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drugsaregood
04-24-2007, 05:09 PM
How does one tell if they have 'real cid? Body high along with visuals? Anything appearance\taste wise that can help? Thanks.....
jonny-5
04-24-2007, 05:15 PM
you will know if its real by taking it. last week i had a tab that was tastless and what not and it was really good stuff. cheap too. the only way you can really tell is by eating it (im sure if you are a chemist with access to a laboratory you could find out another way but im not and i dont.)
bronyraur
04-24-2007, 05:21 PM
Like Johnny said, you're only gonna know if it's good by eating it.
So eat away!
Well, not too much, we don't want you thinking you can fly and whatnot. Don't need anyone jumping out of windows and shit.
Diacetyl
04-24-2007, 05:26 PM
Yeah you can tell by taking it, on average 2 hits of good lsd will get you tripping pretty hard.
JayTrizzle
04-24-2007, 05:29 PM
I've had shit that tasted like asshole and was good and the best i've had (which I'm assuming the less taste the better) had no taste at all. As for body high, not really, you'll feel a little amped up, but it ain't like the body high from mushrooms. You should be strong on the visuals if it's good. That's the key difference in mushrooms as compared to acid. A lot of mushrooms = Odd visuals and strong wierded out body high, where as good acid = almost no body feeling, and stron distinct craziness in your brain for 8+ hours. So there ya go. Also, if you happen to know the name of the particular acid you got, that might help as I've taken a few different kinds and could tell you by association. What does it look like, and does it have any designs on it at all?
Diacetyl
04-24-2007, 05:34 PM
I've had shit that tasted like asshole and was good and the best i've had (which I'm assuming the less taste the better) had no taste at all. As for body high, not really, you'll feel a little amped up, but it ain't like the body high from mushrooms. You should be strong on the visuals if it's good. That's the key difference in mushrooms as compared to acid. A lot of mushrooms = Odd visuals and strong wierded out body high, where as good acid = almost no body feeling, and stron distinct craziness in your brain for 8+ hours. So there ya go. Also, if you happen to know the name of the particular acid you got, that might help as I've taken a few different kinds and could tell you by association. What does it look like, and does it have any designs on it at all?
I get body effects when I take acid. I get "electric chills" go through my body when im on acid... on the comeup of acid I always get this weird energy feeling in my legs.
JayTrizzle
04-24-2007, 05:40 PM
well yeah, the amped up feeling i was talking about. Other than that, you shouldn't be feeling like super body stoned, maybe a floaty feeling, and the wierdness that comes with all hallucinatory drugs.
AceBeans
04-24-2007, 07:02 PM
When I take acid I can't stop laughing about shit for some reason. I think acid has a pretty strong body buzz a long with the visuals.
euphoria2002
04-24-2007, 07:16 PM
LSD or psilocybin are both on my "hit list". But oh, where does one get some? (not a solicitation btw).
Seriously, I enjoyed the trippy feeling from my pot experiments. So much so, that I've really been diverted away from opiates lately. The psychedelic effect makes for a much more entertaining experience.
How about side effects? It seems like everything gives you a dry mouth. 3 hours into a pot session and my mouth feels like oven dried sandpaper. That's about the only drawback though.
I know a guy who might be able to obtain some shrooms for me, seems like a good way to start. They don't have anyone selling those on ebay do they?
Dan Steely
04-24-2007, 07:49 PM
go easy on shrooms when you 1st try em.(like 1 g.) careful when mixing w a lot of weed. me and a few of my friends have kinda passed out(fell down) on em back when we were 20ish. none of us ever had any trouble w/paper though.
drugsaregood
04-24-2007, 08:37 PM
go easy on shrooms when you 1st try em.(like 1 g.) careful when mixing w a lot of weed. me and a few of my friends have kinda passed out(fell down) on em back when we were 20ish. none of us ever had any trouble w/paper though.
Yeah. That's what I did. Started out with a really low dose, to gauge the effects and make sure I could handle it. I've never had a massive dose of shrooms, but I would welcome it. Awesome stuff, and it seems very clean..
As for obtaining them. If your in a country where it's legal to grow them, you can buy kits, or just go online in general and get spores and shit...(www.shroomery.org) ...Cool stuff. FUNGI RULES.
AceBeans
04-24-2007, 08:45 PM
LSD or psilocybin are both on my "hit list". But oh, where does one get some? (not a solicitation btw).
Seriously, I enjoyed the trippy feeling from my pot experiments. So much so, that I've really been diverted away from opiates lately. The psychedelic effect makes for a much more entertaining experience.
How about side effects? It seems like everything gives you a dry mouth. 3 hours into a pot session and my mouth feels like oven dried sandpaper. That's about the only drawback though.
I know a guy who might be able to obtain some shrooms for me, seems like a good way to start. They don't have anyone selling those on ebay do they?
Shrooms are pretty easy to grow. Also fairly easy to find in the wild if you know what you are doing. Lots of good shroom forums around if you are interested in finding some in the wild.
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 08:49 PM
How does one tell if they have 'real cid? Body high along with visuals? Anything appearance\taste wise that can help? Thanks.....
As far as telling if its real, you already got that advice but as for your other questions on effects it really depends on what type you have. They all act differently a little, for instance the paper squares for me give the best visuals usually but don't give quite as good a body high feel; as far as the gel tabs go they usually give a great body high and some visual effects but not strong visuals unless you are taking extremely high doses; and as far as liquid (my personal favorite) for me is kind of the best of both worlds, good body high as well as some good visuals (all depends on your dosage as well, and it can vary on how many people have touched it).
Also there are many different types of liquid acid, sometimes they may tell you the name (don't always trust them on the names, they can say whatever) but I had a good straight guy a while back and he was always on about the name or brand of what he had and there was a definite difference between each...What he always said was "white fluff" was my favorite, it had a nice clean body high with great visuals as well...oh, also I've seen micro dots (little pills) but haven't seen them for years, they may be in your parts though ask around...
So about that...Which type do you have and what color is it if it is a gel tab??? Fill us in as well if you've taken it...how do you feel???
JayTrizzle
04-24-2007, 09:07 PM
the "white fluff" is actually Family Fluff, and yeah, holy fuck man, that shit is fucking insane. As far as finding acid, the best place to get it if you aren't in the know, is to go to a large music festival, and go through shakedown street. You'll find whatever you want within 15 minutes. But yeah if you come across "white fluff" or "family fluff" (same thing) YOU WANT THAT, lol.
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 09:08 PM
Well you can be pretty much certain its not LSD if the blotters are bigger than 1cm. Pure LSD is colorless and odorless. Taste it when you eat it, it shouldn't have a taste. It also glows under a black light, but i think most substances that are used to imitate do also. If it really is good cid, you will be gone off 1 tab. Make sure you wait at least an hour before dosing up. LSD has a magic about it that the imitations don't have. It has no body load, the visuals are very bright with tracers/trails, and you will see amazing patterns.
I really hope you get the real thing, cause i hate the idea of people being sold DOx or 5-meo-amt as lsd and getting turned off, because lsd really is an amazing thing. I recommend shrooms equally if you have not tried them, they have a certain magic feeling about them too, but in their own different, more natural and organic way.
