Question please respond fast

[jwalm]

i'm new to IVing-i have been Iving endo hydromorphones

always new clean needles, i clean the injection site, crush pills very good, add to spoon, add water, mix, cook till it boils for a bit

then i inject in vein and pullback a 'lil to see the red blood in syringe to know i am in vein, then i inject

now my question is...(im kind of freaking out right now) there is a bump at the injection site-is this any thing to be worried about?

now the bump does not hurt one bit (i just injected minutes ago)

keep in mind i have very sensitive skin-i can just scratch my skin with fingernail and my skin will welt with red marks

Now i definetly got a rush (still feeling it) do you think the bump at the injection site is just from my very sensitive skin?

and if one were to really miss a shot does the bump hurt?

[youwonhundred]

i'm new to IVing-i have been Iving endo hydromorphones

always new clean needles, i clean the injection site, crush pills very good, add to spoon, add water, mix, cook till it boils for a bit

then i inject in vein and pullback a 'lil to see the red blood in syringe to know i am in vein, then i inject

know my question is...(im kind of freaking out right now) there is a bump at the injection site-is this any thing to be worried about?

now the bump does not hurt one bit (i just injected minutes ago)

keep in mind i have very sensitive skin-i can just scratch my skin with fingernail and my skin will welt with red marks

Now i definetly got a rush (still feeling it) do you think the bump at the injection site is just from my very sensitive skin?

and if one were to really miss a shot does the bump hurt?

Chances are, its a slight reaction at the injection site. I get that when shooting dilaudid. Also possible, since I am assuming you didn't miss the shot (right?) is that you missed a small amount, the needle moved, or something of the sort. If it becomes hot, extremely red or painful over the next few hours, that would be indicative of a problem, but as you say, you have sensitive skin, so it is most likely nothing. My advice, and take it for what its worth, is to just keep an eye on it. Should resolve over the next couple hrs or so. Only if it doesn't, do you have anything to worry about.

[Somanax]

Histamine reaction no more no less try benadryl



SOMANAX

[jwalm]

ahhh sweet, the bump has basically totally disappeared by now-

the bump was exactly like what happens to my skin when it gets scratched or irritated:)

also, what is the typical amount of water one would use to inject two 4mg endo dillies in one shot?

[SuperJunky]

I think everyone gets a little red bump some times, even when a shot goes exactly as it should. I find I get them more often w/ new rigs than slightly dull ones, or if I go for a vein I don't use all that often i.e. the skin is tender and lacks calases.

As for the amount of water it's best to dilute it as best as possible, I've gotten a couple 4's into a 1/2cc, if you've got bigger rigs dilute it more...

[Woowoo]

I ran into some of those Endo hydromorphs last night and I too got a little bump. I mean a little bump -- it looks like a mosquito bite. I wasn't worried in the least because experience told me that it would be gone in an hour or so, and sure enough, it was.

It might be something with the pills themselves, some ingrediants that makes our skin break out a little. Anyhow that's the least of our worries. ;-)

Peace and have fun
Woowoo

[Greendaze]

I had that happen to me the first and only time to shoot Dilaudid. I was scared as shit, but like with you, it didn't hurt any at all.

What I know is that it took about a day and a half for the bump to go away, and then I was left with a rather large but pale bruise. No serious problems at all.

If our situations are similar, then you should have nothing to worry about.:o


Oh, by the way, my bump was the size of a half dollar coin!

[SuperJunky]

I had that happen to me the first and only time to shoot Dilaudid. I was scared as shit, but like with you, it didn't hurt any at all.

What I know is that it took about a day and a half for the bump to go away, and then I was left with a rather large but pale bruise. No serious problems at all.

If our situations are similar, then you should have nothing to worry about.:o


Oh, by the way, my bump was the size of a half dollar coin!

A bump that big and that takes that long to go down had to be a missed shot, which can be a problem (more so w/ pharms than street dope in my experience), what I was refering to was more of what woowoo was refering to, a masquito bite looking thing.

