphoria2002]

But death from plugging??? :)

Death from above...? no wait, make that Death from Below!
:hangloose

[tui]

i don't get the point. wouldn't you lose the rush?

t

[seanjohno]

^ You do lose it unless you use a lot of H. Even then it takes a good 5-10 minutes at least (more like 15) before you'll feel it. I didnt do enough a couple times and felt nothing, unlike if I were to snort it, i would feel even a little. Maybe im missing something though, never did more than a 20.

[tui]

As my scars would tell you, i just wanted the rush. Don't care about just feeling ok. The thrill was the needle to the vein. (sadly)

[seanjohno]

It can be good though actually, it is VERY strong for like 2-3 hours if you do it right or enough.

Not the same as IV though. If you like the rush then even snorting is better, even though IV feels totally different from that too.

[tonyk]

Yeh, this is hardly a taboo subject, Euphoria. You weren't here yet but back towards the first of the year there was a really long & informative thread on this very topic! Maybe use your search & check it out. I don't know what I'm waiting for but I still haven't tried it.

[2HI2C]

One of the reasons I wanted to join Opiophile.org was to find alternative ways to use my meds to combat pain. I came across this (plugging/browning) and thought, "come on! are you serious?"

Well, over the weekend I did a 40mg brand OC, and there didn't seem to be any affect on me, so I quickly did another one...whew...about a hour later I was so messed up I could hardly see. I tried to post a thread saying that it absolutely works, but my fingers wouldn't work!

I pretty much snort most of mine, and parachute the rest, but I will be plugging some from time-to-time as well from now on. If you haven't tried it, GIVE IT A GO!!! :)

[djnarkotik]

i wonder how it is to plug a poppy pod extract?? anyone try it? maybe theres a better rush if the morphine hits a bit faster then oral i think i will do some experimenting

[AWOL]

i wonder how it is to plug a poppy pod extract?? anyone try it? maybe theres a better rush if the morphine hits a bit faster then oral i think i will do some experimenting Try the whole pod :D

[CSiiSEQ]

Basically, it's an alternative worth considering if you're stuck with combo pills, you don't want to be bothered with a CWE and you'd like to spare the old schnazz the grief of the APAP and binders. It's nothing I'd turn into a daily ritual, that's for sure.


You've got to be careful with this line of thinking. Just because it's not going through your stomach doesn't mean you can do unlimited amounts of acetaminophen. Even with pr admin, the drug will reach the blood stream and have to go through the liver, so you still have to pay attention to apap limits.

Which drugs will work the best will depend (mostly) on two factors. First, the drug itself. As mentioned some drugs have higher pr availability than po bioavailability. Secondly and a more minor factor is the inactives in the drug- they can also alter bioavailability; if it's a manufactured drug it can vary bioavailability by 20% from the "brand" drug- can be significant for some less so for others.**


**Note: that 20% is strictly bioavailability, the tolerance for amount of active ingredient is much more stringent.

[poonwhalla]

i wonder how it is to plug a poppy pod extract?? anyone try it? maybe theres a better rush if the morphine hits a bit faster then oral i think i will do some experimenting

Not a bad idea to try. Probably the best way would be to concentrate your shit to a small pile of goo. Unless you like the rush of sticking whole pods in your ass.

[AWOL]

Not a bad idea to try. Probably the best way would be to concentrate your shit to a small pile of goo. Unless you like the rush of sticking whole pods in your ass. Oh the irony.

Before it goes in, it's "your shit"

But when it comes out, it's just your shit.

[poonwhalla]

Oh the irony.

Before it goes in, it's "your shit"

But when it comes out, it's just your shit.

and that is just the SHIT.

Price of pods $50

assorted junk lets say $20-30

sticking it in you shit hole and having it come out as shit = priceless

[AWOL]

and that is just the SHIT.

Price of pods $50

assorted junk lets say $20-30

sticking it in you shit hole and having it come out as shit = priceless
Course you can always save it for a "second wash" .... you know, for when you're desperate.