If this is your first time with hallucinogens, be sure to have someone sober with you, and read up about set and setting. They aint a pleasure drug, you need to create the pleasure.
LOL first time i had cid i ate 4 tabs, thought it must have been weak shit. Them BAM. I am one with everything and understand anything and everything. Luckily i was already experienced with shrooms, or it coulda been a tad more difficult :)
JayTrizzle
04-24-2007, 09:20 PM
Yeah, lol. Honestly you should be off your face with 1 hit if it's really good. First time I got good clean LSD (not the first time I've done "acid" but the first time I got real, for sure, clean ass LSD), I got it from some homeless guy wondering around the entrance in the giant traffic HELL on the first day of Wakarusa last year. I gave him twenty bucks and he gave me (what I know now to be) like A FUCKING TEN STRIP ROFL. The guy that I was with doesn't do drugs at all, but wanted to try acid, that night I got too drunk and wasn't down, so I gave him his half of the "two" hits, and I didn't see again for like 14 hours rofl. He ended up at seeing the Disco Biscuits like 1 1/2hours after dosing, and then he just kind of wondered around the woods for like 10 hours rofl. When i dropped I only took half of my half, and I was so ate up everything was so wonderful, I dosed right in between Buckethead and Les Claypool, and half way through Claypool HAD to go wandering because the amount of people and the show itself were just too much. I tripped all night long, and can only imagine what my friend must have felt like lol. Mushrooms, take 2g your first time man. I've eaten four different strains of P. Cubensis, all grown by me, and only one of them ever made me so tired I could have actually slept. Shrooms will deffinetly WIERD YOU THE FUCK OUT a lot more than clean acid will though.
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 09:32 PM
Well you can be pretty much certain its not LSD if the blotters are bigger than 1cm. Pure LSD is colorless and odorless. Taste it when you eat it, it shouldn't have a taste. It also glows under a black light, but i think most substances that are used to imitate do also. If it really is good cid, you will be gone off 1 tab. Make sure you wait at least an hour before dosing up. LSD has a magic about it that the imitations don't have. It has no body load, the visuals are very bright with tracers/trails, and you will see amazing patterns.
I really hope you get the real thing, cause i hate the idea of people being sold DOx or 5-meo-amt as lsd and getting turned off, because lsd really is an amazing thing. I recommend shrooms equally if you have not tried them, they have a certain magic feeling about them too, but in their own different, more natural and organic way.
If this is your first time with hallucinogens, be sure to have someone sober with you, and read up about set and setting. They aint a pleasure drug, you need to create the pleasure.
LOL first time i had cid i ate 4 tabs, thought it must have been weak shit. Them BAM. I am one with everything and understand anything and everything. Luckily i was already experienced with shrooms, or it coulda been a tad more difficult :)
Yea my first time was pretty amazing like that. I was used to smoking or taking pills so after like 45 minutes I thought it was fake or something but in just over an hour it hit, not really all at once, I think I started feeling weird after the 45 minutes, can't explain it I guess, just felt like something was gonna happen; I was either about to get real sick or it was kickin in. And it hit good, but the better times are when you have higher doses and you actually get some real visuals, not just stuff moving a little or trails on anything that does move, but a few times I actually saw things melting, Literally...
I remember the first time everything melted, I was at a rave in ATL and was candy flippin (acid & E) and every thing was great, feeling good and it was the best rave (still today) I've been to (I mean the place not that time). The place was always full of E so everyone loved each other in there always, different vibe than most; anyways I was out on the balcony outside looking at the city lights through the fence posts (I was sitting on the floor) when all of a sudden every thing I was looking at was melting, the city, I turned to my friend and his face was nothing (like hot candle wax but everything)...It only lasted a short bit and afterward was the coolest thing that had ever happened and other times after that was awesome; but that first time (just for a few seconds) I thought I had too much and went blind or something cause I couldn't see at all, not clearly at least...
Real cid is cool to do, but check out the different types...personally I didn't care as much for blotter paper or whatever, but loved the liquid, and gel tabs were usually good as well...
If you don't know where to find, go to the main city in your area on Friday or Saturday night around midnight (or better yet ask around) but find you a rave...every party drug will be there especially cid and E, shrooms and K sometimes and occasionally maybe some Ice...but without a doubt acid will be there...Probably in every form...just go in and have fun, it will come to you...
Diacetyl
04-24-2007, 09:42 PM
This thread brings back memories,
and makes me crave acid.
*writes acid on to-do list*
Skript
04-24-2007, 09:50 PM
Acid has fucked my head up for good...
I think it made me crazy.. or am I confused??
Blotter was either good or bunk.. Now gel tabs on the other hand were the shit...
I would get real noid and think people were out to get me... Wasnt fun a few times.
or laugh for hours till my mouth hurt..
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 09:51 PM
This thread brings back memories,
and makes me crave acid.
*writes acid on to-do list*
Same here man, I'm pullin all this from a while back...I haven't had any in at least 5 years...
Skript
04-24-2007, 09:57 PM
Same here man, I'm pullin all this from a while back...I haven't had any in at least 5 years...
Same here as well.. back in the mid to late 90s acid was everywhere around here for years.. Then poof it was gone.. Only shrooms once in a while..
Definately a time of my life ill never forget..
drugsaregood
04-24-2007, 09:59 PM
I've came across it twice, both times looked to be legit yet yielded no effects. I have a realiable dude i've known for acouple years, and he says he can come across some at a good price...It'll probably be blotters but I'll ask of course.
I'm just wondering if its going to be some RC or some other chem. Dunno. At the price though, can't hurt to get acouple to try out first...
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 09:59 PM
Acid has fucked my head up for good...
I think it made me crazy.. or am I confused??
Blotter was either good or bunk.. Now gel tabs on the other hand were the shit...
I would get real noid and think people were out to get me... Wasnt fun a few times.
or laugh for hours till my mouth hurt..
Seriously, I would be smiling for hours and if I tried not to smile it would just make me laugh...As far as screwin your head up..it did...not just you though, anyone who has done it whether they realize it or not. Don't know the exact number or amount, but people used to always say that if you do it 7 times (or equivalent dosage) you could get tested and be diagnosed mentally insane...Now that might have been a bunch of junk, I don't know, but it definitely screws you up, no doubt there...
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 10:03 PM
I've came across it twice, both times looked to be legit yet yielded no effects. I have a realiable dude i've known for acouple years, and he says he can come across some at a good price...It'll probably be blotters but I'll ask of course.
I'm just wondering if its going to be some RC or some other chem. Dunno. At the price though, can't hurt to get acouple to try out first...
It has always been pretty cheap, average price $5 a hit or you could get a vial of liquid (about 100 drops depending how you hold the bottle) for $100-$150 and a sheet of blotter usually about $150...but you had to know some peeps to get quantity at a good price...What is he charging you????
insaneike
04-24-2007, 10:04 PM
Ever stuck a 9volt battery to your tongue? Thats what LSD tastes like.. if you can describe it in any way thats how it is to me... but most acid going around is so weak half the time you can't taste shit and need 10+ hits for a 'true' trip. I haven't had good acid since '03. Not that I've been looking either lol. but on the 4th of july i tried to get some and it was no where to be found, so i tried one the famous 'hippie flipping' things, mush + E. fucking BEST SHIT EVER! I always thought wtf why not save em for separate times, but after doing it, beleive me folks, TRY THEM TOGETHER!!! Taking you're experienced with both first that is:cool:
and be sure to have some nitrous and about a a g, or maybe even half g if you're just YOU doing it of blow hehe. oh n a carton of cigs n tons of mountain dew lmao :D
= night of your fucking life!!!
oh wait, how the fuck did i get on this lil ramble haha. but yeah, acid taste like how it feels when you stick a 9volt but to your tongue if you let a full dose set on your tongue n dissolve.
