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Matty Fats 420
09-27-2005, 04:51 PM
i have a few tylonol 4s here, i was wondering if they could be IVed or what other ways would be good to get the best effect out of them

Paregoric Kid
09-27-2005, 06:01 PM
Use The Search Engine

the answer is NO! NEVER, EVER shoot codeine. codeine NEEDS to be metabolized in the liver for it to even work. IV'ing codeine will give you pulmonary edema, facial swelling, and maybe death. plus there is tylenol in it which would mean you'd need to cold water extract it and filter it with a micron filter. you are not going to get high you are going to be miserable and sick if you try to IV codeine.

just swallow them!

SomniGod
09-27-2005, 06:30 PM
that's what I thought... there is another thread talkin bout this where I said the same thing. People really need to know this because thet other thread could be dangerous. i'm gonna search it out and quote your post PK.

~S~

SomniGod
09-27-2005, 06:35 PM
Right on.... you already got to it! PHEW!

Maybe I read wrong... but it looked like they were saying that you could cold extract and IV C........ that would be bad!

~S~

Ogre
09-27-2005, 07:36 PM
Never IV it. Ever.

Matty Fats 420
09-28-2005, 02:19 PM
thank you everyone for the info, im glad i ask here before trying to do something stupid myself. this site is such a great help. and thanks again!!

ontario_opiophile
09-29-2005, 03:54 AM
Yah. It's a very BAD idea to IV codeine!!! First, those pills you are talking about have tylenol (acetaminophen) in them. So, if you IV that your going to have problems. Second, codeine is not meant to be used intravenously (IV). Like Paregoric Kid said, you will get Pulmonary Edema and a bunch of other problems which are not nice. Codeine can never be used IV. It can be used IM and SC (subcutaneously). But then again. The pills you have contain tylenol (acetiminophen) so do not even try that. If you had an ampoule of codeine actually meant for injection in your muscle you could do inject it in your muscle. But you dont have one so dont even try! Sorry if i'm being a bit repetitive lol. I'm just ranting. I thought I should make it clear that IV, IM, or SC were not good routes of administration for tylenol 4's. The following is a list of pills or drugs you do SHOULD NEVER inject in your veins (IV), muscles (IM), under skin (SC) :

Darvocet, Darvon, Propoxyphene hcl., Propoxyphene Napsylate, Tramadol, Ultram, Ultracet, Tylenol 1,2,3 and 4, OTC codeine pills with acetaminophen, Percocet, Endocet, Roxicet, Vicodin, Lortab, Vicoprofen, Hydrocodone, Percodan.

Basically, you should never inject any pill that contains ACETAMINOPHEN (tylenol) , IBUPROFEN (advil) , or ASPIRIN (acetylsalicylic acid). The ones above are some, BUT NOT ALL, of the pills you shouldnt inject. Please use wisely. I know someone who died from injecting codeine phosphate.

rachamim18
09-29-2005, 10:49 AM
the initial poster saken if he/she could do a Cold Water Extract ont he pills in order to kake them safe for injection. First, your quantity of pills is not enough to do a Cold Water Extraction. Second, the whole idea behind that process was to create a simple, almost harmelss way for people to separate the components of those pills [and others just like them]. However, cold water only makes the the separation a majority, not complete. There are other solvents that will offer a complete separation but they are not "harmless" in thmeselves so you run into another problem.


Of course that ignores tha glaring truth thatothers have already correctly pointed out...that even if you were successful at complete separation of codeine and APAP, codeine is never safe for injection.

northernstar
07-15-2006, 02:58 AM
Yah. It's a very BAD idea to IV codeine!!! First, those pills you are talking about have tylenol (acetaminophen) in them. So, if you IV that your going to have problems. Second, codeine is not meant to be used intravenously (IV). Like Paregoric Kid said, you will get Pulmonary Edema and a bunch of other problems which are not nice. Codeine can never be used IV. It can be used IM and SC (subcutaneously). But then again. The pills you have contain tylenol (acetiminophen) so do not even try that. If you had an ampoule of codeine actually meant for injection in your muscle you could do inject it in your muscle. But you dont have one so dont even try! Sorry if i'm being a bit repetitive lol. I'm just ranting. I thought I should make it clear that IV, IM, or SC were not good routes of administration for tylenol 4's. The following is a list of pills or drugs you do SHOULD NEVER inject in your veins (IV), muscles (IM), under skin (SC) :

Darvocet, Darvon, Propoxyphene hcl., Propoxyphene Napsylate, Tramadol, Ultram, Ultracet, Tylenol 1,2,3 and 4, OTC codeine pills with acetaminophen, Percocet, Endocet, Roxicet, Vicodin, Lortab, Vicoprofen, Hydrocodone, Percodan.

Basically, you should never inject any pill that contains ACETAMINOPHEN (tylenol) , IBUPROFEN (advil) , or ASPIRIN (acetylsalicylic acid). The ones above are some, BUT NOT ALL, of the pills you shouldnt inject. Please use wisely. I know someone who died from injecting codeine phosphate.

ok i just got codiene phospates....no injecting. now some of the ones in the above list are oxycodone..which u can inject if you get rid of the tylenol right? and is the same true of propoxyphene? any help converting these to something bootable would be much appreciated.....such as oxycodone or morphine....

HistoryofMadness
07-15-2006, 01:10 PM
What about homebake heroin? That's a derivative of codeine, right?

SirDonkeyPunch
07-15-2006, 01:45 PM
homebake H is actually diacetylmorphine silly. sure it starts off as codeine, but the use pirirdin hydrochloride ( i think thats the chemical and by no means if u want to try it dont go by what im saying, look thru rhoduim) and another chloroform i beleive to make codeine into morphine. Then that morphine is combined with acetic anhydride to get that luscious heroin. Now if i remember correctly, samples were taken and there were still traces of codeine, acetylcodeine, and morphine still contained within this "Homebake" method.

and oxycodone wasnt in that list, only percocets and percodans and the like that are oxycodone COMBINED with tylenol and ibuprofen. if you try and inject those substances without using a micron filter and CWE your could lose your arm.... or whatever limb you choose to boot in.

HistoryofMadness
07-15-2006, 02:12 PM
homebake H is actually diacetylmorphine silly. sure it starts off as codeine, but the use pirirdin hydrochloride ( i think thats the chemical and by no means if u want to try it dont go by what im saying, look thru rhoduim) and another chloroform i beleive to make codeine into morphine.

Yes, that's what I'm saying!! Well, not really, I don't know that much about it. I just know its made from codeine, and mentioned it in case any of these folks who had access to codeine wanted to play chemist.