Changing Dihydrocodiene

[rebo]

I have asked this before ,but does anyone one know how to change dfii8 (dihydrocodiene )into something more enjoyable other than just crushing the tabs ,mixing with water and drinking.
These are quite strong just by doing that ,but are full of gunk obviously to stop abuse .
Is it possible to bang these once extracted through coffe filters.
Please someone help me here .
Also ,are there any people in New Zealand who would like to exchange knowledge in a symbiotic way????
With thanks to all opiophille brothers and sisters ,you rule!!!!:cool: :puterwork

[ontario_opiophile]

I'm not sure about that. But I am sure that I wouldnt shoot DHC's. I'm not really aware of DHC's cuz we don't have them in Canada? Are they available over the counter? If so, send me some. lol. We can get codeine over the counter but they mix it with caffeine and tylenol. the caffeine ruins it.

[oldschool?]

i woulden't bang anything that sat in the open air - that wet coffe filter is a bacteria trap in my opinon...but i know someone who would iv things like percs by filtering the crap out with an oral syringe with cotton in it

[rachamim18]

Would hydrocodone be satisfactory ?

[ontario_opiophile]

DHC and Hydrocodone are so similar that the effort wouldnt really be worth it. Hydrocodone is only a tiny bit more potent than DHC, but it is different, so it's probably more enjoyable.

[rebo]

Df118 and codeine have exactly the same moleculer structure ,but dhc is a synthetic. I have never had hydrocodeine ,but would never bang it!!!! ,is there not something I could take with it to accentuate the buzz.
I gave some to a mate of mine who got the itch under his nose(remind you of anything????).
I have been on them for a while and even when I lay off for a while they still don't affect me in the same way they used to. Also ,in the 40's doctors used to IV codeine ,even Hitler was on codeine plus god knows else what ,so why is it unsafe to bang it??
I have read all about the pulmonary odema you can get from it ,has anyone ever tried it though anyway??
My doc offered to put me on oxy contin but I think it's a trap to see how quick I would jump at the chance ,I pretended to not want them but will reneg in a months time so as not to make him suspicious ,they are already squeeling about the amount of codeine they give me so why would he offer me oxy's!!!! Anyone else see a trap or am I just being paranoid??

[rebo]

Just to clarify a point ,these are 60mg dhc tabs with nothing else but binders and they are slow release so they contain some kind of jelly like substance which binds in boiling water but not hot water.

[ontario_opiophile]

Why would your doctor offer to put you on Oxy's if he didnt actually want you to go on them? Why the hell would a doctor say oh yah we'll switch you to Oxy's and then say ohhh gotcha. you're a junkie i'm not giving you shit get out. lol. I say if the doctor is offering you Oxy's take them while he/she still remembers what they said or soon they wont even remember and you'll be the one requesting the Oxy's and it will be more awkward. I wish doctors could just sit you down and talk to you like you were an equal for one second and tell you your options for pain control and they would just let you choose what drug worked for you. I wish they would just be reasonable and not act like they are superior to you and recommend shit you dont even want. Oh well ,doctors will always be pompous asses.

I would just take the Oxy's but you're right, i wouldnt jump on it quickly i would wait a little as long as you knew the offer was still on the table, then you wouldnt seem desperate to get a fix or anything. I once faked that I was a heroin addict to get some pain control and now I can't get decent pain control because my record is tainted. Good luck with everything, i hope you get the amount that you need to control youre pain or to do whatever you need it to do. I hope you get the Oxy's or something stronger, you'll be better off on them I think, they are easier to function on i believe. Codeine is a really dirty buzz in my opinion, it's not very good for pain, it used to always make me feel like a trash bin. Peace :)

[hovadagod]

I wanted to start a thread on dihydrocodeine because it's been a long time. But when doing a search I found this thread. I believe that rebo's information is not accurate on several accounts. IV codeine? ISn't that deadly? And what about dihydrocodeine being sythetic codeine. If you've tried it, you'd know that it can't be true but I am not a chemist and want to see if this actually is BS.

What I wanted to know is whether people actually like this stuff. I've done it a long time ago and can't say if it would be effective at this stage in the game where I can use 2 cups of pod material/day. I mean...I don't do it every day or anything (subs) but still. Wanted to see what people think...

Sorry to those who hate when people bump old threads but I actually like this better than starting a duplicate type thread. JMO.

[Uncle Wiggly]

Hov, I'm not chemically literate. D you think you could give out better info that more folks will read if you start a new thread? If so, I'll kill this one and you can start fresh. I think more people will read a new one but you know more about chem than me soooo??

[nick]

Wiggles,I really don't see how Hov could start a thread with as much misinformation as this one.

[hovadagod]

I just want to set the record straight here. Someone please verify that A)Codeine is NOT the same molecular structure as Dihydrocodeine and B) you CAN'T IV codeine. People take the shit that they read here seriously and I believe IV'ing codeine is lethal while IM'ing it is ok. But IDK. Whatever. Even if nobody responds this should be enough of a deterrent.

I would guess that DIHYDROcodeine is codeine with 2 hyrogen molecules attached to it but again, I am not a chemist. And did crappy in HS chemistry at that.

[nick]

I just want to set the record straight here. Someone please verify that A)Codeine is NOT the same molecular structure as Dihydrocodeine and B) you CAN'T IV codeine. People take the shit that they read here seriously and I believe IV'ing codeine is lethal while IM'ing it is ok. But IDK. Whatever. Even if nobody responds this should be enough of a deterrent.

I would guess that DIHYDROcodeine is codeine with 2 hyrogen molecules attached to it but again, I am not a chemist. And did crappy in HS chemistry at that.

See Hov,you're pretty much right on both points.I don't know the chemical structure,but I do know that dihydrocodeine is about twice the strength of codeine and NEVER IV codeine.

[Uncle Wiggly]

I just want to set the record straight here. Someone please verify that A)Codeine is NOT the same molecular structure as Dihydrocodeine and B) you CAN'T IV codeine. People take the shit that they read here seriously and I believe IV'ing codeine is lethal while IM'ing it is ok. But IDK. Whatever. Even if nobody responds this should be enough of a deterrent.

I would guess that DIHYDROcodeine is codeine with 2 hyrogen molecules attached to it but again, I am not a chemist. And did crappy in HS chemistry at that.

Hov, I'm a gonna kill this here thread since those before you didn't get their shit straight. Why don't you start a new one so folks will at least know what you do.