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 10:10 PM
LOL man, i was seriously so out there i would look at someone and not know who they were unless i was close up and me barely able to talk English. My whole visual field was occupied by pretty much what was in my mind. I spent what i can remember of the trip just lying down on my bed in the quiet with my eyes closed, i know there is a lot of this i cant remember. It really doesnt get stronger than this i think, longer yes, but not stronger. I remember seeing and being one with everything, then the birth of the world (dividing into 2, male and female) and the echo flowing on and evolving (I shit you not, i am not talking this up, and no words can express what was going on as any psychonaut knows. I've tripped on acid+shrooms about 50 times so i know what i'm saying). I was so lucky that acid found me when it did, because it was probably only a week or 2 after i seriously permanently injured myself, wanted to kill myself, was in so much pain and knew my body was seriously disabled and would never be the same. The cid made me happy again, and just truely restored my spirit and gave me a love for life. I cant stress how far i went into the collective consciousness. I actually wrote a bit of what i learned the next day, and i typed 1000 words in about 5 mins, and i am never that motivated or have that much imagination or starting point, or anything to say. I could write a novel about it and my theory's of why and how these drugs work and what is happening to you.
If only the gov didn't have such a fucked up view on anything that alters you except alcohol and band-aid prescription drugs. They don't offer healing or cures, just opportunity for more tax money amongst other things.
TappyTibbons
04-24-2007, 10:12 PM
Unless you happen to be in the right place at the right time... or maybe run with the "right" circles.... chances are your not getting real acid. In the drug manuf. business... it's about money... and from what i understand.. there just isn't a terrible amount of money in acid. The way i understand it is, the averedge recreational drug user... may use cocaine.... or heroin.... or speed... and weed for that matter.... daily. Usually, after a while several times daily. The avid acid user... usually does not use acid every single day, and most certainly does not do it multiple times daily. Now I'm not saying no one in the history of the human race has ever eaten a couple doses stretched out over 24 hours... but its not "common". Givin that... and how hard it is to come across the precursors, Its rapid rate of degradation if improperly stored, the organic chem. know how, and the lab equip (which is DEA watch listed) lsd is just not extremely profitable. It's much more profitable to order say an ounce of a DOx research chemical and put it in some panes or some blotters or some liquid. SWIM could order a couple of grams (hundreds of doses) shipped from inside the united states, for under $500 (a very verified source). That gives you an idea of the profitability. The best way to tell, is that DOx substances and most other RC usually take about 2 hours to reach nice effects. While acid should take under an hour. Also, lost of people (in my area at least) have been selling these over sized blotters... as "mescaline" fucking mescal cannot be put on a damn blotter! Sorry about my rant haha, just putting it out there, that alot of acid (although i have been noticing a he he reflux.... pun intended.... these days) is not in fact acid. Not that its not out there. I had the pleasure of working at a very liberal canabis club in sf for 2 years.... about 2 years ago... and I saw PLEANTY of really really old school clean acid working there.... microdots... liquid... gel.... greatful dead blotter.. but I think most of that came from the same place.... locally
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 10:15 PM
Seriously, I would be smiling for hours and if I tried not to smile it would just make me laugh...As far as screwin your head up..it did...not just you though, anyone who has done it whether they realize it or not. Don't know the exact number or amount, but people used to always say that if you do it 7 times (or equivalent dosage) you could get tested and be diagnosed mentally insane...Now that might have been a bunch of junk, I don't know, but it definitely screws you up, no doubt there...
No that's a myth. Acid is harmless if you have no underlying mental problems, and if you use it no more than once a month. No physical long term effects what so ever, and only posative mental effects if you know how to work with it and accept what you face. I really don't agree that it screws you up, but i know using way too often will. I have used it too much (on 2 occasions 3 times a week) and came out ok. Not that that should be done by any means. I shouldn't have.
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 10:24 PM
Ever stuck a 9volt battery to your tongue? Thats what LSD tastes like.. if you can describe it in any way thats how it is to me... but most acid going around is so weak half the time you can't taste shit and need 10+ hits for a 'true' trip. I haven't had good acid since '03. Not that I've been looking either lol. but on the 4th of july i tried to get some and it was no where to be found, so i tried one the famous 'hippie flipping' things, mush + E. fucking BEST SHIT EVER! I always thought wtf why not save em for separate times, but after doing it, beleive me folks, TRY THEM TOGETHER!!! Taking you're experienced with both first that is:cool:
and be sure to have some nitrous and about a a g, or maybe even half g if you're just YOU doing it of blow hehe. oh n a carton of cigs n tons of mountain dew lmao :D
= night of your fucking life!!!
oh wait, how the fuck did i get on this lil ramble haha. but yeah, acid taste like how it feels when you stick a 9volt but to your tongue if you let a full dose set on your tongue n dissolve.
Sorry man but i don't think that was lsd. I think 5-meo-amt was the one with the bitter taste, lasts the same time too..
But anyway if you dont get real LSD, you will most probably be getting, as mentioned above, 5-meo-amt, or one of the DOx's (DOA, DOB, DOC etc.) which are hallucinogenic amphs with hallucinogenic effects. The trouble is these substances are toxic if you have too much, but LSD, you could have 1000 doses and it would still not be toxic for you, although you would probably be tripping for 2 weeks and i would say lose your mind, but i've read of people coming out of this sort of thing ok, like in an acid lab 2 people snorting some pure powder thinking it was coke. What a trip that must have been :rolleyes:
Skript
04-24-2007, 10:31 PM
No that's a myth. Acid is harmless if you have no underlying mental problems, and if you use it no more than once a month. No physical long term effects what so ever, and only posative mental effects if you know how to work with it and accept what you face. I really don't agree that it screws you up, but i know using way too often will. I have used it too much (on 2 occasions 3 times a week) and came out ok. Not that that should be done by any means. I shouldn't have.
I beleive lsd can cause psychological damage to a person, either good or bad.. Some people see the world in a different way after taking it..
I think lsd has caused me to zone out on shit more and cause paranoia and ego problems.. But ive done hundreds of hits of good acid.. It can warp your mind..
drugsaregood
04-24-2007, 10:36 PM
Hah damn. Thanks for all the replies guys, much obliged...He's saying at 6 a pc, dunno about bulk...As for the possibility of it not being real but some other junk, whats the chances of it showing up on UA? Pretty risky, no? Probably safer to go with mescaline\shrooms..
Ragdoll
04-24-2007, 10:39 PM
Wellll.....the REAL acid was LSD25, way back when. I don't think acid has ever been quite what it was before 1968-69 or so.
