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surdali124
04-17-2007, 05:40 PM
has anyone ever potentiated with this before

surdali124
04-17-2007, 05:46 PM
ok i know this is a potentiator but what would be a good safe dose with some H

flipside
04-17-2007, 07:53 PM
Well Atarax is commonly used as an antihistamine or sometimes in children for anxiety.

My guess is it would do about what benadryl would do, mabey a little more. As for dose I'm sorry I have no idea. I'm sure someone else will though.

bronyraur
04-17-2007, 08:00 PM
Atarax is commonly combined with demerol for use as a pre-surgical pain reliever/sedative, so I would say that it'll potentiate alright.

As always, use caution when adding a potentiator to the mix.

Papa Verine
04-17-2007, 08:04 PM
I've used it in combination with opiates. I wouldn't exactly call it a potentiator. All it does for me is add extreme drowsiness to the opiate high. I don't like to be drowsy when I'm high on opiates. What's there to enjoy when you're asleep?

I threw the shit away.

surdali124
04-17-2007, 08:07 PM
whats a safe dose with some H i would be insuffulating both

flipside
04-17-2007, 09:13 PM
Atarax is commonly combined with demerol for use as a pre-surgical pain reliever/sedative, so I would say that it'll potentiate alright.

As always, use caution when adding a potentiator to the mix.

You're right Braun, I forgot theat hydrox was Vistaril for a moment there. Used mainly for it's sedative properties.


To the Op I understnd that you are anxious to get an answer to your ?? But it is not necessary to start another thread asking the same ?

If anyone has any experience with dosage I'm sure they'll respond.

Chemical_Boy
04-18-2007, 12:01 AM
I have used hydrox in conjunction with hydrocodone. Never felt anything from the hydroxyzine, even at higher doses.

Antihistamines don't make me drowsy though. . .

johnny27
05-08-2007, 11:59 PM
I found the absoulute best potentiator is cyclizine, i think its of the piperazine family, but has anti-histamine effects like hydroxyzine. Its amazing how it totaly increases the opiate buzz, particulary the euphoria without adding drowiness. After that script ran out, i really miss it, opiates are near as euphoric for me without the cyclizine. As far as i remember 100mg was plently with Poppy tea

Paregoric Kid
05-09-2007, 03:38 PM
it can work very well to potentiate opiates/opioids. one article, I think it used to be on cold-water-world, said it increased methadone by 50%. I don't know how true that is but it does potentiate to some degree. it definitely increases sedation/the nod. it is prescribed as an antihistamine, a sedative, and even prescribed as an anxiolytic. if you take it before you take an opiate/opioid it may act as an enzyme inhibitor to a certain degree, similar to tagamet and grapefruit juice.

DCBA
12-30-2007, 05:50 PM
whats a safe dose with some H i would be insuffulating both

Start low, i can feel potentiation from doses as small as 25mg, but i generally take 50, 75 or 100mgs.
The higher the dosage the more sedation will be imposed by the atarax. Use 25 to 50mgs. And remember that there are no safe dosages, but they are pretty safe...

If used daily the potentiation will be less noted (for swim at least).

resorcinol
12-30-2007, 06:13 PM
I found the absoulute best potentiator is cyclizine, i think its of the piperazine family, but has anti-histamine effects like hydroxyzine. Its amazing how it totaly increases the opiate buzz, particulary the euphoria without adding drowiness. After that script ran out, i really miss it, opiates are near as euphoric for me without the cyclizine. As far as i remember 100mg was plently with Poppy tea

cyclizine works so much better than other antihistamines for some unknown reason. cyclizine IVed with H or another strong opioid increases the euphoric rush to new heights. orally it potentiates the euphoria noticeably, not just the sedation.

other antihistamines are nowhere near as good and really only add to the nod.

i wonder what, pharmacologically, makes cyclizine so great for adding to opioid euphoria...

DCBA
12-30-2007, 06:17 PM
cyclizine works so much better than other antihistamines for some unknown reason. cyclizine IVed with H or another strong opioid increases the euphoric rush to new heights. orally it potentiates the euphoria noticeably, not just the sedation.

other antihistamines are nowhere near as good and really only add to the nod.

i wonder what, pharmacologically, makes cyclizine so great for adding to opioid euphoria...


Have you ever tried hydroxyzine?

pharmacologically:: Histamine is pretty much a rush killer, so antihistamine are rush feeders lol

Seedy
12-30-2007, 06:29 PM
I found the absoulute best potentiator is cyclizine, i think its of the piperazine family, but has anti-histamine effects like hydroxyzine. Its amazing how it totaly increases the opiate buzz, particulary the euphoria without adding drowiness. After that script ran out, i really miss it, opiates are near as euphoric for me without the cyclizine. As far as i remember 100mg was plently with Poppy tea

Damn you beat me to it. IMO other antihistamines are pretty worthless potentiators unless you get the itch. I don't need any extra sedation. Cyclizine on the other hand, wish I had some now!

SpecialGuy69
12-30-2007, 06:42 PM
worst thread ever.

The guy who started it did the typical annoying new guy thing of posting like 3 threads because he was impatient to get the info he needed (probably didn't utmfse either)

Then, it gets bumped after 7 months.

NEXT!

mikells43
12-30-2007, 08:58 PM
demerol visterl is used for post opp, but more often its used in the ers for demerol buttshots, they say that the visteral helps with the burning of the muscle after the injection and during. also they say it is for the nausia caused by opiates, i have never found it to potentuate any opiate at all. please dont snort visteral. ive gotten the combo tons of times, and ive gotten straight visteral and it doesn't affect me lol.

roxi*stardust
12-31-2007, 12:15 PM
Guys this thread is from 7+ months ago. The people you are responding to have had their question answered months ago. Hell they might not even visit the site anymore. Please check the date located on the top left corner before responding to a thread. If you have a question that isn't answered in an old thread after searching, just start a new one. Thanks. Now I'm closing this one.