Create Morphine

[vern]

Does anyone have a set of instructions for creating Morphine from Opium.

[jacky]

there are many recipes on the internet, or try "oxy" by otto snow. rachamin 18 seems to know alot about specific chemistry etc.
doing it the right way is complicated if you are not a chemist, and it is possible that opium is a stronger product in its natural state than extracted pure morphine.it would probably be easier for the clandestined chemist to create heroin out of codeine than to extract and purify morphine for the same conversion, but I dont really know, I am not a chemist.

bluelight.com has some good chemistry info on opiates as well. plus they have some regular chemist types that usually answer questions, up to a point. if you are not versed in chemistry though they will probably cut you off.

anyway there are many places to get the information, this is standard study for organic chemists, even if they never plan to touch the material they need to learn the process, so you can find alot of information in textbooks and college librarys.

[HeidiW]

I majored in college chemistry. Let me tell you, the chemistry library will have all the answers to your questions. Happy searching, be safe!:cheeky1:

[rachamim18]

To be honest, all anyone need do is obtain some ammonia and calcium. You will not have a very pure product but you will have morphine. There are ways where you can optimise your conversion but you ahould start with the basics.


Jacky: No, it is not easier to convert it from codeine. And no, opium is not stronger than morphine. Opium has 40 discernible alklaoids but most of them are either not psychoactive or availabe in only trace amounts. Alot has been said about the synergystic appeal of all these alklaiids but i do not buy into it. Morphine is always the chief constituient [save for the Norman variety] in Somiferum. It is at present in much higher percentages than the others.

As for the author of this thread, there was a post, by Heidi, on this ite that offered the DEA blueprint for heroin production [based on the SE Asian model] and it contains most of the info you are looking for. the paper lacks alot of relevant info, such as quantities, which I took the time to add...but as stated, start at the begnning.

[paesan]

I've never been able to get anywhere near as high from anything else as I do from pods, even h. Granted I've never done huge quantities of H all at once but I have consumed huge quantities of morph, oxy, hydro, fentanyl, carfentanil, etc... I swear I've been so fucking jamned off of pods that I started hallucinating, seriously...

[SomniGod]

yeah... a nice cuppa will blow your mind far longer and much harder than most opiates. That is a truth.

~S~

[rachamim18]

I REALLY have to disagree there but it is subjective of course. Listen, it comes down to common sense, subjectivity aside. Pods contain opium. Opium has only a 25% alkaloidal constitution at best [and that is rare]. Of that 25%, only 3 or wort noting. Of those 3, the alkaloid most responsible is of course morphine. In all varieties, save Norman of course, morphine is no more than 17% of the total alkaloidal constitution. Even then, that is VERY rare. Most often, opium has only 8 to 10% morphine content. Do the math. Pods have little on even moderate opiates and opipiods...to say nothing of heroin which is 3 times as efficient at crossing the blood to brain barrier than morphine!

[paesan]

Like I said I've never done a huge quantity of H at once so I'm not sure. The most I've done in a night was a little shy of a 1/2 gram of tar and the same with powder on another occasion. Yes I was nodding for hours but I was not in such an opiated state that that it became difficult to discern reality and lucid dreams, and I also wasn't like that for close to 24hrs, which is what pods have done on multiple occasions. May be I got to get my hands on a quantity of H and see what I can do.

[GMorris]

Of all the opiates/opiods that exist, I've tried almost all. Llevorphanol is one that I've always wanted to try but have never been able to obtain, with pure opium as a close second. No matter who I knew or asked, nobody I've encountered was ever able to obtain pure opium, so I've always wondered if I'm missing something good. I've had hashish that had opium in it, but there's no easy way to separate the two, so even eating a bunch of it I got so blasted from the hash that I could barely feel the opium content. The closest I could get was either Paregoric, and the camphor in that stuff pretty much kills the desire to take enough for a decent buzz, or OTC diarrhea treatments. One was Parepectolin, and it would get me a little buzzy if I drank a whole bottle, but the constipation and white turds for days kinda turned me off, if you know what I mean! There's just not enough opium in there to make it worthwhile.

All things considered, I'm a Morphine person. Of all the opiates I've tried (except H), Morphine is the best hands down, at least for me.

[JoyDivision]

rachamim18,
You forgot Thebaine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thebaine
Which is also in Opium and is what oxycodone, oxymorphone, nalbuphine, naloxone, naltrexone, and buprenorphine are all made from. While information on human consumption is somewhat non-existant it's shown to have high activity in animals. And I'd say many people who use seed tea and pods have experienced it's effects. My guess is that it's the combination of codeine, morphine and thebaine which make pods and seed tea so special ;-).

[duke_nemmerle]

Just to throw in my .02 on the off-topic portion of this thread. Of all the opiates I've tried(not H, but most pharms) Fentanyl gave me the best buzz followed closely by pod tea

[hovadagod]

I've done T and thought I was at the convenient store sitting in a car while watching TV. Then I told my friend "let's go...we're here" thinking we had arrived at the store. My own voice snapped me out of it and I realized that there's no TV in the car and we were not in a car. WE were sitting on a couch watching TV. I've done upwards of 240Oxy in a night and never was so F'ed up. Those were ovalies FYI.

[superman]

jacky:"it would probably be easier for the clandestined chemist to create heroin out of codeine than to extract and purify morphine for the same conversion"

definately it's easier to start with pure compounds such as codiene or better yet morphine, provided you have the required reagents.
"Jacky: No, it is not easier to convert it from codeine." I haven't a clue why you'd think it's easier to extract from plants.... maybe you misread what jacky was suggesting(or maybe i did for that matter)
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rachamim18: "To be honest, all anyone need do is obtain some ammonia and calcium. You will not have a very pure product but you will have morphine. There are ways where you can optimise your conversion but you ahould start with the basics."

I assume you're talking about extracting morphine from straw. in which case calcium is not used. ammonia can be however i would rather use a solid base, a hydroxide specifically.
Anyways, you defiantely need a lot more than what you said, you need at least:
a strong base
HCl
narrow range ph strips
some non-polar solvents
some alcohols for recrystallizing
glassware is needed too, unless you want to be ghetto and cause yourself lots of trouble.

if you're gonna isolate the morphine, you should also isolate the codiene and thebaine. no point in going through all this work only to throw away two valuable compounds.