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 10:39 PM
Unless you happen to be in the right place at the right time... or maybe run with the "right" circles.... chances are your not getting real acid. In the drug manuf. business... it's about money... and from what i understand.. there just isn't a terrible amount of money in acid. The way i understand it is, the averedge recreational drug user... may use cocaine.... or heroin.... or speed... and weed for that matter.... daily. Usually, after a while several times daily. The avid acid user... usually does not use acid every single day, and most certainly does not do it multiple times daily. Now I'm not saying no one in the history of the human race has ever eaten a couple doses stretched out over 24 hours... but its not "common". Givin that... and how hard it is to come across the precursors, Its rapid rate of degradation if improperly stored, the organic chem. know how, and the lab equip (which is DEA watch listed) lsd is just not extremely profitable. It's much more profitable to order say an ounce of a DOx research chemical and put it in some panes or some blotters or some liquid. SWIM could order a couple of grams (hundreds of doses) shipped from inside the united states, for under $500 (a very verified source). That gives you an idea of the profitability. The best way to tell, is that DOx substances and most other RC usually take about 2 hours to reach nice effects. While acid should take under an hour. Also, lost of people (in my area at least) have been selling these over sized blotters... as "mescaline" fucking mescal cannot be put on a damn blotter! Sorry about my rant haha, just putting it out there, that alot of acid (although i have been noticing a he he reflux.... pun intended.... these days) is not in fact acid. Not that its not out there. I had the pleasure of working at a very liberal canabis club in sf for 2 years.... about 2 years ago... and I saw PLEANTY of really really old school clean acid working there.... microdots... liquid... gel.... greatful dead blotter.. but I think most of that came from the same place.... locally
There is always fake junk out there and always will be some and in dry situations like it is for acid now people do tend to take advantage...Just like with E, remember 5-6 years ago it was all good and before that for a while but now its mixed with all kinds of junk if there is even any MDMA in it at all...I knew people back in the day who sold fake crap just to make a buck...
Had a guy show me how to make gel tabs, only he didn't add the majik...the A...Then he tried to getme to help him sell it, bunch of junk man...they were purple tabs and looked real, a perfect point in the middle and that fool took em to the city and hit about 3 raves and made a killin (in and out in an hour so no one can find you) that was his motto...you can get shot for doing that stupid ass crap.................I also knew a guy ( a different guy) who would sell sleeping pills at raves as E and people bought that junk from him....Just in case any of you are offered any "Blue Supermans" or "Blue Smurfs" or "Big S's" or anything with an S on both sides DO NOT BUY, it is fake junk sleeping pills you can buy at any store...Stupid people, he used to crush one up and put the powder in the bag and shake around with about 80 other pills, why? you might ask...what is the first this people want to do when looking at an E pill about to buy? yep they will touch their tongue with it and if it taste worse than any other pill you ever had they will buy it; so this fool would make sure they would get a nasty mouth full by spreading around the powder with the other pills...
Don't think this was me, I know a lot about it since he was renting a room out of my house for a while but I didn't like him there cause I knew one day someone would figure him out who knew where he lived and show up so he wasn't there long thats for sure...You gotta watch for the fake crap though always, its there...
Skript
04-24-2007, 10:40 PM
Haha.. Seems theres a lot of acidheads out here..
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 10:41 PM
Hah damn. Thanks for all the replies guys, much obliged...He's saying at 6 a pc, dunno about bulk...As for the possibility of it not being real but some other junk, whats the chances of it showing up on UA? Pretty risky, no? Probably safer to go with mescaline\shrooms..
Acid will not show on a drug test...
Ragdoll
04-24-2007, 10:45 PM
I beleive lsd can cause psychological damage to a person, either good or bad.. Some people see the world in a different way after taking it..
I think lsd has caused me to zone out on shit more and cause paranoia and ego problems.. But ive done hundreds of hits of good acid.. It can warp your mind..
I agree. I had a weird experience on acid many years ago and something has been different ever since. Then, I found out years after I did the acid, that I do have an underlying neurological disorder. The problem is, acid might be fine for most people, but how do you know whether or not you're the one with an "underlying" mental or neurological disorder? Having a bad trip and ending up with permanent damage is a shitty way to find out you already had some kind of problem.
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 10:51 PM
Well seem as you have done hundreds of hits of good acid n you shouldn't be doing it more than once a month, i would say that's your problem. It's not the drug, it's the abuse. It's not physically addictive and it's very rare for anyone to abuse it, so you just gotta be sensible with it, not dumb. So i take it you woulda been tripping for about 15 years if done responsibly. Seem as you've done hundreds, i picked the smaller number of 200 and divided it by 12.. 16 years. If so then interesting, but if you do it sensibly, and once again have no underlying mental problems you will be fine. Some mental problems can be through not being able to accept. It's common knowledge that psychedelics can reveal many truths, about yourself and the world the trouble is accepting.
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 10:59 PM
I agree. I had a weird experience on acid many years ago and something has been different ever since. Then, I found out years after I did the acid, that I do have an underlying neurological disorder. The problem is, acid might be fine for most people, but how do you know whether or not you're the one with an "underlying" mental or neurological disorder? Having a bad trip and ending up with permanent damage is a shitty way to find out you already had some kind of problem.
Sorry to hear that. Everyday things can make these problems surface, the stresses of life. Acid pronounces anything about you, emphasizes it. If there's something not quite right, that will grow too. And there is no way to know for sure without doing it. But if you find yourself depressed, paranoid, manic, or anything without drugs then you know to avoid. Another thing is people often don't have the ability to reflect on themselves to realize things like this. Best ask an honest friend if they think you are normal, or if you have any strange tendencies.
But yes i know it's true some people won't know, and i feel sorry for them. But let me point you to an interesting study done with LSD and deeply disturbed children. It cured or significantly helped all of them.
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v07n3/07318fis.html
And yes, unfortunately abuse of anything will cause negative side affect, including abuse of mcdonalds.
OCfenatiq
04-24-2007, 11:03 PM
Sorry man but i don't think that was lsd. I think 5-meo-amt was the one with the bitter taste, lasts the same time too..
But anyway if you dont get real LSD, you will most probably be getting, as mentioned above, 5-meo-amt, or one of the DOx's (DOA, DOB, DOC etc.) which are hallucinogenic amphs with hallucinogenic effects. The trouble is these substances are toxic if you have too much, but LSD, you could have 1000 doses and it would still not be toxic for you, although you would probably be tripping for 2 weeks and i would say lose your mind, but i've read of people coming out of this sort of thing ok, like in an acid lab 2 people snorting some pure powder thinking it was coke. What a trip that must have been :rolleyes:
Back in 1998 or 99 a cop pulled over 2 guys and the cop saw a mason jar partially full of a clear liquid and told them to step out so they did. He opened the jar and smelled...nothing really...so he took a big swig, swished it around in his mouth just to taste it and spit it out...he told the guy to go ahead thinking it was nothing, but that cop was found dead in his squad car a few hours later...even though he spit it out..The thing is it soaks into your poors or whatever is in your mouth, you can even drop the liquid in your eyes (although I was at a rave when a girl died doing this)...you could drop a few drops in your hand and still trip off of it. So even in small amounts it can be dangerous and if you buy bulk handle it carefully, if you carry a sheet of blotter around with your bare hand you will trip and maybe a lot harder than you want to...