[candy]

i'm new to IVing-i have been Iving endo hydromorphones

always new clean needles, i clean the injection site, crush pills very good, add to spoon, add water, mix, cook till it boils for a bit

then i inject in vein and pullback a 'lil to see the red blood in syringe to know i am in vein, then i inject

now my question is...(im kind of freaking out right now) there is a bump at the injection site-is this any thing to be worried about?

now the bump does not hurt one bit (i just injected minutes ago)

keep in mind i have very sensitive skin-i can just scratch my skin with fingernail and my skin will welt with red marks

Now i definetly got a rush (still feeling it) do you think the bump at the injection site is just from my very sensitive skin?

and if one were to really miss a shot does the bump hurt?

jwalm....You got some great answers from experienced opiophiles. I did not read every response, but #1-Injecting pills is dangerous. Why? The small particles, regardless of how finely chopped they are can lodge in the very small capillaries in the lungs and cause breathing problems, long term scarring and respiratory ailments, not to mention abscesses.
You lose a lot in the process of trying to make them injectable(can someone add to this?)
I understand that after a while you lose the euphoria you once looked forward to, but I really advice the injection of pills. Even in an IM form!

The reaction you get at the site is a histamine reaction and normal. Nothing an anti-inflammatory and Benadryl won't cure. But, be careful....Benadryl can cause respiratory depression at higher doses, so start small with 25mg(which is usually how they are packaged per capsule) and if that is not enough, 50mg is quite efficient. Do not take any more than 50 mg, especially on top of opiates.

I hate to deflate your bubble, but oral doses of opiates in pill form is the best and safest way to go and if you want to see your veins go bad quick, injecting pills will do it! They are just not meant to be injected.

Remember, these are only suggestions from myself and others who share experience and try to pass that on. We are not responsible for what you decide to do. We only try to provide you with techniques and education aimed at reducing your risk.

We are a pretty smart bunch here and I urge you to think about just taking your meds orally!

Thanks for reading through. Wouldn't do it, if I didn't care!

Be well

[jwalm]

i get that histamine reaction every time in inject

at first i was using 25 gauge needles and the histamine bump would be huge, but now that i have 27 gauge the histamine bump does not get so big

what gauge needles do yall usually use to IV?

[Chemical_Boy]

Could be a missed shot. Even if you registered at first, if you shook or moved at all toward the end you could have just moved the needle out.
It doesn't take much solution (ml) to make a bump.

[chemboy7]

Sorry if this has already been brought up, as I have not read all the repies, but did you remove the tourniqute immediately before you started shooting it in? It's not uncommon for alittle blood to squirt out of the vein and under the skin causing a bump. Happens sometimes to me even when the tourniquite is removed, just blood forcing it's way out after the needle is removed. Could have also been a histamine reaction for sure. Alot of times when I am shooting Morphine the injection site (and occasionally my back, chest, and face) get flushed and bumpy... seems to go away rather fast though. As Somanax said alittle Diphenhydramine half hour before tying off should not only stop that but also potentiate your shot.

[candy]

Great question chem! I imagine it would be harder to push if the tourniquet was on, but ya never know!

But, I would guess more of a histamine reaction at the site which causes inflammation and this process is quite quick.

If your not sure if your still in the vein, pull back the plunger and see if you get the flash of blood, if so, inject slowly to avoid blowing the vein.

It can be that when you pull the needle out, if the needle is dull or has a ragged edge, it can blow the vein.

But, I am going to go with histamine reaction.

You got to treat those veins well. Veins are thinner than arteries and less elastic or flexible, which increases the risk of scarring and collapsing. It also causes them to blow more easily.

Always remember that when you go to inject the beveled side is up and not down facing the skin as this will also cause a blown vein.
And if your in the vein and 99% your in, but get no blood back, try pulling back just slightly or change the position of your arm and you may get a flash of blood. It could work and you don't blow another.
vein.

You have to remember that your sticking a hard needle into a flexible structure. Take your time and try to use a new needle if you can each time to reduce scarring. As I have said before many times, I know it is not always an option, but.......A dull needle will scar veins really quick!