Morphine 100s

[Consumed.]

I dont know much about these does anybody know if these only come in a time release, brands etc, any other general knowledge!

[Consumed.]

Sorry let me be more specific as a cant find an answer in the posts. I have a good tolerance I would say as far as this board goes. Because dope is varied in cut Ill use mgs of Oxys so we can all be on the same page. I snorty 160 mgs to get a nice buzz and up to 320 mg to get wrecked. So what I gather from the morphine posts If I was to chew up 200 mg of morphine I probably wouldnt feel shit? Is this the consensus?
A bit more detail also I stopped at about 200 mg of oxys five days ago and have been taking 4 mg of sub. I know this is a mixed post now but the bottom line is will I feel shit from 200 mgs morphine if I take it the next day (no sub on this day). Sorry if this is confusing..

[mrrice11]

i got an idea, how bout instead of starting a new thread you take the pill and answer your own dumb question

[Consumed.]

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[edarrin]

The answer to the OP question is : yes, you will feel shit.

Morphine is terrible orally. I think the 100's only come in time release. That is a largish dose in medical circles.

I have some IR's that I tried snorting. I think it is marginally better this way. I have a good bro who tells me to snort a few 100 mgs of the SR's and wash nose out with h2o drops between to clear nose and enhance absorption (water soluble) for good results. And he has a tolerance higher than yours. That is an option to try.

I've tried IV'ing 5 of the IR's 10mg and got a pins and needles rush but no real high afterwards.

I am interested in ways to improve morphine SR as that's what I'm getting from the pain management guy. That and 10 IR 10mg /month. No way I'll ever get Oxy's or anything from this guy as he is aware of my history. Long story but I have 2 docs. One who knows and one who doesn't;) . I've been getting Oxy's from the guy who doesn't but have told him I'm tapering off. Don't want to get caught. I'll still get perc's from him though.

[alowishus]

Stick it up your ass.

No, really. :D

[nick]

Stick it up your ass.

No, really. :D

You've been spending too much time with DV bro.

[alowishus]

You've been spending too much time with DV bro.

Are your gonna tell me that that BIG meter L O N G rock hard turd isn't pleasurable when it's all out of you and in the shiter.

[nick]

Are your gonna tell me that that BIG meter L O N G rock hard turd isn't pleasurable when it's all out of you and in the shiter.

Ummmm there's no answer to that.

[AGV10]

Consumed

To answer your question (side comments aside): some people prefer Oxy and somepeople prefer MST (Contin) 100mg - it's a horses for courses thing.

However the medical consensus (meaning doctors opinions) is that Oxy is more euphoric than MST (Contin) on a equi dose basis - in fact proberbly slightly more so: something around 80mg Oxy will be roughyl the same as MST 100mg chewed up. Also the Oxy will plasma peak a lot quicker than the MST (Contin), and by the same token, the euphoria will not last as long. So, although it is slightly "stronger" you may well land up taken more for the same given time period.

Summary: no striaght forward answer - its a case of "horses for courses"

AGV 10

[CSiiSEQ]

However the medical consensus (meaning doctors opinions) is that Oxy is more euphoric than MST (Contin) on a equi dose basis - in fact proberbly slightly more so:

The "medical consensus" would have no opinion on euphoria. It is not tested for or even evaluated during trials and drug testing. They would be concerned with length of time to onset/time to analgesic effect but that is completely different. If you had oxycodone and morphine in the identical formulation- same binders/excipients, they would have nearly identical times to analgesic effect. Neither one has to be metabolized to be active and therefore would only depend on route of administration and time to dissolution.

[AGV10]

Yes - im respect of a clinical setting you are right - the euphoric effect is a non-issue.

My reply though was not in that regard, but more so that the "consensus" amongst doctors is that abusers by and large report a "better" (for lack of a better word) feeling of euphoria when using Oxy versus MO (oral) in equi doses - and this has being documented, although as you rightly comment, from a clinical usage perspective it's not a criteria in deciding which is the better opiate.

Oxy abuse in California outstrips that of MST by a something like 200 - 300% (don't hold me to that figure please - but it is certainly in the hundreds of percent), and is "asked" for more so than MST by a similar amount. Why? Not because it's any better as a chronic pain killer, but because it makes the user "feel better" (meaning more euphoria as it's plasma peak is so much quicker than MST).

This is what I was meaning.

[Consumed.]

crazy days later ill get back to that post, thanks for answering even though it was after the fact. the reason i had asked is cause i had to buy 100 and i hadnt had anything to reference them to. so i didnt want to blow a alot of cash then find out i could eat 5 or 6 of em'. well that happened anyway, so now my vote as a hefty H and oxy lover... cant say morph 100 would be equal to an oc 80...

[TsarBomba]

Yes - im respect of a clinical setting you are right - the euphoric effect is a non-issue.