I have always heard LSD is toxic at too high a dose just like anything else, but I've know people who have done 30 hits before and I had 3 hits of the same batch and tripped balls so you can handle large doses, but DO NOT unless you have someone it many times and are with someone who can help you if needed...
At another rave party a friend paid $10 for 3 hits of liquid and wanted me to count to make sure the guy didn't rip him off...I watched and counted, 1 drop, then no more drops, just a stream of liquid (the guy selling was trippin hard and couldn't see if it was dropping or not, he even looked at me and asked if that was 3 or not) It was so much my friend had some run down his face/cheek. Either way hehad alrady taken 4 Black gel tabs and 2 blotter squares...needless to say he was nervous asking if the guy gave him too much and I never changed my answer telling him he got 3 drops and that was it...and I had to stay with him all night and constantly tell him when he would say "I think I had too much", I would say no you didn't man your fine have fun...........I told him the next day and he thanked me for not telling him, he said he felt like he was going out of his mind and every so often he would start to worry and would ask me and I would calm him down.....Anyone who has taken A in large doses knows if someone get nervous or something just tell em it will be OK, everything is fine; no matter what otherwise they might start freakin out and have a bad trip or something...
Sorry, a lot to read but I'm done...
Skript
04-24-2007, 11:06 PM
I agree. I had a weird experience on acid many years ago and something has been different ever since. Then, I found out years after I did the acid, that I do have an underlying neurological disorder. The problem is, acid might be fine for most people, but how do you know whether or not you're the one with an "underlying" mental or neurological disorder? Having a bad trip and ending up with permanent damage is a shitty way to find out you already had some kind of problem.
Yea i had a bad trip once and it was horrible.. I remember running out of a party thinking everyone was watching me and plotting shit.. I ran out of the party freaking out for hours by myself feeling as i was in two places, with people staring at me asking if I was ok.. Then I started thinking something was wrong with me.
Since then lsd hasent been the same, just quiet and noid.. Smoking pot still brings back them scary feelings..
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 11:11 PM
Wellll.....the REAL acid was LSD25, way back when. I don't think acid has ever been quite what it was before 1968-69 or so.
Been on a lot of forums with a lot of debate about this. The outcome was that LSD25 is the only active LSD molecule or whatever, so in the synth the only active drug to come from it would be LSD-25, no worse ones like LSD-12 or anything:p. Police seizures have still shown the majority is LSD-25. Someone was skeptical about the difference in acid from the 90's to the present. Ofcourse he lost his old source, but he got mailed a tab, and yes he was getting sold another substance. But LSD-25 is without a doubt out there in plentiful amounts, if you know the right people and want it enough.
ALSO at Albert Hoffman's (the discoveror of LSD) 100th birthday(still alive and a lot healthier than most his age), someone saved an ampole of lsd-25 made by Sandoz, a pharms company who first marketed LSD when it was legal. At Alberts birthday it was cracked open and spread around. People confirmed that street acid really wasn't any different to the to quality pharmaceutical grade stuff. Dunno why there are so many skeptics.
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 11:18 PM
The minute doses that cause death in animal experiments may give the impression that LSD is a very toxic substance. However, if one compares the lethal dose in animals with the effective dose in human beings, which is 0.0003-0.001 mg/kg (0.0003 to 0.001 thousandths of a gram per kilogram of body weight), this shows an extraordinarily low toxicity for LSD. Only a 300- to 600-fold overdose of LSD, compared to the lethal dose in rabbits, or fully a 50,000- to 100,000fold overdose, in comparison to the toxicity in the mouse, would have fatal results in human beings.
OnzZznoD
04-24-2007, 11:25 PM
Back in 1998 or 99 a cop pulled over 2 guys and the cop saw a mason jar partially full of a clear liquid and told them to step out so they did. He opened the jar and smelled...nothing really...so he took a big swig, swished it around in his mouth just to taste it and spit it out...he told the guy to go ahead thinking it was nothing, but that cop was found dead in his squad car a few hours later...even though he spit it out..The thing is it soaks into your poors or whatever is in your mouth, you can even drop the liquid in your eyes (although I was at a rave when a girl died doing this)...you could drop a few drops in your hand and still trip off of it. So even in small amounts it can be dangerous and if you buy bulk handle it carefully, if you carry a sheet of blotter around with your bare hand you will trip and maybe a lot harder than you want to...
I have always heard LSD is toxic at too high a dose just like anything else, but I've know people who have done 30 hits before and I had 3 hits of the same batch and tripped balls so you can handle large doses, but DO NOT unless you have someone it many times and are with someone who can help you if needed...
At another rave party a friend paid $10 for 3 hits of liquid and wanted me to count to make sure the guy didn't rip him off...I watched and counted, 1 drop, then no more drops, just a stream of liquid (the guy selling was trippin hard and couldn't see if it was dropping or not, he even looked at me and asked if that was 3 or not) It was so much my friend had some run down his face/cheek. Either way hehad alrady taken 4 Black gel tabs and 2 blotter squares...needless to say he was nervous asking if the guy gave him too much and I never changed my answer telling him he got 3 drops and that was it...and I had to stay with him all night and constantly tell him when he would say "I think I had too much", I would say no you didn't man your fine have fun...........I told him the next day and he thanked me for not telling him, he said he felt like he was going out of his mind and every so often he would start to worry and would ask me and I would calm him down.....Anyone who has taken A in large doses knows if someone get nervous or something just tell em it will be OK, everything is fine; no matter what otherwise they might start freakin out and have a bad trip or something...
Sorry, a lot to read but I'm done...
Holy crap, what a blissfully ignorant and stupid cop. Although i do feel sorry for him considering he died in such a bad way.
Well yeah, i have spewed out enough info so im gonna avoid this thread, LSD and shrooms have been a strong passion of mine for a long time so i couldn't help but to partake, but now i must drag myself away.
Diacetyl
04-24-2007, 11:46 PM
Yeah, All the acid i've done has made my schizophrenia ALOT worse.
Kinda makes me wish I hadn't done it, but at the same time I'm glad, because LSD is such a beautifull experience.
soulninja
04-25-2007, 02:25 AM
Lsd is the bomb,probably my favorite drug.Did any one evr hear of people having crystal lsd ,I guess thats what you get when you synthesize lsd before they make it into liquid?I think if you touch the crystal with the tip of a pencil and lick it or put it on your skin its like 10 hits at once!Anyway about 5 years ago i was on tour with Widespread Panic and we met this group of out to lunch fucking guys from New Mexico.THese cats had pure crystal L and were finger printing each other in the lot.They crushed up the crystal in a balloon and would stick they're finger in in and smear it on each others foreheads!I think they also walked around and unsuspectedly touched random people which is totally fucked up.We ended up buying liquid of the same guys and it was AMAZING L,some of the best i've had and i've dosed around 100 plus times.I can only imagine what those dudes are like today, they just randomly disappeared of the tour.My two cents
Dan Steely
04-25-2007, 02:35 AM
one of my friends had a crystal in 96. those that got any where near it tripped real hard. a tiny spec of dust was a lot. learned a lot about the universe that night, at least i thought i did.