[PoppyHeadStoner]

Hey im new to posting but have been looking at threads for a long time now, hope you guys are all gettin' your nod on. I was wondering when you crush up hydrocodone 5/500's and do a CWE would it mess up the extraction to use warm water (recommended for plugging). Would it be neccessary to use cold water and then heat it (just a little bit) after the extraction or could you just use warm water?

[reddragon3668]

This thread has been resurrected! Welcome PHS! Have fun and enjoy the board!

Now....

When I was on Kadian, I really had planned on plugging it. But, I couldn't find any literature to support the idea that morphine sulphate ER has a significant higher bio-availability via plugging vs. simply swallowing the damn things. Maybe I just wasn't looking at the right place, but I consider lying on my side/back for 20/30 minutes, sticking something up my ass, in hopes to get 10% more out of it, is a bit too cumbersome for me.

Of course, I understand, YMMV... and for those IV users with screwed veins, its a very good alternative. I am sure drugs vary here, but I was working with Kadian.

[Inspektahdek]

pish posh! The only taboo is on my shoe! I plug morphine sulphate when available, and MDMA, I have no stigma against it, I'm not gay, and I prelube the oral syringe so no pain, but there is gain! :D

[GoddessofRATs]

I don't think it's Taboo at all. I've talked about sticking pills up my butt many times on here LOL. I think most of us here are mature enough to discuss plugging. Sure we crack jokes about it but i think we handle it all good. It doesn't embarrass me at all to talk about it.

GOR

[Duckfeet]

Hell...taboo??...it became like a "cult" on here, where we hardly even *talk* to people who don't plug, and actually consider ourselves morally superior and somewhat spiritual *because* we plug!! I just signed up all over the RonPaul for president website, and where u get to write in a little bit about yourself, and your "hobbies..." well, I tried to show some restraint...but....

[reddragon3668]

HAHA! I'm so damn sleepy from this fent... but that woke me the hell up! I almost fell out of my chair... hobbies: swiming, computers, sticking gunk up my ass, motorcycles... HA! You just made my whole damn night! :D



Hell...taboo??...it became like a "cult" on here, where we hardly even *talk* to people who don't plug, and actually consider ourselves morally superior and somewhat spiritual *because* we plug!! I just signed up all over the RonPaul for president website, and where u get to write in a little bit about yourself, and your "hobbies..." well, I tried to show some restrain...but....

[Duckfeet]

Yeah: I'm sure they're going to want to use me as a poster boy for his campaign: I modestly said I was just your average dope plugger from Opiophile, and that I'm so happy to be in California where felons can vote :-) I expect they'll be contacting me soon LOL...

[limitless_euphoria]

Wow, holy crap this totally was in my newbie days... 200-some-odd posts later... :)

I'm not ashamed of it and, in fact, with a little coaxing and the right conversational setting—I find feeding friends benzos gets them to talk about just about anything, including this topic...

I've had a couple of them either admit to knowing of it or trying it (the craze for a while unbeknown to me was plugging MDMA pills). I just always make sure I'm sanitary when I do it and have my bottle of rubbing alcohol nearby and sanitize everything. Otherwise, fellow pluggers, keep on pluggin' away. :)

[chopstix]

Doh! Nevermind :)

[SurfRat]

Yeah: I'm sure they're going to want to use me as a poster boy for his campaign: I modestly said I was just your average dope plugger from Opiophile, and that I'm so happy to be in California where felons can vote :-) I expect they'll be contacting me soon LOL...



AHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!


That's fucking hilarious!!