My reply though was not in that regard, but more so that the "consensus" amongst doctors is that abusers by and large report a "better" (for lack of a better word) feeling of euphoria when using Oxy versus MO (oral) in equi doses - and this has being documented, although as you rightly comment, from a clinical usage perspective it's not a criteria in deciding which is the better opiate.

Oxy abuse in California outstrips that of MST by a something like 200 - 300% (don't hold me to that figure please - but it is certainly in the hundreds of percent), and is "asked" for more so than MST by a similar amount. Why? Not because it's any better as a chronic pain killer, but because it makes the user "feel better" (meaning more euphoria as it's plasma peak is so much quicker than MST).

This is what I was meaning.

what a silly assertion.

documented? where? can you show us? I will bet you wouldn't be able to for the life of you.

I thought I already posted a study done on post-addicts, which makes it no secret that morphine is strongly preferred over oxycodone in a recreational way.

"In a study comparing the physiological and subjective effects of heroin and morphine administered intravenously in post-addicts, the post-addicts showed no preference for one or the other of these drugs when administered on a single injection basis. Equipotent doses of these drugs had quite comparable action time courses when administered intravenously, and on this basis there was no difference in their ability to produce feelings of "euphoria," ambition, nervousness, relaxation, drowsiness, or sleepiness.[20] Although the heroin abstinence syndrome was of shorter duration than that of morphine, the peak intensity was quite comparable for the two drugs. Data acquired during short-term addiction studies did not support the statement that tolerance develops more rapidly to heroin than to morphine. These findings have been discussed in relation to the physicochemical properties of heroin and morphine and the metabolism of heroin. When compared to other opioids -- hydromorphone, fentanyl, oxycodone, and meperidine, post-addicts showed a strong preference to heroin and morphine over the others, suggesting that heroin and morphine are more liable to abuse and addiction. Morphine and heroin were also much more likely to produce feelings of "euphoria", and other subjective effects when compared to most other opioid analgesics."

[sp33dballin]

i totally disagree... granted there is a rush when morphine is done iv.. but its barely what id call pleasureable... and the after effects are shit. orally.. morphine is a waste of time... same goes for putting it up your nose. but i dperfer oxycodone over morphine any day.. granted theyre both shit compared to h....but 320mg of oxycodone...holy shit.

[TsarBomba]

it's all in the eyes of the beholder, really. it's subjective. Ironically, i prefer oxycodone over morphine ORALLY - but that's because morphine has a low-bioavailbility (as do most potent narcotics - hydromorph, oxymorph, etc).

But when IV'ed, morphine blows oxy out the water, make no mistake about that.

Morphine has staying power, it lasts long. Oxycodone seems to come and go real quick. The same is true of hydromorphone - it has an incredible rush, but no staying power. forget about fentanyl.

i was just trying to see where this so-called "documentation" is. because truth be told, morphine has consistently trumped most other opioids in "documented" studies.

[nick]

i totally disagree... granted there is a rush when morphine is done iv.. but its barely what id call pleasureable... and the after effects are shit. orally.. morphine is a waste of time... same goes for putting it up your nose. but i dperfer oxycodone over morphine any day.. granted theyre both shit compared to h....but 320mg of oxycodone...holy shit.


Fucking peasant.


Sorry man,just joking.I've only tried percs(orally) and I was really unimpressed.Give me M anytime.

[StillChippin]

i got an idea, how bout instead of starting a new thread you take the pill and answer your own dumb question

Yea well you have a stupid fucking idea sir, sorry to react that way but i mean...what the fuck ya know, he didnt ask the questions cause he thought it would be dumb and some how offend you, there are soo many obvious reasons why he wouldnt answer the question himself. Stop being dick :mad:

[Consumed.]

Yea well you have a stupid fucking idea sir, sorry to react that way but i mean...what the fuck ya know, he didnt ask the questions cause he thought it would be dumb and some how offend you, there are soo many obvious reasons why he wouldnt answer the question himself. Stop being dick :mad:

yeah well that was the first time somebody made me feel like an asshole on this board. i didnt know everybody had to be in such a prone state of mind here. i mean shit i know addicts are all geniuses, and i know that this board isnt for any harm reduction information, and i know i probably could of just blew the money without asking anybody, silly me, dear what i am to do?

[edarrin]

Since I have been somewhat restricted to morphine SR (or other natural opiates-getting tested for metabolites) I have found that you can get buzzzed on them. I looked up the AUC for morhine SR (basically the activity measurement) and Cmax was about 3 hours after ingestion (oral).

They are a very slow come on high but once you acheive a buzz it can be maintained for a long time. they're actually not bad. Certainly no replacement for that H rush/nod but nice in a different way none the less. I have a friend who can supplement my Rx with 100mg MSContin. I have taken 390mg so far today. Should mention that I have also ingested 450mg of Lyrica as well which helps.

My tolerance is less than the OP though as I can get pretty whipped on 200mg Oxy. I find the high on Morphine much more sedating and lethargic than Oxy's though.