OCfenatiq
04-25-2007, 03:07 AM
Lsd is the bomb,probably my favorite drug.Did any one evr hear of people having crystal lsd ,I guess thats what you get when you synthesize lsd before they make it into liquid?I think if you touch the crystal with the tip of a pencil and lick it or put it on your skin its like 10 hits at once!Anyway about 5 years ago i was on tour with Widespread Panic and we met this group of out to lunch fucking guys from New Mexico.THese cats had pure crystal L and were finger printing each other in the lot.They crushed up the crystal in a balloon and would stick they're finger in in and smear it on each others foreheads!I think they also walked around and unsuspectedly touched random people which is totally fucked up.We ended up buying liquid of the same guys and it was AMAZING L,some of the best i've had and i've dosed around 100 plus times.I can only imagine what those dudes are like today, they just randomly disappeared of the tour.My two cents
I never heard of crystal cid, but one of my friends the last year of high school was really into acid and got a couple liquid vials in those sweet breath bottles of Lavender and no lie; we had a teacher who always chewed juicy fruit gum, constantly every day and there was always a pack of juicy fruit gum on here desk, anyway the teacher left the room just before class started so people were talking and not paying attention so he got up and got a piece out, put a few drops on it and put it back inside the pack...Let me just say this is cruel as everything and I would never do anything like this to an unsuspecting teacher especially; but anyways sure enough the teacher left early that day and some people that were in the class when she "got sick" said she was writing on the board and just fell over, but hopped back up and said she had to leave then just walked out...I always felt bad for her, if she never did anything like this before she could have thought she was going insane or something, anyway I'm done...
drugsaregood
04-25-2007, 03:02 PM
I never heard of crystal cid, but one of my friends the last year of high school was really into acid and got a couple liquid vials in those sweet breath bottles of Lavender and no lie; we had a teacher who always chewed juicy fruit gum, constantly every day and there was always a pack of juicy fruit gum on here desk, anyway the teacher left the room just before class started so people were talking and not paying attention so he got up and got a piece out, put a few drops on it and put it back inside the pack...Let me just say this is cruel as everything and I would never do anything like this to an unsuspecting teacher especially; but anyways sure enough the teacher left early that day and some people that were in the class when she "got sick" said she was writing on the board and just fell over, but hopped back up and said she had to leave then just walked out...I always felt bad for her, if she never did anything like this before she could have thought she was going insane or something, anyway I'm done...
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHA.
Ragdoll
04-25-2007, 03:51 PM
Speaking of acid, this website might be of interest to some. It's Owlsley's site:
http://www.thebear.org/
Speaking of acid, this website might be of interest to some. It's Owlsley's site:
http://www.thebear.org/
Good post sis,I heard he was on a sheep farm in Australia.Good to see what he's up to.Owlsley....what a guy,a living legend.
I have a supply of pure LSD-straight from the chemist.Now you know why I'm such a weirdo.
Oh and Euphoria,be careful with LSD.It can be great or terrible.
TappyTibbons
04-25-2007, 04:14 PM
Been on a lot of forums with a lot of debate about this. The outcome was that LSD25 is the only active LSD molecule or whatever, so in the synth the only active drug to come from it would be LSD-25, no worse ones like LSD-12 or anything:p. Police seizures have still shown the majority is LSD-25. Someone was skeptical about the difference in acid from the 90's to the present. Ofcourse he lost his old source, but he got mailed a tab, and yes he was getting sold another substance. But LSD-25 is without a doubt out there in plentiful amounts, if you know the right people and want it enough.
ALSO at Albert Hoffman's (the discoveror of LSD) 100th birthday(still alive and a lot healthier than most his age), someone saved an ampole of lsd-25 made by Sandoz, a pharms company who first marketed LSD when it was legal. At Alberts birthday it was cracked open and spread around. People confirmed that street acid really wasn't any different to the to quality pharmaceutical grade stuff. Dunno why there are so many skeptics.
My boss from the medical dispensary I worked at wen't the that synopsism. He said it was fucking AMAZING. To my suprise, he told me that there wasn't like tons of lsd floating around. And the ozrics didnt play :-(
Greendaze
04-25-2007, 04:24 PM
I never heard of crystal cid, but one of my friends the last year of high school was really into acid and got a couple liquid vials in those sweet breath bottles of Lavender and no lie; we had a teacher who always chewed juicy fruit gum, constantly every day and there was always a pack of juicy fruit gum on here desk, anyway the teacher left the room just before class started so people were talking and not paying attention so he got up and got a piece out, put a few drops on it and put it back inside the pack...Let me just say this is cruel as everything and I would never do anything like this to an unsuspecting teacher especially; but anyways sure enough the teacher left early that day and some people that were in the class when she "got sick" said she was writing on the board and just fell over, but hopped back up and said she had to leave then just walked out...I always felt bad for her, if she never did anything like this before she could have thought she was going insane or something, anyway I'm done...
That's the most awesome thing I've ever heard!
I would be SUPER pissed if that happened to me. My mind is on the edge of insanity already, I don't need any Acid to push it right over.
dirtdog
04-25-2007, 05:24 PM
Ive only done this once. I got it with teddy ghrams(sp) and I took one.Nothing happened.... took the 2nd one an hour later.In 30 minutes. BAM. I was trippin hard.
The body high was weird. Everything was in neon lights and just insane. I lived in the middle of the woods at this time and just spent hours wandering in the woods.
I laughed pretty fucking hard once during this trip. For some reason, I found Skittles to be amusing...
Its fucking hard to eat candy on acid. Jesus.
Anyways yeah it was fun. Ive had previous experience with shrooms and it helped me get through this trip easily :)
Woowoo
04-25-2007, 05:36 PM
he got up and got a piece out, put a few drops on it and put it back inside the pack...
That's not very cool, in my book. People think that they are losing their minds, they don't even think of the possibility that they are on a drug. Why? Because its so utterly unlike any drug they've ever experienced they wouldn't believe that such a drug could be possible.
The military was doing things like that to soldiers as experiments--they'd give some poor G.I. increasingly larger doses each day, without his knoweldge--and the results were disastrous. One soldier committed suicide leaving some insane rambling message that sounded like he believed he was guilty of treason.
People who go down this road need to be fully prepared both in surroundings and in mental scenary as well. You can't just take somebody in the middle of their work day, with 100 things on their mind, and turn their colors on. They'll lose it, bigtime. Nobody deserves that.
Respect the drug. It's not just a 'kick'--it opens doors.
euphoria2002
04-25-2007, 05:47 PM
LSD has a magic about it that the imitations don't have. It has no body load, the visuals are very bright with tracers/trails, and you will see amazing patterns.
I recommend shrooms equally if you have not tried them, they have a certain magic feeling about them too, but in their own different, more natural and organic way.
Magic, magical, magic feelings. That's exactly what I've been searching for on the higher path.
