anyone know how to get it out of juice?? please help!!

[oldschool?]

i've heard of it being done a few ways (like freezing, pouring it onto an electric frying pan,) but would like to hear from someone whos done it successfully before trying...

[jacky]

never heard a mention of seperation techniques for methadone.
Hiedi W claims to have IV'd methadone juice for a year with no observable side-effects, probably less of a concern than most types of tar heroin.
browning methadone juice probably works good.

unless you have taken basic chemistry classes I wouldnt even attempt it. probably some type of PH manipulation/solvent extraction technique is possible.

I have heard claims that IV methadone is not really a good rush. at least one person here at opiophile likes it though. IV methadone is actually prescribed in some US cities for addicts who refuse to use any other way. All of the clinics I have been to do not carry IV methadone.

[HeidiW]

I never broke it down chemically, I didn't give a shit. It would take about 100 mg per day for me to be nodding from it though. And I would feel something right after I shot it. Keep in mind though, I am a SICK JUNKY who will shoot anything I think could possibly give me a buzz. I am not proud of this fact, I'm just tired of lying to myself about what I really am.

[rebo]

I'm with you Heidi ,I even tried shooting chlorpromazine and mellerill(thiorazadine) ,nasty ,but I did it!!!!

[oldschool?]

[quote=jacky]claims to have IV'd methadone juice for a year with no observable side-effects

i saw side effects after a month but my juice is pink lemonade not tang as most get-and a sligt miss caused lumps that took longer to go away that any i've ever gotten from ms contin
it used to be in 20 ml doses half of which condensed hit me very much like h - also in the past i had access to more concentrated clear liquid stuff (50mg/ml) and i swear at the right dose it came on exactly like my experiences with west coast white h however the meth may taper off faster after the initeal rush any way to finish off i confessed what i'd been doing (damaging my self got stale i guess) and now my carries have five times as much juice so the only time i was a "sick enough junky" to try it anyway the pain far exceeded the rush (yes pink lemondade in the vein is BAD! even without missing chronic use led to pain at the 10ml/shot dose and i can't see tang being any better --do "you" (h.w.) condense your doses... is it tang?)
any way now the only time i can catch a buzz is if i "beat the pharmist" and manage not to drink one of my in house doses which is stll 20ml....so you can see how frusturated i am - i've got half a mind to get off this frikin program just so i can use something other than methadone (and get results!) if i keep fukin around like this for long i should tell my doc i need an i.v. program but i doubt she'd do it...so the saga continues - i am a semi experieced home chemist i just don't want to try anything unless i know it will work!! as an aside anone know why i can condese (with heat) my m in juice and still get results but when I condense a 10mg/ml clear solotion (i have access to) i get no restults - why does heating one seem to destroy or bind or make un-soluble the active ingreedient and the onther not??? i hypothisise maybe i could add somthing to the clear soloution to make it cookable????? i know synthetic dilaudid become less solouble when heated so figured maybe the clear meth acts the same way but then why doesn't the juice!!!
ok after typing this i made a long distance call and found out the process i need... but now i need methelyne chloride and sodium hydroxide. anyone know if i shoud be nervous about buying these at my local chem supplier? i was counseled not to settle for red devil lye as i don't know what the other 10% of the stuff is... i won't explain the whole process (unless someone else really wants to know i could post it in the chem. section rather than here) but those are the only two chems i need (plus muriatic acid to turn the stuff back into a salt) its a fairly simple process really - no heat required just a acid/base extraction

[rachamim18]

Jacky: Which American cities allow i.v. methadone for addicts? To my knowledge, the only formulation allowed by Federal regs is the oral. The UK however allows it.

[jacky]

I have heard mention from a few others about IV methadone in the US. the only person I know for sure that got methadone IV was a girl who is dead now, bless her heart, she bitched and complained and finally her case worker okd take home IV doses of methadone. this was in seattle washington over 6 years ago. I geuss they didnt like to do it, but for people who were considered high risk relapsers sometimes they would ok IV methadone. She ended up using heroin and methadone and was eventually kicked of the program and had to move back home to idaho, which has no methadone program. so she ended back up on smack, and overdosed. I was suprised to hear about the IV methadone. This girl was a pretty trustworthy soul so i tend to believe what she told me, but it is possible that rules may have been broken, and that she recieved medication that she wasnt supposed to..........

I wonder if the oral route is preferred by the clinics for their own purposes and for the health of patients, or if it is a standard law that the medication must be oral? I think this clinic that she went to also used methadone pills instead of suspension.

I went to a methadone clinic in san rafeal, considering your progress and attitude upon completion of the 30 day detox the doctor could supply you with meds for coming off of the methadone. I got klonopin, clonidine, and tegretol, that was a great kick, very smooth. I have been to a few methadone clinics and never heard of IV methadone being allowed, and heidi is the first person to share anexperience with shooting the "juice" that I have ever heard.

[SomniGod]

I have been to a few methadone clinics and never heard of IV methadone being allowed, and heidi is the first person to share anexperience with shooting the "juice" that I have ever heard.


Me too.... I have been on methadone maintenance 2x and was always told that half the reason for the liquid solution was that it was 'unshootable' and that doing so could result in severe pain and circulatory complications...possibly death. I'm a junky, but fuck dying!


~S~

[jcdpoop]

I never broke it down chemically, I didn't give a shit. It would take about 100 mg per day for me to be nodding from it though. And I would feel something right after I shot it. Keep in mind though, I am a SICK JUNKY who will shoot anything I think could possibly give me a buzz. I am not proud of this fact, I'm just tired of lying to myself about what I really am.

well atleast you can admit you are a junky like me. i just got out of a lovely 22 day stay of rehab. id shoot anything as well. id shoot my fentanyl patches (man do those burn) and any other opiate i was prescribed or could buy. i just got prescribed subutex and suboxone. and i used to be on 20 mg of methadone a day for about 6 months. and to any addict out there who is trying to stay clean, just think of it this way... it is a progressive and patient disease. when you relapse you start right back where you left off, if not further ahead. and in your best possible case scenario is to end up in a (another) rehab, and thats if you are lucky enough to get that chance. and herion addiction is the most complex disease out there, and it is indeed very patient. it may take you awhile to get to rock bottom, but you will get there. it is like throwing a frog into a bowling pot of water and slowly turning up the temperature. it wont die right away, it will accimate to its surroundings and die a slow and tortoreous death. and switching your addiction from heroin to lets say cocaine is like switching seats on the titantic... you're still goin down.

[lolleedee]

"I wonder if the oral route is preferred by the clinics for their own purposes and for the health of patients, or if it is a standard law that the medication must be oral? I think this clinic that she went to also used methadone pills instead of suspension."quote
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According to my clinic (New Jersey) the oral route is preferred (and especially the liquid oral route) because plain and simple, it is waaay cheaper for the clinic! I guess it is always about the all mighty dollar!

[Tar_Baby]

Actually methadone is best absorbed orally..theres no rush therefore no point in injection.

[oldschool?]

no rush therefore no point in injection.
i dissagree, past a certian dose there is most deffinately a potentially very strong rush

[mmnyc9]

Hospitals have meth in multi does vials you could even drink the IV stuff, as a matter of fact some RN made a mistake on calculating mls to mgs and gave 8 instead of 80mg:mad: a few ears back. As far as converting biscuits or pills to iv first time I heard it was done was here. I think drinking it in the way its given is best, sometimes it takes a couple of days at a higer dose to get a buzz.