[Inspektahdek]

Hell...taboo??...it became like a "cult" on here, where we hardly even *talk* to people who don't plug, and actually consider ourselves morally superior and somewhat spiritual *because* we plug!! I just signed up all over the RonPaul for president website, and where u get to write in a little bit about yourself, and your "hobbies..." well, I tried to show some restraint...but....



hahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha, that's hilarious, did you put sticking opiates in your ass? Do tell, give details, I would like to see his face and reaction if he happens to see that. HAHAHHAHAAHA LOL

[RxQueen]

Hey im new to posting but have been looking at threads for a long time now, hope you guys are all gettin' your nod on. I was wondering when you crush up hydrocodone 5/500's and do a CWE would it mess up the extraction to use warm water (recommended for plugging). Would it be neccessary to use cold water and then heat it (just a little bit) after the extraction or could you just use warm water?

hi there PHS, and welcome!

now since none of these other jokers have answered your valid question (j/k you guys... i'll never bash some good laughs at the expense of all our pluggin' asses. now BEND OVER! i got a little sump'n-sump'n for ya's! bwahahahahahahhh ;))....

the whole point of the CWE is that opiates are much more soluable in cold water than acetominophen is. so the cold water is actually neccesary for the extraction to remove as much APAP as possible. but after the solution is filtered, there's no reason that you couldn't bring it up to a more, shall we say, comfortable temperature. play safe & have fun!

[EleusisII]

You know what's kinda funny? Imagine how bad this looks to non-users...

I can just imagine it on a documentary or something: "Ron is 28, He's clean today, but two years ago, in the throes of an addiction to opiate painkillers, he would be so deperate to chase the elusive high, that he would shoot drugs UP HIS ASS!"

[Bishop]

No taboo here. Gotta do whatchu gotta do. Or should I say I gotta do what I gotta do. Gotta make sure the fingernails are cut and smooted, nothing worse than a scratched rectum.

[Duckfeet]

Yep, Bishop: yer gonna fit right in here...;-)



No taboo here. Gotta do whatchu gotta do. Or should I say I gotta do what I gotta do. Gotta make sure the fingernails are cut and smooted, nothing worse than a scratched rectum.

[reddragon3668]

You know what's kinda funny? Imagine how bad this looks to non-users...

I can just imagine it on a documentary or something: "Ron is 28, He's clean today, but two years ago, in the throes of an addiction to opiate painkillers, he would be so deperate to chase the elusive high, that he would shoot drugs UP HIS ASS!"

Yeah, I think it was U100 who made the point to me that its important to try and put thought and craft into posting, with an eye towards the idea that the world may one day face a calamity, with Opiophile being the only thing surviving for our posterity...

Can you imagine that... this thread being all that survived to tell future generations what we were like? HAHAHAHA!

Never mind me, I'm just killing time this morning!

[the morphine the better]

Check the search engine, a few months ago I posted my experience my first time plugging, it turned into one of the most notorious opiophile threads of all time.. haha, "princess getting a manicure"

I think the thread was "PLUGGED FOR MY FIRST TIME TODAY"


Ok, I know this is not something people will readily discuss or talk about... but some of you have guts/balls on here, so wtf, here goes nothing...

For the prudes among us, we all know there's smoking, IV, IM, oral, intranasal and plugging means intrarectal.

Now, I've heard that the bioactivity of pills in tablet form actually is not that efficient. Let's say you take a 5/325 perc, your body only absorbs 60-70% of the content e.g. 3.3-3.5 mg of the oxycodone. Now, that same dose administered rectally through a syringe let's say... the bioactivity jumps up to >= 90%.

My question: is there truth to this? If one were to crush up a pill, suck it into a syringe, stick it where the sun don't shine and let 'er rip would you actually get more of a buzz than just swollowing the pill "as is" or what have you?

It would stand to reason that the membranes in that area might be better suited to absorbing more of the material especially if it's already dissolved in water. Maybe this only works well for certain pill types and not others???

I know curiosity killed the cat but what the heck, I could not think of a better place to ask this question!

[irish]

I have done this with a cwe of percocets. As for the temperature, you are putting the solution up higher than the nerves inside your anus. If it is still cold you only feel it a bit. :o