WarmCyanide
04-25-2007, 06:14 PM
acid has no smell or taste: i used to play with acid alot. (ROAs)
from accidental personal experience (i'll spare the story:abduct:) LSD will fluoresce (glow) under a blacklight. it is a very simple test.
careful though because the paper or any other medium its on will fluoresce as well, giving false positive results. when i did it i dropped the tab in a shot glass full of water let it sit for a bit then take the tab out and hold a black light (not the bulb a real tube) up to it. the water will appear milky white if theres any el ess in it
also. if you put it on your tongue and take the tab away after about 30 seconds, the area where the tab was on your tongue will fluoresce a milky white color. you cannot see it under visible light though.
soulninja
04-25-2007, 08:38 PM
Thats funny dirtdog one summer i was the L king in my town and i was selling them on teddy grahams!Thats wierd?I stopped though cuz after a while in the bag together they would crumble into pieces and then the friends were like"might as well just eat'em noone will buy it ...and of course we did.lol
That was also the summer of the magical purple gel tabs ....mmmmmm geltabs..doh
TappyTibbons
04-25-2007, 09:07 PM
once while on vacation, I opened a capsule of 2-ci into a friends can of dr. p. it was really funny. We could see all the parts of the onset of the trip. first he felt sightly un-comfertable, the he took a fat shit, and then he started looking at the carpet very intetly. At a point, he said......"dudes....I feel kinda crazy... i think im like finally loosing it.... or did one of you guys dose me?" and i said yes, and he was much relieved and we all had a great laugh. Now, your thinking...tappy.....this is a fucked up thing to do to your boy. And i would agree, if he hadn't told me that for the sake of science, it was my duty to dose him, when he wasn't expecting it, and he was in the proper setting.
soulninja
04-25-2007, 09:18 PM
I was just wondering if anyone else remembers when those two guys(names i dont know)that got busted a few years back,They were like the main pipeline of L for the whole USA.I read an article after the fact that the feds got onto them and they packed up shop out of Cali. and headed to the mid-west.I dont remember the exact numbers but the feds gottem in kansas with like a few million dollars worth of equipment and hundreds of gallons of L.The reason i brought it up is because again i was on tour with a few jambands and doin the whole festival scene for a few years and when those guys went down it was the end of doses on that scene for a good two years!It would show up randomly at times but it was either really weak or bunk.Its a damn shame.Pretty sure the guys are lifers now.
kidding
04-25-2007, 09:35 PM
[quote=OCfenatiq;122199]Back in 1998 or 99 a cop pulled over 2 guys and the cop saw a mason jar partially full of a clear liquid and told them to step out so they did. He opened the jar and smelled...nothing really...so he took a big swig, swished it around in his mouth just to taste it and spit it out...he told the guy to go ahead thinking it was nothing, but that cop was found dead in his squad car a few hours later...even though he spit it out..The thing is it soaks into your poors or whatever is in your mouth, you can even drop the liquid in your eyes (although I was at a rave when a girl died doing this)...you could drop a few drops in your hand and still trip off of it. So even in small amounts it can be dangerous and if you buy bulk handle it carefully, if you carry a sheet of blotter around with your bare hand you will trip and maybe a lot harder than you want to...
I have always heard LSD is toxic at too high a dose just like anything else, but I've know people who have done 30 hits before and I had 3 hits of the same batch and tripped balls so you can handle large doses, but DO NOT unless you have someone it many times and are with someone who can help you if needed...quote]
that reeks of urban legend, no offense....
acid is... the greatest.
SWIM is looking forward to dosing this weekend! :D
but despite how amazing it can be, i think dosing that teacher is just the most fucking awful thing. it doesn't sound like they freaked out, thank god.... but still. i can't even imagine how horrible it would be, going insane for absolutely no reason. wow. poor teacher!
anyway.
happy trails
soulninja
04-25-2007, 09:47 PM
[quote=OCfenatiq;122199]Back in 1998 or 99 a cop pulled over 2 guys and the cop saw a mason jar partially full of a clear liquid and told them to step out so they did. He opened the jar and smelled...nothing really...so he took a big swig, swished it around in his mouth just to taste it and spit it out...he told the guy to go ahead thinking it was nothing, but that cop was found dead in his squad car a few hours later...even though he spit it out..The thing is it soaks into your poors or whatever is in your mouth, you can even drop the liquid in your eyes (although I was at a rave when a girl died doing this)...you could drop a few drops in your hand and still trip off of it. So even in small amounts it can be dangerous and if you buy bulk handle it carefully, if you carry a sheet of blotter around with your bare hand you will trip and maybe a lot harder than you want to...
I have always heard LSD is toxic at too high a dose just like anything else, but I've know people who have done 30 hits before and I had 3 hits of the same batch and tripped balls so you can handle large doses, but DO NOT unless you have someone it many times and are with someone who can help you if needed...quote]
that reeks of urban legend, no offense....
acid is... the greatest.
SWIM is looking forward to dosing this weekend! :D
but despite how amazing it can be, i think dosing that teacher is just the most fucking awful thing. it doesn't sound like they freaked out, thank god.... but still. i can't even imagine how horrible it would be, going insane for absolutely no reason. wow. poor teacher!
anyway.
happy trails
I totally agree with the teacher that is horrible, but the lsd wouldnt hurt her or the cop i dont think,the mind can just say i've had enough or this is too much and seize the fuck up and synapsis fire the wrong way and your a fucking vegatable.I've personally taken 15 hits at once and it didnt do anything to me,Ive actually tripped just as hard off of one or two good hits back in the day.It''ll take alot of testing to get the true answers to these questions...and I would like to personally volunteer my time for such an experiment!
HeidiW
04-26-2007, 12:46 AM
Me and my sister did 25 hits the weekend of prom in '94. I don't know how in the fuck she managed to get her hair fixed and all that shit. Boy it was fun!!!:D
Sitar
04-26-2007, 04:53 PM
I always think it's funny when I hear people talking about how hard they've tripped and the "awesome" visuals they've gotten. Then I'm like, "really, what kind of visuals", and they're like, "man, I saw the walls breathing and the chair melted".
And I'm like, "so.... you didn't get any visuals".
REAL visuals are seeing totem poles on the wall, Aztec designs in the carpet, Mayan temples, and people's faces turning into Native Americans, monks, lions, and Geishas in rapid succession. And then you see a depiction of your own birth and death and the construction of the universe with your eyes closed.
Anything less is bullshit and a waste of time.
dirtdog
04-26-2007, 04:59 PM
I always think it's funny when I hear people talking about how hard they've tripped and the "awesome" visuals they've gotten. Then I'm like, "really, what kind of visuals", and they're like, "man, I saw the walls breathing and the chair melted".
And I'm like, "so.... you didn't get any visuals".
REAL visuals are seeing totem poles on the wall, Aztec designs in the carpet, Mayan temples, and people's faces turning into Native Americans, monks, lions, and Geishas in rapid succession. And then you see a depiction of your own birth and death and the construction of the universe with your eyes closed.
Anything less is bullshit and a waste of time.
Well
First time I took shrooms. People turned into demons. I saw vines growing and they blossmomed skulls. I also kept hearing a beat and also kept hearing," tomorrow shall never come, a thousand deaths you will die, over and over."
I freaked out pretty bad lets just say.
by the way
first time taking shrooms on halloween night. i was drunk and found a bag of shrooms on the table and ate most of em :-P
my acid trip was cool. i thought i was in outer space flying over planets. i would also look at the walls and i would see like a movie screen and a story would appear before my eyes(i sat in the dark staring at the walls.)
good times :)
soulninja
04-26-2007, 05:02 PM
When i see visuals off acid i see more like flying pinwheels andcrazy patterns with vivd colors and sometimes..and this happened more than once i see boats ?Which i dont understand but its always fun!The last time i did lsa however i spent the later part of my trip with a indian man,some sort of shaman i think.We never spoke but he'd point at things and id go where he pointed and i would get these amazing realizations about my life and the universe.I know ,my friends thought i was nuts when i told them about it so dont expect anything different here.lol:D
euphoria2002
04-26-2007, 05:37 PM
OK now. All you guys are gonna have to stop with the trip descriptions! It's making me want to try it and it's getting too hard to resist. It's like the drug equivalent of the Borg.
Resistance is futile!!!
Sitar
04-26-2007, 07:14 PM
I've never found hallucinogens/psychedelics particularly "fun" in any way; more just terribly interesting. And sometimes just terrible.
I think most bad experiences that people have with them are caused by people not taking the threat of a bad trip seriously and they take the drugs for the first time in some dumbass setting with people that are jerks/morons.
Stupid people generally don't have particularly profound or meaningful experiences with psychedelics. Because they're "mind-revealing" drugs, the more intelligent and open-minded you are, the more powerful and awesome the experience will be (of course dosage has something to do with it).
And the dumber you are, the less affected you are by psychedelics. I could never understand some dumb people I know who could take 10 hits of acid, then hit the bar, drink a pitcher of beer and then shoot a perfect game of pool. How the fuck....
soulninja
04-26-2007, 07:59 PM
I've never found hallucinogens/psychedelics particularly "fun" in any way; more just terribly interesting. And sometimes just terrible.
I think most bad experiences that people have with them are caused by people not taking the threat of a bad trip seriously and they take the drugs for the first time in some dumbass setting with people that are jerks/morons.
Stupid people generally don't have particularly profound or meaningful experiences with psychedelics. Because they're "mind-revealing" drugs, the more intelligent and open-minded you are, the more powerful and awesome the experience will be (of course dosage has something to do with it).
And the dumber you are, the less affected you are by psychedelics. I could never understand some dumb people I know who could take 10 hits of acid, then hit the bar, drink a pitcher of beer and then shoot a perfect game of pool. How the fuck....
I agree fully,I have a few friends who sware they will never touch acid again because of a bad trip.Then come to find out they took it at home while they're parents were in the next room or went to the fucking mall or something,Its like what the hell did you expect!Suroundings are crucial to having fun on lsd.Thats the whole reason they have hippie festivals in the summer!Its the perfect place to buy anything you want,get as whacked as you want and know that everyone else is just as fucked up,and there is no cops.But the more you dose the easier it is to handle in less acid friendly places.
People with little intellect definately dont get the full effect of what lsd is about.They just usually have a bad trip or laugh uncontrollably for hours.Dont get me wrong i get in laughing fits at times on lsd too,that just happens i think,things tend to be alot more hillarious .One more thing...I dont know why but i can shoot a mean game of pool on lsd!LOL
mrklean
04-26-2007, 08:01 PM
there is a very cool interview of the bear on edot. I f you are into that scene you should definately read the interview, it's very interesting.
OCfenatiq
04-28-2007, 02:26 AM
That's not very cool, in my book. People think that they are losing their minds, they don't even think of the possibility that they are on a drug. Why? Because its so utterly unlike any drug they've ever experienced they wouldn't believe that such a drug could be possible.
The military was doing things like that to soldiers as experiments--they'd give some poor G.I. increasingly larger doses each day, without his knoweldge--and the results were disastrous. One soldier committed suicide leaving some insane rambling message that sounded like he believed he was guilty of treason.
People who go down this road need to be fully prepared both in surroundings and in mental scenary as well. You can't just take somebody in the middle of their work day, with 100 things on their mind, and turn their colors on. They'll lose it, bigtime. Nobody deserves that.
Respect the drug. It's not just a 'kick'--it opens doors.
To be honest, there is no way I would have gave those hits to the teacher but just thought I'd tell the story since we were talking about it. I agree as someone said before that you must be prepared before a trip with acid...maybe some are different but I would think I was going insane if I'd never done it before and someone gave me some unknowingly. Seriously I don't condone doing this to someone, that was a stupid high school dumb ass doing his usual stupid stuff...
It used to fun though to go out trippin, but as far as those talking about having bad trips, I never had one, however had I been in the wrong surroundings I could see how it could easily turn bad and I've been around someone who had a somewhat bad trip (She didn't freak out or anything but basically left the rave and just sat in the car all night; something freaked her out I guess; anyway some friends had to stay with her all night, just looking out). Thats why I mentioned being with friends who know what their doing, most of the time someone telling you that everything is OK can calm you down from my experience...The first time I smoked out while trippin, I got the paranoia from the weed and was wiggin for a while but it was all good...
And Heidi WOW!! 25 hits...There is no way I would touch that much unless it was weak or something, I couldn't imagine that trip. I don't know, either I was getting some good stuff or I haven't tripped as hard as I thought, I get nervous with a 10 strip...I mean I know some guys who have taken high doses like that but they were always trippin cause they supplied the county for a while, always liquid (either lavender or white fluff)...Either way if your trippin for the first time just know where your gonna be and trip with a friend then have fun...
soulninja
04-28-2007, 04:10 PM
Ahhh!Memories ...white fluff!Imiss those days on phish tour.Good times
Chipper
04-28-2007, 04:47 PM
I confess that SWIM tried to inject LSD. Don't bother, the smooth slide upwards is far more pleasant.
scikid
05-30-2007, 01:00 PM
I don't know if I can handle L anymore. The last trip I had was pretty nice though. MDMA is the only pyschedelic I look foward to doing nowadays. I'd rather get drunk then trip. I have friends that are still going strong with the pyschs though. I had a vial shoved in my face a week ago and passed, also passed on some Deemsters as well.
I'm such a wuss
RxQueen
05-30-2007, 08:41 PM
man, i dunno how i missed this thread so far.... i just read the whole thing and DAMN do i wanna trip now! it's been a while....
i can't even count how many times i've tripped. i spent a lotta time on Dead tours back in the day, and was dealing liquid white fluff for a while too (back in the 90's sometime maybe?) i don't know how long it's even been since i had any acid i'd consider to be really good.... except for last summer at a friend's wedding. the ol' hippie family of friends came out to the woods for some live music and a night or 2 of campfire silliness.... and i had one of the best trips i've had in years! oooooo-wheeeeeeee!! :D
and euphoria.... if you do decide to take the plunge, don't underestimate the power of set and setting. your mindset before take-off, and where you are for the experience. and it's always a good idea to have a guide who's done it before, to help you steer if you have trouble on the journey! psychedelics are powerful tools, and can sometimes pick locks inside your brain that help hide things you don't wanna see, as well as the things you ought to see.
also, it never hurts to have some form of tranquilizer on hand to use if things just get too damn weird. i had a buddy once with some underlying head-case issues (wish i'd have known this before the fact!) a bunch of us ate some acid with him, and he damn near freaked out everyone's trip! i spent the better part of my trip talking him down, and thank god i had some downers to knock him out with! the next day he kept thanking me, and telling me that he thought i was some kind of wizard or something, reading his thoughts and casting spells to rid him of demons. like i said -- powerful stuff!
OK... now i wish that i had those little bottles of liquid from so many years ago! :D
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